[JacksHH]

. . .yeah... well... you'd be surprised. a warm bed and three squares a day can be pretty appealing - plus, if there's a possibility of free rehab... it might just be worth the tazer. homeless people on crack can be silly like that sometimes. i wonder what i'd do...

You say you are a defense lawyer and your profile says you are 28 years old. Therefore you probably haven't been practicing very long.
While folks in the far northwest might look at jail as a good place to spend the winter, I don't think many folks in Florida share that feeling.

Rather than quote your other post about the campus cops acting reasonably, let me just say, I beg to differ. They are obviously poorly trained. Problem is, the people that can train them can't. American cops will never, ever take any training from someone who is not a cop. You end up with thuggery.
Quick wristlock takes him down. Switch to any one of several holds and believe you me he will want to stand up and walk quickly in the direction that you want him to go. Remove him from the area and cuff him when he is away from the spotlight.

[softy54534]

American cops will never, ever take any training from someone who is not a cop. You end up with thuggery.
Quick wristlock takes him down. Switch to any one of several holds and believe you me he will want to stand up and walk quickly in the direction that you want him to go. Remove him from the area and cuff him when he is away from the spotlight.

That reminded me of cops here in Glendale.
I've seen our boys take down people on three separate occasions, and all three were with some sort of locks, looked Aikido-ish. Our cops are HUGE. like Arnie HUGE.
Then again, I understand that to be selected to serve on the force of our city is among the most difficult selection process in the nation.

If they directed me to do a tap dance, I'd hoof it like Gregory Heines.


In any event, here's my impression on the events currently going on in that dude's life:

Mr. DTMB: "Dad, "I'm sorry if I embarrassed the family."

Mr. DTMB's Dad: (Smoking Pipe) "On the contrary son, what you did was a very brave thing, standing up to Herman Munster like that. Your mother and I are damn proud of you boy! Here, have a Lexus!

Mr. DTMB: Gee, thanks, Dad!!!!! But...aw....blue?

Mr. DTMB's Dad: "Oh what heck, Candy-Apple red it is!!!!!"

Mr. DTMB: "You're the bestest DAD! "



I hope that dude's balls lit up like a Christmas tree.

[zilsolley3]

Didn't even really look like they actually tasered him he was just whining. Typically the police don't have their hands on a person that is getting tased (yes I know they had latex gloves on but those don't stop current very well, they are a bio barrier). Taser are actually pretty safe as a knock down for both the person using them as well as the person being tased. It's much better than being knocked out by a billy club the way they used to do it.

I have seen a lot of videos were people hold the subject subjected to tasing without gloves and it seems to work fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho is an example.

[caseferter]

AHAHAHAHAHA

[blankostaroe]

That's funny.

[Rwujnezq]

BTW, non-lethal doesn't necessarily mean without risk of injury. Check out this story of an officer whose muscle contractions during a taser demo caused spinal fractures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/he...=1&oref=slogin

[alexosnasos2]

BTW, non-lethal doesn't necessarily mean without risk of injury. Check out this story of an officer whose muscle contractions during a taser demo caused spinal fractures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/he...=1&oref=slogin

Still a better idea than just beating someone into submission with a club if you asked me.

[XzBZB2UV]

You say you are a defense lawyer and your profile says you are 28 years old. Therefore you probably haven't been practicing very long.
While folks in the far northwest might look at jail as a good place to spend the winter, I don't think many folks in Florida share that feeling.

...

Quick wristlock takes him down. Switch to any one of several holds and believe you me he will want to stand up and walk quickly in the direction that you want him to go. Remove him from the area and cuff him when he is away from the spotlight.

I've been practicing long enough (mostly in Detroit actually) to know that there are definitely people (note i limited those people to the homeless) who will take free room and board over lying in a street where people kick, yell, and piss on you. As to Florida, you get teenagers to go around killing the homeless, so you'd think they'd be just as eager, if not moreso, to go to jail.

All that aside, I think your statement about effective ways to forcible remove a person is perfectly reasonable. Electrocuting someone so that their 'will' will comply with yours is not. JMHO.

[Barbshowers]

Make no mistake about it, my way is "compliance through pain". Do what I want you to do and it will stop hurting. The real trick is to lead them to where you want them to go because it stops the pain. It has to be done in a smooth way or else you just end up struggling. Their #1 concern is to stop the pain #2 is to escape. So if you want them to go to the left, make the pain stop if they go to the left but keep the pressure on so they keep going to the left and never get a chance to go for #2.

[denSmumbSes]

Land of the free?

so long as you dont ask questions I guess....

[poekfpojoibien]

Land of the free?

so long as you dont ask questions I guess....

Oh, one can ask questions;
Just don't waste everyone's time by disruptive blathering with self-grandiose attention-whore nonsense to a high-ranking government official who has graciously given (for a fee) to the students of this school a chance to engage in dialogs with someone who at least has the decorum not to fight policemen when being removed for breaking the law by disrupting a school function ( misdemeanor) and then compounding it by resisting arrest. (A felony) --actually Kerry may have done that himself at one time...

The cops don't have the time or luxury to play "WWF" with some dumbass who has broken the law. You fight the cops, you get tazed.
Quick, simple. period. It's not like you're being taken to a camp somewhere to be tortured.
Don't agree with the cops? Fine. Go with them peacefully and sue the crap out of the city later, in a court of law.

This jackalope represents some people's idea of what they think they can do or say or behave like in society, which is anything or anyway they want.

Surprise! ZZaP!
Life ain't all about YOU , college boy!
Most of us in the real world have to watch what and how the things we say and do to other people, and generally have to play by the rules which we make.
In the real world, dealing with people like this guy did can often get you a dirt-nap as a reward.

The guy's a disgrace to the school. IMHO.

[Stainditnew]

Check it out.

If I had money to waste...

[Reftsheette]

People that should be tased upon arrest (for any reason)...

1. Paris Hilton
2. Lindsay Lohan
3. Phil Wright
4. Any news reporter that was involved with the Anna Nicole Smith thingy.
5. People who drink Bud Light (and think it tastes good)
6. People who deny that they've ever masturbated (don't look me in the eyes and lie to me, woman)
7. Anyone who claims to study, or has studied ninjitsu
8. Micheal Vick
9. Anyone who says, " Don't tase me bro!"
10.Child molesters (tasing must be directly to balls)

[WGfg4CCZ]

+ rep for you sir

11. Rosie O'Donnell
12. People who wear those ridiculous DBZ shirts.

[antipenq]

I don't know who he is and what is his history. I only saw him asking uncomfortable questions. Kerry didn't like the questions, cop escorted him out because he asked unfavorable questions and tased him because he is loud. this is so f..k up. I guess if he asks something about bad Bush, he will be invited to VIP lounge.

[TheDoctor]

13. Bill O'Reiley-does not need to be actually arrested, may be tased simply on suspicion of being up to no good.
14. Rush Limbaugh-ditto.

[elektikakass]

I don't know who he is and what is his history. I only saw him asking uncomfortable questions. Kerry didn't like the questions, cop escorted him out because he asked unfavorable questions and tased him because he is loud. this is so f..k up. I guess if he asks something about bad Bush, he will be invited to VIP lounge.

It wasn't the content of the questions, it was the fact that he was being purposefully disruptive.

The history of the event is important.
The whole reason why the cops were standing behind him in the first place was because reportedly he was making a scene outside in the lobby prior to the event, so they were watching him closely. He is also a journalism major. His prepared statement of his arrest was posted by his buddies on his website moments after the event. This wasn't about free speech in my view, but about a selfish twit interviewing for the Washington Press Corps. The sad part is, all of the students who are marching for this idiot are playing right into his hands.

In any case, the contents of the questions were strictly from the tin-foil hat wearing crowd, which also was crafted for mass Woo-Woo effect.

Skull and Bones! OooOoOOoOoOo scary!

Oddly enough, Kerry was going to answer the questions.

[diutuartina]

Is it wrong for me to find that hilarious?

[Reocourgigiot]

Taser was unnecessary. There were 4 security people AT LEAST.

Presumably leaving zero security in 3 places where security was considered necessary, so this kid could have his selfish media moment.

[phpfoxmods]

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