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Old 11-24-2006, 09:29 PM   #1
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Default Another 1000 suburi for 1000 days journal
Well, i've read about this in the past, that 1000 suburi for 1000 days will bring you some insight and understanding into the art of the sword. 1000 suburi isnt exceptionally hard or anything, so starting tonight i'm going to try for it. There's nothing to lose right??

anywho, here's the link
http://xxssaurabixx.livejournal.com/

If some of you guys could comment and show your support that'd be nice ^__^
as of 12:28 november 24th i havent posted yet, i still have about 800 suburi to go, but i'll post before I go to bed, thanks ^_^
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:47 PM   #2
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alright, i've posted as of 1:47, i'd appreciate some support ^_^
thanks guys
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Old 11-25-2006, 12:30 AM   #3
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good luck in getting to 1000
im sure you will do fine
then 5000 will be a snip
surely its quality of suburi not quantity that counts though?
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Old 11-25-2006, 01:09 AM   #4
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Good luck! Sometimes I find it very hard to find some time and place to do it... I hope to start doing from jodan soon and maybe I should also start doing suburis. Lots of them... Katate...
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Old 11-25-2006, 02:08 AM   #5
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Hey Muko,

Whats your level/grade in kendo.
1000 suburi a day could be damaging if your not nidan/sandan and above.
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Old 11-25-2006, 02:17 AM   #6
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If you're still pretty new at kendo, this would be a baaaaad idea. you could develop bad habbits that get rooted in pretty deep.
Dont just do your 1000 to do a thousand. do every single suburi focusing on technique and footwork. be critical about yourself and try to improve with every swing. doing it on your knees, I dunno. you would miss half the exercise. no way of practicing your footwork/swing timing etc.

btw what kind of suburis are you doing?
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Old 11-25-2006, 04:30 AM   #7
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I have to agree with everyone else here, if you are new to Kendo then this would be a very bad idea as it would just strengthen bad technique.

This would have to be done under supervision of your sensei who can correct any faults. Music/tv is also not good as it will distract you from the reason you are doing it in the first place - reinforcing good technique.

Ideally this should be done in the dojo with correct technique being used and correct instruction.

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Old 11-25-2006, 04:46 AM   #8
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and then at the end of all that instruction and practice you will be nearly unstoppabubble
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:01 AM   #9
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I agree with the concerns voiced by others. Talk to your sensei and get his/her perspective.

In addition, from what I read on your site you are doing the suburi with two shinais tied toguether. Why the extra weight? 1000 on a daily basis for 1000 days is already quite a challenge.

A colleague of mine started something similar with a suburito. After a few months of 1000 per day he partially tore a tendon/muscle in his elbow and has had problems ever since. Google "Tanren Bo" by Taylor sensei for a description of various workouts you can ease into and their challenges.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:24 AM   #10
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wow, I didnt think so many people would reply, thanks ^__^
Thank you for all the information and concerns i'm taking them very seriously and I see your points. The only reason I did it in seiza was it was about 1 in the morning and I cant exactly go outside and do it, and there isnt enough head room for me to do it standing. I'll do it earlier today and go outside.
Anywho, to answer Bobdonny's question, I practice Kumdo and I just earned my green belt, I know kendo doesnt have a belt system so I dont know what the equivalent of a green belt is. I've been doing this for about 6 months, so yeah, i'm still very much a noob.
I usually do suburi in the dojang as I spend alot of time there, 2 to 3 hours monday through friday, i'm usually the last to leave, so I'll be doing most of it under supervision, there just isnt any more class this week due to thanksgiving. Since I am there so much, if I developed any bad habits wouldnt they be noticed before they could be deeply rooted?
Anywho, i've gotten alot just since last night thanks to all of you. No music, no distractions, no two shinai (I figured more weight more work-out, I didnt think it would be damaging, thanks for telling me), and to focus on every swing. Thanks alot ^__^

Oh! For SmellsLikeBogu's question, I would tell you what kind of suburi I'm doing, but, since I practice kumdo I dont have a strong knowledge of kendo vocab, so I dont know what kind of suburi there are, i'd appreciate it if you'd tell me though ^_^
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:51 AM   #11
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What is the point?

do a 1000 for a 1000 days....and then?

I once came to this site and read about this 1000 days stuff and went to the link and read of this long path this guy took to do the 1000/1000...

right away the story of this guy was not about kendo, it was about himself..
The fact is that this is a personal story I was reading about the challenge he had put to himself.

did it make him better at kendo?....I dont know. I saw in his writing that he had changed from the beginning to the end.
There was a lot of frustration in his words that he wrote about himself some days.
Perhaps that is good, perhaps that is not so good, again I dont know.

I just keep thinking that if the 1000/1000 was just about kendo that more guys would do it just to get better.
But it's not really about kendo at all.

It's about personal challenges, the ability of the body to match the spirit.

If someone I knew started this path, Im not sure I would be calling over to their house for a while. I would not want to get in the way or break the count.


There also was this one comment I read on this forum.
A guy was talking about his finishing the 1000/1000 and another person said that he had told his sensei the story and the sensei had responded, " Not enough"

I guess when a person starts to do this task, they always have to keep in mind that at the end, the victory is an inner-personal one.

I wish you good luck, and I will watch for updates with interest...
But, are we sure this road leads anywhere we want to end up at?
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:55 AM   #12
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At your level, 1000 suburi is just going to make your arms tired. Try doing just 100, but make each one as perfect as you can.
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Old 11-25-2006, 11:17 AM   #13
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What are suburis? Anyone know the Korean term for it? Is it that one excericse where you "jump" (I cant think of a better word) back and forth while doing men? 1000 of those seems like a really hard thing to do.
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Old 11-25-2006, 01:46 PM   #14
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against the contrary, i say do 1000 suburi everyday. Regardless of what level you are, if you are in the kyu grade, your arms will get tired and that means you are using certain parts of your arms too much. doing 1000 of them as many as you can at one time, (provide with rest in between "sets") you will get rid of your bad habbits and in time you will learn the proper way of striking.

if someone were to tell you when you take your first step as an infant .."don't walk just yet, because u might develop bad habbit" are you going to listen to that shit? Not me. so good luck,
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Old 11-25-2006, 02:42 PM   #15
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well, y'know, i hear what you all are saying about it being a bad idea since i'm so early on, but, i've already made this commitment to myself and i'm not going to quit after one day. I'm not too worried about bad habits since i'm literally in class everyday, so if I develope a bad habit it will be caught before there's time for it to become a major defect in my form.
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:19 PM   #16
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against the contrary, i say do 1000 suburi everyday. Regardless of what level you are, if you are in the kyu grade, your arms will get tired and that means you are using certain parts of your arms too much. doing 1000 of them as many as you can at one time, (provide with rest in between "sets") you will get rid of your bad habbits and in time you will learn the proper way of striking.

if someone were to tell you when you take your first step as an infant .."don't walk just yet, because u might develop bad habbit" are you going to listen to that shit? Not me. so good luck,
Yeah, just don't ask the infant to walk a mile a day from day one.. Bad habbit or not, he may not be able to walk at all soon..
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:23 PM   #17
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well, y'know, i hear what you all are saying about it being a bad idea since i'm so early on, but, i've already made this commitment to myself and i'm not going to quit after one day. I'm not too worried about bad habits since i'm literally in class everyday, so if I develope a bad habit it will be caught before there's time for it to become a major defect in my form.
If you go to dojang everyday,you don't have to worry about the bad habbit. But you still need to worry about the injury it might cause.. Elbow and Shoulder injuries are typically very complicated and hard to recover. Listen to your body when it start screaming.. You might be able to develop strong mind from 1000/1000 but the physical body has its limits..
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:43 PM   #18
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sashiburi dana! karaken,
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:55 PM   #19
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Hallo Mukdo Centered, as I am new to these forum maybe is not good idea to giving advices. But, from the New year 2005. next 204 days I was doing 1000 suburi per day. So I would like to share some of my experience with you.
It would be too long to explain in details and reasons, so just few thing.
Do not do suburi with suborito untill you really develop good technique and muscles. Very important is ashi sabaki, and tai sabaki. Go very slowly, with 100x than 10 - 20 sec rest/stretch your arms and continue. It is great advice from Mr. Neil, but alsow from Masahiro in the way that you should keep on. These practice is not much about technique as is about kendo commitment.What you can technically achieve is difficul to predict. It depends do you have a sensei who can correct you or not. For sure you will improve your technique but only after you start and finnish your suburi with focus on suburi and not on what you will do after practice. I guess that after two months you will develop such level of concentration wich will allow you to be focused all 45-60 minutes to suburi.

The fact that you practice even 100 suburi every day is great commitment in todays society. I finnish my practice after 204 days because of so called "tennis elbow" injury. I did too much haya suburi with suburi bokuto. Now aftter 4 months I still have pain in my elbow but thanks to iaido practice and pigs fat-wich is great to treat such injuries, I am better. I tried lot of expencive gels and greases but nothing has worked like pigs fat-ehehehe.
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Old 11-25-2006, 04:26 PM   #20
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O.o.....uhm...thanks...er...pig fat...yeah....i'll remember that....
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