[iodigmaFemZem]

*Edit*
Ignatz in his infinite wisdom beat me to that last answer.

[dr-eavealer]

Kenzen

pls read my post further up on page one i make much the same argument as you without so much detail
i was stating that japanese/american personnel were probably not permitted in a combat role in the Pacific conflict

[skiboyx]

I'm not entirely sure why it pissed me off, but this is the message that someone sent me, "Get over it. Think about what the Japanese have done before you start pointing fingers you wanker."

[Sniliabiz]

I'm not entirely sure why it pissed me off, but this is the message that someone sent me, "Get over it. Think about what the Japanese have done before you start pointing fingers you wanker."

are you going to change their attitude by being pissed off ?
not very likely, all the logical arguments in the world will not change the past or an entrenched attitude
why waste your energy on something you cannot change ?

[Ettiominiw]

^^
Why didn't they send citizens of German decent to concentration camps during the war?

Because of deep DEEP DEEEEEEEP xenophobia (which is a kind way of saying; the worst sort of racism that ever existed) over most of the populace which was not white or anglo of origin.

As my father put it, It was sort of a mass hysteria which was gripping the nation.
Heck, Life Magazine, in 1942 printed an article on how to tell Japanese from Chinese via facial features, skin color, bone structure, etc.
It was like a page right out of Josef Mengele's handbook.
Sad indeed.


~But I also understand that some German-Americans also suffered abuse on differing scales due to their heritage.

Of course, America has learned from her past mistakes....

[viawbambutt]

Because of deep DEEP DEEEEEEEP xenophobia (which is a kind way of saying; the worst sort of racism that ever existed) over most of the populace which was not white or anglo of origin.

As my father put it, It was sort of a mass hysteria which was gripping the nation.
Heck, Life Magazine, in 1942 printed an article on how to tell Japanese from Chinese via facial features, skin color, bone structure, etc.
It was like a page right out of Josef Mengele's handbook.
Sad indeed.


~But I also understand that some German-Americans also suffered abuse on differing scales due to their heritage.

Of course, America has learned from her past mistakes....

I already knew that

As far as my even bothering to respond, its not like I have anything better to do at the moment. The semester is almost over, and I only have two finals left.

[SobiquYo]

The issue was, and still is, often one which can stir many types of emotions.

[melissa]

I already knew that

As far as my even bothering to respond, its not like I have anything better to do at the moment. The semester is almost over, and I only have two finals left.

fair enough , what are you studying ?

[spoddersedpn]

Well right now I'm at a CC, in an IT program, once I get my associates I'll be up at the university level, probably majoring in accounting...

[drgshmcm]

As Mr. Iggy points out, the 442nd is the unit you're referring to, though they were United States Army, not Marines. They fought in Europe with great distinction and did their name and heritage proud.

[kucheravka]

^^
Also forgot to mention that a lot of the folks sent to the concentration camps were US citizens, born and raised in the US, joined the army and fought just as much for the US as anyone else, so your whole thing about the crap Japan did during the war is bullshit. Most of em had pretty much nothing to do with Japan. Why didn't they send citizens of German decent to concentration camps during the war? Didn't Germany do some pretty bad stuff to? Like oh um...I dunno...trying to kill all the Jews maybe You're full of shit, etc. etc. .

The use of the phrase "concentration camp" is is not accurate since (as you well know but probably choose to ignore) there were no mass-killings, euthenasia, etc. as there were in the "real" concentration camps found in Germany.

Yes, shame on America for over-reacting but, given the nature of the times and the general lack of cultural awareness, it could have been worse.

[TeemFilla]

The use of the phrase "concentration camp" is is not accurate since (as you well know but probably choose to ignore) there were no mass-killings, euthenasia, etc. as there were in the "real" concentration camps found in Germany.

I must respectfully disagree.

Concentration camp
a camp where persons (as prisoners of war, political prisoners, or refugees) are detained or confined.

If one refers to the term having to do with it's negative association with Nazi concentration camps of the same name, and then if the aim is to equate acts committed at such a place, then I would agree in that certainly they were not on the same scale.
However, It is wise to make no mistake, at places such as the 27 camps run by the U.S. Government at the time, people died; were abused, and in some cases, tortured, or killed.

So emotionally, I agree with that assessment of the two differing, however semantically, I do not.
They are what they are. What is then done to the groups of people who are concentrated together is another matter entirely.

In the case of America, it is an issue which touches us all even today, and it reminds us how easily our liberties can be stripped away.
Just like it's happening now. But that's perhaps another thread and another forum.

[berdyanskdotsu]

So how many people were killed or tortured at these US "concentration camps?"

[XangadsX]

So how many people were killed or tortured at these US "concentration camps?"

Out of decorum,
I respectfully decline to go there with you.

[IvJlNwum]

off on a tangent who do you think invented the "concentration camp"?

[Lilji]

Out of decorum,
I respectfully decline to go there with you.

Thought so.

[SmuffNuSMaxqh]

off on a tangent who do you think invented the "concentration camp"?

The British did. They were first used by them in the war against the Afrikaners.

[Imagimifouxum]

Concentration camp- - - -Internment Camp- - - -pretty much depends upon which side of the fence you are on.

[haittiweerved]

Well as far as people getting killed at the camps there were at least two that my grandfather mentioned...

[HedoShoodovex]

correct,
i aint gonna argue with you over the rights and wrongs of history either,
but prehaps we brits should not take such a moral tone over human rights issues today cos we were very guilty of the same violations in the past, as are most "superpowers" ask the american indians or the survivors of the pogroms in prewar (stalinast) russia