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Sword Secrets of the Samurai
I found this DVD for sale on

http://www.samuraisecrets.com/

and wonder if its all true what it claims to be.

Some of the wording has sent alarm bells ringing and warns me that it may not be what it makes out to be. AU$ 160 is a lot of money to pay for a DVD.

Anyone ever heard of this samurai sword master Phillip Hilzinger?

I can't see any credentials, sword style or afiliations with any known sword master or sword style. All I can make out is that he is the very best there is in Japanese swordsmanship.

Can anyone help?
Mick Chan

P. T. Barnum was right.

[RgtrsKfR]

The Movie.

I was in a cutlery shop near my school checking out bokken and it was playing on the in-store t.v. set.

[ManHolDenPoker]

Sword Secrets of the Samurai
I found this DVD for sale on

http://www.samuraisecrets.com/

and wonder if its all true what it claims to be.

Some of the wording has sent alarm bells ringing and warns me that it may not be what it makes out to be. AU$ 160 is a lot of money to pay for a DVD.

Anyone ever heard of this samurai sword master Phillip Hilzinger?

I can't see any credentials, sword style or afiliations with any known sword master or sword style. All I can make out is that he is the very best there is in Japanese swordsmanship.

Can anyone help?
Mick Chan

[Eunatis]

Three of us put some money together and bought the dvd.

Never have seen soooo much crap in my life. He can’t even tie his hakama properly.

All the sword kata he performs are made up of some other styles and all his moves are jerky and just don’t make much sense.

He mostly does tameshigiri, nothing to do with secret samurai swordsmanship. I think we will ask for our money back as we think his advertising is false and misleads people.

I think he should be reported to Fair Trading or investigated on e budo maybe?

Thanks for letting us know, and yes, we should let ebudo knows about this so no one spent $60 for false information... which is worse than nothing.

[Essefsbyday]

I think we will ask for our money back as we think his advertising is false and misleads people.
You'll have problems with that. It's not as if there is a regulatory commission for Samurai Sword Techniques.

I think he should be reported to Fair Trading or investigated on e budo maybe?
He has already been discussed on e-budo. I told a certain poster there that it was easy to see that it was crap just from their advert. She insisted on buying it anyway, and then wrote a short review saying it was crap. I told her that before she spent her money on it, but some people insist on learning the hard way. It's pretty obvious to someone with any real training that he is fairly clueless and is just interested in being a big man while making some money. However, those with any real training wouldn't be interested in purchasing this DVD set to begin with. Further, if someone is that interested in learning Japanese swordsmanship from a DVD set, a crappy set will serve them just as well as a great one. You cannot learn any of the Japanese sword arts from videos, whether it be kendo, iaido, or kenjutsu. It takes a qualified instructor to correct and train you in the nuances of the art. If you try and learn from a DVD set, you'll be crappy anyway, so what difference does it make if the DVD set itself is crappy or not?

Just my opinions based on my experiences. Others may vary.

[Zvmwissq]

Wouldn't just the fact that they aren't even stating which swordmasters he has been training with bring up enough suspicion?

I think that when you would have trained for 45 years you would be mentioning with which masters you have trained and which styles and which degrees you would have in any kinda martial art.


Just my vision of this all

[Corryikilelet]

Check out e-budo on

http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthre...8&page=2&pp=15

Its a review of the samurai dvd by Hilzinger.
I have seen his full page ad in Blitz claiming to be the best there is.
Who trained that guy and where does he come from? Any one out there to enlighten us?

[xanax-buy-online.com]

Sword Secrets of the Samurai
I found this DVD for sale on

http://www.samuraisecrets.com/

and wonder if its all true what it claims to be.

Some of the wording has sent alarm bells ringing and warns me that it may not be what it makes out to be. AU$ 160 is a lot of money to pay for a DVD.

Anyone ever heard of this samurai sword master Phillip Hilzinger?

I can't see any credentials, sword style or afiliations with any known sword master or sword style. All I can make out is that he is the very best there is in Japanese swordsmanship.

Can anyone help?
Mick Chan

It already sounds like cliche that a white man claims to be samurai master which I can only assume that he studied a lot in Japan to be one. But to claim as a samurai master that almost no Japanese claimed to be samurai master... I dunno... if he can cut a bamboo stick 5 times and they only fall after 3 seconds after cutting it, I'll say he's a master, heheh

[eladiopsislab]

Need an RB to buy it and tell us what it's like...

[zU8KbeIU]

The thing that looks weird about it is that it is real. It is not Kendo, it is not Iaido it is kenjutsu. It doesn't have to look pretty- it is the art of killing with a sword as quickly and most efficiently as possible.
It is not censored and watered-down as many arts are today. That is why it is called 'Sword Secrets of the Samurai'. Because it is EXACTLY as the samurai were- the one's who survived at least. It has not been updated or modernised.
If you honestly believe you know better than him, then talk to him for 5 minutes and you'll soon witness the immense knowledge behind his blade- the kind of knowledge that makes a complete swordsman instead of merely an imitator. If you can debate with him and win- good on ya, you'll be the first.
At the very least- watch the DVD instead of making stupid remarks about the cover and track listings, remarks I might add: do nothing for your own collective credibility.

[Vcwdldva]

So it's in the USA already?



Good marketing!

[ForumMasta]

hes not to be trusted

[Arr34ston]

You might be able to get more information if you were to email him directly. If he claims to be such a master, then he shouldn't have much hesitation to answer any of your questions.

I don't know about the exchange rate or anything, but $160 for ONE DVD is too much. I've seen anime collections with 10 DVDs of 100 episodes and several movies and other miscellaneous information cost less than that. If it's not for the cost of it, it would be that I have no idea who this person is.

One thing that turns me off is the self-promotion of being a "master" at something. I could see it as being a certain skill like games, sports, or other activities, but saying that about martial arts raises red flags for me.

[xIuvyAuT]

Galactica ROCKS !!

And so do ending credits !!


LoL

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At the very least- watch the DVD instead of making stupid remarks about the cover and track listings, remarks I might add: do nothing for your own collective credibility.

Because some people DID watch the DVD, and they want their money back. Why do you think that? If he charged $20 bucks I might have bought it and watch it and wrote a crap review for it, but $60 bucks, I'll write one crap review and not buy it.

[drugsprevi]

Mr. Hilzinger learnt his kenjutsu along with several other weapon and empty-hand arts in Japan, and for political reasons his instructors do not want to known. His style has been proven and perfected by over 800 years of war. The origins are secret because to teach one's ways to those outside the clan was exposing the clan to attack and destruction. Those who survived were those which didn't shoot their mouths off.

I'm only a student of Budokai Ryu, if Mr. Hilzinger wishes to say more he will. Blitz Martial Arts magazine has heard his story and seen his kenjutsu- and are backing him 100%. He has written several articles for them which should be published in the very near future. He is a big believer in truth- so he tells things how they are.

To make a DVD like this costs many thousands of dollars. So to try and palm it off for $20 is utter stupidity, and although it is expensive- this information cannot be found anywhere else. The others who know it do not teach it. The DVD provides the basic physical movements of the style. With personalised instruction- someone could become a swordsman in 25 years. (By swordsman I mean a proficient user of a live blade with proven skills in cutting.)
I personally studied japanese swordcraft for 10 years, but after talking to Mr. Hilzinger for 10 minutes, it turned everything I thought I knew on it's head. Then a two minute demonstration with his blade backed up his words. So I believe him entirely, which is why I wanted to join his kenjutsu class. I was lucky enough to get in. Mr. Hilzinger only takes 2 classes of 12 and selects his students carefully.

You're all welcome to believe what you want. But if you have the choice to communicate with him and learn the truth of the matter; or sit back comfortably and slander him without trying to learn anything about it- and you choose the later: it honestly doesn't say much for your character as a martial artist.

[ProomoSam]

at least they put the credits on a different disc so you dont have to watch them.

that may just be worth the 160$ in itself...

[retTreftowhexm]

What's stopping anyone here (who has an once of kenjutsu experience) from doing the same? Nothing. Why aren't we doing it? We don't have the balls to do a DVD of traditional weapons practice without being able to tell people where the techniques came from.

that's actually not a bad idea.. super secret kendo waza.. so secret and rare that no one else has even heard of them.. revealed in this special edition DVD.. burn copies on my comp.. some photoshop cover art.. throw it up on e-bay and comic book shops next to the anime.. I could cut the local ninjas in on the action and have a special "secrets of the urban ninja" bonus disk

" I'm sorry sir/miss .. you opened it and therefore we cannot refund your money. "

new bogu here I come !

[Ygd2qr8k]

I've seen the movie (not the whole thing, though), and Hilzenger seems to at least be passibly educated. Still, if it's $160 and you see flags going up in your head*, trust the flags.
~~~~~~Obukan_dude~~~~~~
* (not from remembering your 2-0 loss in the last shiai you were in) 8^)

How did you manage that?

[CorpoRasion]

yes but you are missing the point.. like it says on the cover it's a 3 1/2 hour CLASSIC .. what does the rest have to do with anything? This is gonna be a hot collectable in a few years after the gold edition is released and the original is discontinued.