[aparneioninny]

Hi everyone,

I'm 15 years old boy from Istanbul, Turkey. I want to start Kenjutsu Training but I just know that It's a Art with Wooden Swords. First of all, I had surgery operation for my spine and now there are titaniums. When i press to my back with my fingers it gives a little bit pain. My question is that ;

If I want to start Kenjutsu Training, Is there any risk like that stones could shot to my back? Or Could my enemy throw me to the floor?

In shortly Is there anything like throwing and shooting with swords to back? Is it painful like Karate-do, Ninjutsu or Teakwando?

Please help to me. I want to start it, because If i could I could be successful.

Thank you
Kevin.

[Reafnartefs]

Hi Kevin

Most kenjutsu doesn't involve throwing of falling over. The styles which I have seen rely on keeping a good posture to maintain good mobility and stability. The majority of schools are kata/form-based so there is no free fighting and you should be able to develop at a rate which suits you and any physical restrictions you might have.

However it is important to be discerning as to which school you join. There are good and not so good instructors out there so if you have a choice look around and decide which suits you. If you wish to have the members of this forum check out some websites for you for legitimacy then by all means post them.

Take care and good luck

[horoshevapola]

Here are some links to help you grasp what Kenjutsu is, where it came from, and what the training consists of. This may help save us from questions that make this little sense?

http://www.daito-ryu.com/en/pag4.htm
Daito’s School Kenjutsu is divided into 4 sections.....

http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gc1091/l5...-iaijutsu.html
Essays: Iaijutsu.....

http://www.ittendojo.org/articles/phil-9.htm
Lessons from the Gorin-no-Sho by Robert Wolfe......

http://www.samuraisports.com/goshindo/kenjutsu.html
Kenjutsu, kendo and chanbara are combative disciplines that are recognized as the art and the sport of the sword through technique .....

Good reading.

[inofindy]

Thank you everyone, but now I have another question because of Andy_Watson. You said school is important. Andy_Watson are there good schools in England? And Does it costs much?

And I'm 15 years old, Could i start training when I'm 17-18, or is it too late?
And Kenji Thank you for infos.

Thank you.

[rammossyAcron]

I'd say speak to your doctor.
And you are never too old

[Buyemae]

Well the first thing is there are no kenjutsu dojos in Turkey. You may want to practice kendo instead. You can come and watch a training session if you want.

Also if there is a kenjutsu dojo is istanbul I think you can find some information on that subject if you speak to people in these dojos.

http://www.istanbulkenshikai.com (anatolian side)
http://www.istanbulkendo.com (european side)
ps: there is another club called u-shin kendo in istanbul but no luck in finding further info.

[lollypopz]

Well the first thing is there are no kenjutsu dojos in Turkey. You may want to practice kendo instead. You can come and watch a training session if you want.

Also if there is a kenjutsu dojo is istanbul I think you can find some information on that subject if you speak to people in these dojos.

http://www.istanbulkenshikai.com (anatolian side)
http://www.istanbulkendo.com (european side)
ps: there is another club called u-shin kendo in istanbul but no luck in finding further info.

Not to cause descention, but I do believe he asked if there were any Kenjutsu schools in England.

[NKUDirectory]

I think there is a big difference in risk between kendo vs. kenjutsu/koryu/iaido. There is a definite risk of being knocked over and falling in kendo, since there is sparring involved. Kenjutsu, koryu, and iaido has little to no sparring that I am aware of and thus you don't have that risk. (I'm not an expert in those fields though. Others may have better idea) There should be no intentional hits to the back. At most a push on your butt in kendo to keep you moving.

Are you in England or Turkey? There are definitely reputable dojos in England. There are many people on this forum that practice there that can advise you where to go.

[O25YtQnn]

airBender I recommend against kendo unless you get a doctor's clearance as it is a very active sport with the chance for strong collision between the players. People occasionally get knocked to the floor. There is usually no hitting to the back though.

You would be better off studying some sort of koryu (old school swordsmanship), which is what you may be thinking of when you say kenjutsu. Depending on where you are in England there are some good schools there. You can start by looking for iaido schools here. There are a number of UK members here at KW who can help you, hopefully they will chime in.

17 or 18 is definitely not too old to start. Many people start much older than that.

[dhrishiasv]

Hi all,

My doctor said that I can do all sport including Skiing. But if i fall down when doing it it won't be good i think.

I'm living in Istanbul, Turkey now but next year I'll have a chance to live in England for a year and maybe little bit more.
Also If i could pass exams, I'll live in England 3 years later. Compeletely.I'm originally Irish/Turkish but i was born in England but now I'm in Turkey

And let me ask a question now because I'm really confused,
What's the main difference between Kendo and Kenjutsu?
Which one is less dangerous but more enjoyable?

Thanks

[MwhwF6bp]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:K...rget_areas.png

As i see from here Kendo is less dangerous. (Wikipedia said these are Target Areas of Kendo )

Well now searching Kenjutsu's target areas too

[GtmFeqJJ]

The main difference (and here I'm making a very broad generalisation) is that kendoka train largely by full contact sparring, whereas in koryu (kenjutsu) you train largely by no contact two-man kata.

If your doctor has given you the OK for skiing, kendo should be fine.

[Mabeavyledlib]

OK all. I talked with boy next door and I'll watch a Kendo Training and i'll start or not. Thank you all.
Yes you are right Neil

[soipguibbom]

Kenji_71_06,
As you have no knowledge, please refrain from handing out advice. All four of the links you gave are questionable in one way or another, one of them is about playing with boffers, and another is about a role playing game!

Please stop giving out erroneous advice. There are plenty of people on this forum that actually know what the heck they're talking about.

[Unlinozistimi]

Kenji_71_06,
As you have no knowledge, please refrain from handing out advice. All four of the links you gave are questionable in one way or another, one of them is about playing with boffers, and another is about a role playing game!

Please stop giving out erroneous advice. There are plenty of people on this forum that actually know what the heck they're talking about.

I say let's hear from the experts, all Kenjutsu Sensei's step forward and be heard........... waiting........... no, ok some of the items in the links are suspect, true. There are some good links in the last one though including some contacts in the Budo the airbender asked about. God, some of you are such judgemental twats, I applaud all of you who actually tried to help the kid find his answers instead of just taking the opportunity to belittle others.

[CaseyFronczek]

Met, what you are forgetting is how JSA are seen as 'cool' by kids. Just go look on YouTube. We get more wannabees and idiots come here than genuine guys looking for instruction. When someone turns up and says 'I am at X and I want to find X dojo' people are falling over themselves to help.

When someone acts the arse or claims to be something they're not they tend to get ripped a new one. Simple...

[b91ZmxzX]

I say let's hear from the experts, all Kenjutsu Sensei's step forward and be heard........... waiting........... no, ok some of the items in the links are suspect, true. There are some good links in the last one though including some contacts in the Budo the airbender asked about. God, some of you are such judgemental twats, I applaud all of you who actually tried to help the kid find his answers instead of just taking the opportunity to belittle others.

From what i can gather from his dojo home page, Mr.Smith IS a sensei.
Maybe you should take your foot out of your mouth, sit down, shut up, and listen a little. But hey, if you want to look like a total nob, go right a head. I need a good laugh at work.

[Poreponko]

I say let's hear from the experts, all Kenjutsu Sensei's step forward and be heard........... waiting........... no, ok some of the items in the links are suspect, true. What, you didn't read my earlier post?
There are some good links in the last one though including some contacts in the Budo the airbender asked about. There are only four out of the fifteen links on that page that are even remotely helpful. Some of the rest of them are total crap.
God, some of you are such judgemental twats, I applaud all of you who actually tried to help the kid find his answers instead of just taking the opportunity to belittle others. Not taking the opportunity to belittle others, merely trying to let people know that acting like you know what you're talking about is not helpful! There are plenty of people on this forum and others that have knowledge and are willing to share it. Of course, they can be pretty hard to hear sometimes because of all the internet experts that think they have a clue. Get the hint?

[mrPronmaker]

There are only four out of the fifteen links on that page that are even remotely helpful. Some of the rest of them are total crap.

Then don't you think it would serve more purpose to point out the useful links rather than quibble?

Not taking the opportunity to belittle others, merely trying to let people know that acting like you know what you're talking about is not helpful! There are plenty of people on this forum and others that have knowledge and are willing to share it.

You admit that 4 of the links could be considered "remotely helpful" yet rather than point them out, you chose instead to chastete someone at least trying to give a base of comparison for their lack of knowledge on the budo.

Get the hint?

Nope just Shinu Kikai O Motomo.

[Lt_Apple]

From what i can gather from his dojo home page, Mr.Smith IS a sensei.
Maybe you should take your foot out of your mouth, sit down, shut up, and listen a little. But hey, if you want to look like a total nob, go right a head. I need a good laugh at work.

Put the bong down and step away from the lighter slowly, this is for your own good.

Perhaps you should read more than profiles, try the posts. Assuming Mr. Smith is a Sensei of Kenjutsu, my point still stands, he didn't offer any constructive advice, or assistance in helping understand the difference between the budo's or help direct the Airbender to any schools. All he did was smugly belittle a newbie's attempt to be helpful. Maybe you should consider following your badly placed advice. But hey, take your laughes where you can, simple minds, simple pleasures.