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**shodulsilfeli** · 10-15-2007, 11:32 AM

Does anyone know much about Haga Sensei of the Haga school of Kendo. I know that it is pre-war(?) kendo and I was wondering, from a regular kendo practitioner what exactly this might mean as far as technique and training differences.

**quorceopporce** · 10-15-2007, 04:09 PM

Does anyone know much about Haga Sensei of the Haga school of Kendo. I know that it is pre-war(?) kendo and I was wondering, from a regular kendo practitioner what exactly this might mean as far as technique and training differences.

I just tried to research it, but with such little info, I couldn't find what I wanted. Do you have his full name? I never have heard of Haga-sensei before. By school of kendo, do you mean a dojo by that name or, just his style?

Thanks.

Now you got me interested.

Kaoru

**SarSerceSaice** · 10-15-2007, 04:49 PM

I never have heard of Haga-sensei before.

Musnt be legit then.

**tpdirorg** · 10-15-2007, 05:05 PM

The only Haga sensei I have heard much about is Tadatoshi Haga sensei who is (was?) hachidan hanshi in both iaido and kendo. I'm not sure he is still alive or not.

**U5pz6B71** · 10-15-2007, 05:13 PM

I beleive he was at Shidogakuin NY dojo in 2004 for their 20th anniv. taikai as shinpan-cho. Any shidogakuin members know?

**Elaltergephah** · 10-15-2007, 05:27 PM

Haga-sensei is still with us, last I heard.

**isopsmypovA** · 10-15-2007, 05:44 PM

For everyones records:

http://haga-dojo.operacity.com/

and

http://www.hagaha-kendou.com/

Some nice ashibarai pics on 2nd site.

**EnvellFen** · 10-15-2007, 05:52 PM

Spoke with Shioiri-sensei a couple of months ago, and asked about Haga-sensei (Tadatoshi Haga). Reply was that he passed away a couple of years ago. Maybe we each had a different person in mind?

**Guloqkcm** · 10-15-2007, 06:00 PM

Well I'm not necessarily surprised if Tadatoshi Haga sensei had passed, he would be like 88 or so now if he was still alive I think. I hadn't heard that he had passed though.

**MrsGoo** · 10-15-2007, 06:02 PM

Musnt be legit then.

You're too funny! That had me laughing.

Judging by the pre-war comment, I knew the sensei must be legit.

Anything pre-war is interesting.

For everyones records:

http://haga-dojo.operacity.com/

and

http://www.hagaha-kendou.com/

Some nice ashibarai pics on 2nd site.

Oh gee, THANKS. They are in Japanese... Too much kanji and not enough hiragana in it to make any sense at all as to what it says.

*sniff!* Waaaaahhhh, I can't READ it!!!

Don't you have any information in English? Where are those pics on the second site please?

Kaoru

**appletango** · 10-15-2007, 06:09 PM

I beleive he was at Shidogakuin NY dojo in 2004 for their 20th anniv. taikai as shinpan-cho. Any shidogakuin members know?

Hanshi Tadatoshi Haga was not well enough to make the trip for the tournament.

**aliceingoogs** · 10-15-2007, 06:45 PM

Spoke with Shioiri-sensei a couple of months ago, and asked about Haga-sensei (Tadatoshi Haga). Reply was that he passed away a couple of years ago. Maybe we each had a different person in mind?

Hi all, might want to tone this premature news down a bit.

Tadatoshi Haga is a great friend and supporter of Australian Kendo and Iaido, and if he had died, I am sure that we would have heard.

**gghrdfffhfyj** · 10-15-2007, 07:07 PM

Hi all, might want to tone this premature news down a bit.

Tadatoshi Haga is a great friend and supporter of Australian Kendo and Iaido, and if he had died, I am sure that we would have heard.

My apologies Richard. As I said, I thought we may have had a diffent person in mind.

**RokeIdeadioke** · 10-15-2007, 07:19 PM

Just thought I'd point out that the links George posted are about Haga Jun'ichi, not Haga Tadatoshi.

**22paseabelldaps** · 10-15-2007, 07:21 PM

Somehow I think there is confusion over who is who here.

(EDIT: Oroshi got in here first!)

The original Haga (Junnichi) sensei - and the one the original question is pertaining too I believe - died in 1966 at age 58 and was a student of Nakayama Hakudo. His students currently run the Haga Dojo(s) following his teachings in kendo/iaido as close as possible.

Kendo Jidai has is currently in the middle of a year-long series about Haga senseis kendo.

Disclaimer: I know very little about the Haga dojo nor its comings and goings. I think there are a couple of 8dan brothers called Haga, but I have no idea if they are anything to do with Haga Junnichi or not. KingofM has sometimes posted about Haga here in the past.

Here is some information about "Haga Tadatoshi" in English and Japanese (content is different) from the Yoshinkan dojo in Canada. It seems Tadatoshi was a student of Junnichi.

**GaryBulguihb** · 10-15-2007, 10:57 PM

They're brothers.

**9wQlZkIj** · 10-16-2007, 12:05 AM

oooh, some crossed wires in there, but almost perfect!!

The Japanese page of the Canadian site says it all: "羽賀忠利: 世に鬼才と言われた羽賀準一の実弟"

**TOOGUEITEME** · 10-17-2007, 04:51 PM

They're brothers.

I know of 8th dans who today look to Haga Tadatoshi as an exemplar in kendo and iaido, despite his health.

Also his brother (mentioned above) was a highly respected and much feared kendo opponent.

10-15-2007, 11:32 AM	#1
shodulsilfeli Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 566 Senior Member	Haga school of Kendo Does anyone know much about Haga Sensei of the Haga school of Kendo. I know that it is pre-war(?) kendo and I was wondering, from a regular kendo practitioner what exactly this might mean as far as technique and training differences. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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quorceopporce Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 597 Senior Member	Does anyone know much about Haga Sensei of the Haga school of Kendo. I know that it is pre-war(?) kendo and I was wondering, from a regular kendo practitioner what exactly this might mean as far as technique and training differences. I just tried to research it, but with such little info, I couldn't find what I wanted. Do you have his full name? I never have heard of Haga-sensei before. By school of kendo, do you mean a dojo by that name or, just his style? Thanks. Now you got me interested. Kaoru Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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SarSerceSaice Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 486 Senior Member	I never have heard of Haga-sensei before. Musnt be legit then. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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tpdirorg Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 372 Senior Member	The only Haga sensei I have heard much about is Tadatoshi Haga sensei who is (was?) hachidan hanshi in both iaido and kendo. I'm not sure he is still alive or not. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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U5pz6B71 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	I beleive he was at Shidogakuin NY dojo in 2004 for their 20th anniv. taikai as shinpan-cho. Any shidogakuin members know? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Elaltergephah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Haga-sensei is still with us, last I heard. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 05:44 PM	#7
isopsmypovA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	For everyones records: http://haga-dojo.operacity.com/ and http://www.hagaha-kendou.com/ Some nice ashibarai pics on 2nd site. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 05:52 PM	#8
EnvellFen Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	Spoke with Shioiri-sensei a couple of months ago, and asked about Haga-sensei (Tadatoshi Haga). Reply was that he passed away a couple of years ago. Maybe we each had a different person in mind? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 06:00 PM	#9
Guloqkcm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	Well I'm not necessarily surprised if Tadatoshi Haga sensei had passed, he would be like 88 or so now if he was still alive I think. I hadn't heard that he had passed though. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 06:02 PM	#10
MrsGoo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 569 Senior Member	Musnt be legit then. You're too funny! That had me laughing. Judging by the pre-war comment, I knew the sensei must be legit. Anything pre-war is interesting. For everyones records: http://haga-dojo.operacity.com/ and http://www.hagaha-kendou.com/ Some nice ashibarai pics on 2nd site. Oh gee, THANKS. They are in Japanese... Too much kanji and not enough hiragana in it to make any sense at all as to what it says. sniff! Waaaaahhhh, I can't READ it!!! Don't you have any information in English? Where are those pics on the second site please? Kaoru Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 06:09 PM	#11
appletango Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	I beleive he was at Shidogakuin NY dojo in 2004 for their 20th anniv. taikai as shinpan-cho. Any shidogakuin members know? Hanshi Tadatoshi Haga was not well enough to make the trip for the tournament. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 06:45 PM	#12
aliceingoogs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 607 Senior Member	Spoke with Shioiri-sensei a couple of months ago, and asked about Haga-sensei (Tadatoshi Haga). Reply was that he passed away a couple of years ago. Maybe we each had a different person in mind? Hi all, might want to tone this premature news down a bit. Tadatoshi Haga is a great friend and supporter of Australian Kendo and Iaido, and if he had died, I am sure that we would have heard. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 07:07 PM	#13
gghrdfffhfyj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Hi all, might want to tone this premature news down a bit. Tadatoshi Haga is a great friend and supporter of Australian Kendo and Iaido, and if he had died, I am sure that we would have heard. My apologies Richard. As I said, I thought we may have had a diffent person in mind. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 07:19 PM	#14
RokeIdeadioke Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 569 Senior Member	Just thought I'd point out that the links George posted are about Haga Jun'ichi, not Haga Tadatoshi. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-15-2007, 07:21 PM	#15
22paseabelldaps Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	Somehow I think there is confusion over who is who here. (EDIT: Oroshi got in here first!) The original Haga (Junnichi) sensei - and the one the original question is pertaining too I believe - died in 1966 at age 58 and was a student of Nakayama Hakudo. His students currently run the Haga Dojo(s) following his teachings in kendo/iaido as close as possible. Kendo Jidai has is currently in the middle of a year-long series about Haga senseis kendo. Disclaimer: I know very little about the Haga dojo nor its comings and goings. I think there are a couple of 8dan brothers called Haga, but I have no idea if they are anything to do with Haga Junnichi or not. KingofM has sometimes posted about Haga here in the past. Here is some information about "Haga Tadatoshi" in English and Japanese (content is different) from the Yoshinkan dojo in Canada. It seems Tadatoshi was a student of Junnichi. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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GaryBulguihb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	They're brothers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-16-2007, 12:05 AM	#17
9wQlZkIj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 599 Senior Member	oooh, some crossed wires in there, but almost perfect!! The Japanese page of the Canadian site says it all: "羽賀忠利: 世に鬼才と言われた羽賀準一の実弟" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-17-2007, 04:51 PM	#18
TOOGUEITEME Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	They're brothers. I know of 8th dans who today look to Haga Tadatoshi as an exemplar in kendo and iaido, despite his health. Also his brother (mentioned above) was a highly respected and much feared kendo opponent. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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