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**Maydayvar** · 10-05-2009, 10:43 PM

Best of luck and a speedy recovery!

**Soassesaisp** · 10-06-2009, 01:36 AM

Wife had PRK done at local surgery in Birmingham, with about a month between each eye being corrected. A few days of soreness and maybe a month of 'dry eye' with the first eye but other than that she says it is the best thing she has done.

Good luck Gibbo.

**Lauramalina** · 10-06-2009, 09:06 PM

Wife had PRK done at local surgery in Birmingham, with about a month between each eye being corrected. A few days of soreness and maybe a month of 'dry eye' with the first eye but other than that she says it is the best thing she has done.

Good luck Gibbo.

If she had PRK, it proves that Women's pain thresholds are higher than mens!

Mine killed.

**blackjackiisre** · 10-06-2009, 09:15 PM

I'm busy gathering opinions and what not from people who've done it (it's always worth researching expensive death-star-firing-in-to-your-eye events before going through it....) and the forum search gave me a million results from Period Pain to I'm looking for a Japanese Kendoka husband. Neither of which suggest informed opinions about laser eye surgery....so:

Have you done it? What was it like? Has it improved your eyesight, for kendo specifically? Any drawbacks to your practise etc? Any other things worth considering?

I can find all the horror stories and what not on the net myself, so unless it's directly kendo related nothing like "My mate's dad's cousin's dog died when someone fired a Lasik laser at his balls" or anything similar.....

Cheers!

Some months ago , a dojo mate had that surgery ,

two weeks later he was training , and he increased his technique due to his improved eyesight , moreover his confidence.

Nothing wrong happened to him.

**shihoodiacarf** · 10-07-2009, 02:04 PM

Hope it goes well for you!

As for myself, I had lasik done on both my eyes in 1998. At the time, I had pretty bad near-sightedness, though I don't remember my correction. Basically, I couldn't read the instrument panel of a car without glasses; it was all fuzz. A week after the procedures (they did one eye on a thursday, one on a friday, something about not doing both eyes in the same visit), I had 20/20 in my right eye and 20/15 in my left eye. Actually, my eyesight was great after 24 hours in each eye, but they wanted it to stabilize before they did another eye exam, hence the week wait.

The procedure itself was very odd, but did not take long. I was in and out of the place in like 20 minutes on each day. The most important thing, at least that they told me, was not to disturb the "flap" for the first week. So I wore metal eyepatches taped over my face so I couldn't accidentally rub my eye (and tear open the flap) each night. Although it felt like I had sand in my eyes for the first day in each eye. And I had an eyepatch on for the first 24 hours in each eye, even during the day, to make it easier to keep my eyes closed, and to prevent me from rubbing it. Except for putting the antibiotic eyedrops in, I kept it very low key. Everything healed up just fine, and a day after the second procedure, I had no discomfort, and could see great, even though I kept doing the drops and wearing the eyepatches at night for about a week.

However, for the first few years, I saw big "halos" (like a ring of hazy light) around any light source that I looked at in darkness. For example, incoming car headlights at night, or lit signs for stores, etc. This is because the circle they cut the flap out of is as wide as possible without going too deep, which is wide enough to be larger in diameter than the iris during daylight conditions, but as your iris opens up for low-light in dark conditions, it becomes wide enough that it's now included the ripple in the surface of the cornea, which is the "dip" from where the flap was cut. This causes light refraction. Which is what causes the halo thingy. Rather interesting, though kind of annoying, but it lessened after maybe three years, and now I don't even notice it anymore; a combination of my eye smoothing out over time, and now it's pretty much so close to completely gone I don't notice it.

I still pass a driving exam without glasses, no problem, after 11 years. I can read stuff from far away, etc. etc. However, my eyesight is likely not 20/20 anymore, as there is fuzziness that there never used to be. I was told that all nearsightedness gets worse over time, and that this would correct, but it would eventually get bad again, but it was too hard for them to predict how many years that would take.

I don't regret the decision at all, and it honestly was perhaps the best medical decision I've made in my life. Changed the way I did things. No more being blind while in bed, in the shower, in a swimming pool, etc. And it competely changed sports in that I didn't have to deal with contacts and the irritation of sweat, nor glasses and their flailing around or fogging up.

Honestly, I highly recommend the surgery for anyone who is not a bad candidate for the procedure. Fantastic.

**softy54534** · 10-07-2009, 02:15 PM

However, for the first few years, I saw big "halos" (like a ring of hazy light) around any light source that I looked at in darkness. For example, incoming car headlights at night, or lit signs for stores, etc. This is because the circle they cut the flap out of is as wide as possible without going too deep, which is wide enough to be larger in diameter than the iris during daylight conditions, but as your iris opens up for low-light in dark conditions, it becomes wide enough that it's now included the ripple in the surface of the cornea, which is the "dip" from where the flap was cut. This causes light refraction. Which is what causes the halo thingy. Rather interesting, though kind of annoying, but it lessened after maybe three years, and now I don't even notice it anymore; a combination of my eye smoothing out over time, and now it's pretty much so close to completely gone I don't notice it.

That used to be a common side-effect, and as you point out it's a mismatch between the ablation zone (cutting area) of the laser and your pupil's dilated size. I was well aware of this when I checked out the procedure, and when the doctor measured my dilated pupil at 7 mm with an ablation zone of 6.5 and told me I would have no night vision troubles, I ran away.

Modern machines now have larger ablation zones so it's not so much an issue. But I'm still very nervous about the procedure, especially after being lied to by a doctor at what was supposedly a very reputable clinic.

**Zjohkrbi** · 10-07-2009, 08:53 PM

Modern machines now have larger ablation zones so it's not so much an issue. But I'm still very nervous about the procedure, especially after being lied to by a doctor at what was supposedly a very reputable clinic.

It's up to you but living somewhere hot, I couldn't be wearing glasses all the time

**Qvqnubpj** · 10-07-2009, 08:58 PM

I live somewhere that's ridiculously hot AND humid in the summer, yet I wear glasses all the time.

**sykanaxer** · 10-08-2009, 08:07 AM

It's up to you but living somewhere hot, I couldn't be wearing glasses all the time

They're way more of a PITA in cold than in the heat. Every time you come in to a building when it's cold outside, they fog up and stay fogged up until the glass gets somewhere closer to room temperature. I've never really thought of them as being more uncomfortable than normal when it's hot out.

**Retapleapse** · 10-09-2009, 06:50 AM

So I went to have the exam done, and predictably I am a-ok for the Death Star attack. The test did not, disappointingly, involve whirling blades, stabbing instruments, or flames, but was uncomfortable in it's own way. That having been said I'm no longer freaked out about stuff touching my eye, as during the pokey-in-the-eye part of the test I didn't realise that she actually was poking me in the eye until she said "Does this hurt at all?" All good!

Step two: the destruction of Alderan.

**truck** · 10-09-2009, 09:35 PM

I always found the air-puff test the worse.

**mtautomoscow** · 10-09-2009, 10:07 PM

I always found the air-puff test the worse.

I'm surprised I've got the balls to be going through with this actually because I have real issues about my eyse and stuff going in. I jumped like a cat in cold water at the air puff, and squirmed with the eye drops as well....

what the fuck am I doing!

In any case, the Mrs has agreed the funds, so now I just book the time off. Might do it as soon as Wednesady next week!

**Usendyduexy** · 10-09-2009, 11:37 PM

How long you off keiko for?

**ElenaEvgeevnaa** · 10-09-2009, 11:41 PM

How long you off keiko for?

Been off for a week (no contacts for a week before the pre-op exam), off for another week before the exam (still no contacts) then will probably wait 10 - 14 days after the exam before going back to keiko, to be on the safe side.

Better now while I don't have anything pressing anytime soon. Got a small shiai a week into November, but should be back on track by then.

**Rememavotscam** · 10-10-2009, 05:18 AM

I sure all will go well!! Good luck!

**Gasfghj** · 10-12-2009, 07:25 PM

Good luck.

**hictchewisa** · 10-12-2009, 08:38 PM

I'm surprised I've got the balls to be going through with this actually because I have real issues about my eyse and stuff going in. I jumped like a cat in cold water at the air puff, and squirmed with the eye drops as well....

what the fuck am I doing!

In any case, the Mrs has agreed the funds, so now I just book the time off. Might do it as soon as Wednesady next week!

Good effort lad!

**LarryRda** · 10-12-2009, 08:54 PM

I just read an article that said something like, most people (around 80% maybe?) still have to wear glasses or contacts occasionally, after doing it. But, (oddly enough) around the same percentage were happy with the results.

**8cyVn4RJ** · 10-12-2009, 09:00 PM

I just read an article that said something like, most people (around 80% maybe?) still have to wear glasses or contacts occasionally, after doing it. But, (oddly enough) around the same percentage were happy with the results.

It's usually the case that you need glasses at middle age for reading etc.

It's worth it IMHO. If I need glasses again at 40, I'll have still had my most active years without glasses

**CesseOveldset** · 10-13-2009, 02:26 PM

good luck with that fella !

10-05-2009, 10:43 PM	#21
Maydayvar Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	Best of luck and a speedy recovery! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-06-2009, 01:36 AM	#22
Soassesaisp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 393 Senior Member	Wife had PRK done at local surgery in Birmingham, with about a month between each eye being corrected. A few days of soreness and maybe a month of 'dry eye' with the first eye but other than that she says it is the best thing she has done. Good luck Gibbo. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-06-2009, 09:06 PM	#23
Lauramalina Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	Wife had PRK done at local surgery in Birmingham, with about a month between each eye being corrected. A few days of soreness and maybe a month of 'dry eye' with the first eye but other than that she says it is the best thing she has done. Good luck Gibbo. If she had PRK, it proves that Women's pain thresholds are higher than mens! Mine killed. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-06-2009, 09:15 PM	#24
blackjackiisre Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	I'm busy gathering opinions and what not from people who've done it (it's always worth researching expensive death-star-firing-in-to-your-eye events before going through it....) and the forum search gave me a million results from Period Pain to I'm looking for a Japanese Kendoka husband. Neither of which suggest informed opinions about laser eye surgery....so: Have you done it? What was it like? Has it improved your eyesight, for kendo specifically? Any drawbacks to your practise etc? Any other things worth considering? I can find all the horror stories and what not on the net myself, so unless it's directly kendo related nothing like "My mate's dad's cousin's dog died when someone fired a Lasik laser at his balls" or anything similar..... Cheers! Some months ago , a dojo mate had that surgery , two weeks later he was training , and he increased his technique due to his improved eyesight , moreover his confidence. Nothing wrong happened to him. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-07-2009, 02:04 PM	#25
shihoodiacarf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	Hope it goes well for you! As for myself, I had lasik done on both my eyes in 1998. At the time, I had pretty bad near-sightedness, though I don't remember my correction. Basically, I couldn't read the instrument panel of a car without glasses; it was all fuzz. A week after the procedures (they did one eye on a thursday, one on a friday, something about not doing both eyes in the same visit), I had 20/20 in my right eye and 20/15 in my left eye. Actually, my eyesight was great after 24 hours in each eye, but they wanted it to stabilize before they did another eye exam, hence the week wait. The procedure itself was very odd, but did not take long. I was in and out of the place in like 20 minutes on each day. The most important thing, at least that they told me, was not to disturb the "flap" for the first week. So I wore metal eyepatches taped over my face so I couldn't accidentally rub my eye (and tear open the flap) each night. Although it felt like I had sand in my eyes for the first day in each eye. And I had an eyepatch on for the first 24 hours in each eye, even during the day, to make it easier to keep my eyes closed, and to prevent me from rubbing it. Except for putting the antibiotic eyedrops in, I kept it very low key. Everything healed up just fine, and a day after the second procedure, I had no discomfort, and could see great, even though I kept doing the drops and wearing the eyepatches at night for about a week. However, for the first few years, I saw big "halos" (like a ring of hazy light) around any light source that I looked at in darkness. For example, incoming car headlights at night, or lit signs for stores, etc. This is because the circle they cut the flap out of is as wide as possible without going too deep, which is wide enough to be larger in diameter than the iris during daylight conditions, but as your iris opens up for low-light in dark conditions, it becomes wide enough that it's now included the ripple in the surface of the cornea, which is the "dip" from where the flap was cut. This causes light refraction. Which is what causes the halo thingy. Rather interesting, though kind of annoying, but it lessened after maybe three years, and now I don't even notice it anymore; a combination of my eye smoothing out over time, and now it's pretty much so close to completely gone I don't notice it. I still pass a driving exam without glasses, no problem, after 11 years. I can read stuff from far away, etc. etc. However, my eyesight is likely not 20/20 anymore, as there is fuzziness that there never used to be. I was told that all nearsightedness gets worse over time, and that this would correct, but it would eventually get bad again, but it was too hard for them to predict how many years that would take. I don't regret the decision at all, and it honestly was perhaps the best medical decision I've made in my life. Changed the way I did things. No more being blind while in bed, in the shower, in a swimming pool, etc. And it competely changed sports in that I didn't have to deal with contacts and the irritation of sweat, nor glasses and their flailing around or fogging up. Honestly, I highly recommend the surgery for anyone who is not a bad candidate for the procedure. Fantastic. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-07-2009, 02:15 PM	#26
softy54534 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,457 Senior Member	However, for the first few years, I saw big "halos" (like a ring of hazy light) around any light source that I looked at in darkness. For example, incoming car headlights at night, or lit signs for stores, etc. This is because the circle they cut the flap out of is as wide as possible without going too deep, which is wide enough to be larger in diameter than the iris during daylight conditions, but as your iris opens up for low-light in dark conditions, it becomes wide enough that it's now included the ripple in the surface of the cornea, which is the "dip" from where the flap was cut. This causes light refraction. Which is what causes the halo thingy. Rather interesting, though kind of annoying, but it lessened after maybe three years, and now I don't even notice it anymore; a combination of my eye smoothing out over time, and now it's pretty much so close to completely gone I don't notice it. That used to be a common side-effect, and as you point out it's a mismatch between the ablation zone (cutting area) of the laser and your pupil's dilated size. I was well aware of this when I checked out the procedure, and when the doctor measured my dilated pupil at 7 mm with an ablation zone of 6.5 and told me I would have no night vision troubles, I ran away. Modern machines now have larger ablation zones so it's not so much an issue. But I'm still very nervous about the procedure, especially after being lied to by a doctor at what was supposedly a very reputable clinic. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-07-2009, 08:53 PM	#27
Zjohkrbi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	Modern machines now have larger ablation zones so it's not so much an issue. But I'm still very nervous about the procedure, especially after being lied to by a doctor at what was supposedly a very reputable clinic. It's up to you but living somewhere hot, I couldn't be wearing glasses all the time Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-07-2009, 08:58 PM	#28
Qvqnubpj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	I live somewhere that's ridiculously hot AND humid in the summer, yet I wear glasses all the time. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-08-2009, 08:07 AM	#29
sykanaxer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	It's up to you but living somewhere hot, I couldn't be wearing glasses all the time They're way more of a PITA in cold than in the heat. Every time you come in to a building when it's cold outside, they fog up and stay fogged up until the glass gets somewhere closer to room temperature. I've never really thought of them as being more uncomfortable than normal when it's hot out. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-09-2009, 06:50 AM	#30
Retapleapse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	So I went to have the exam done, and predictably I am a-ok for the Death Star attack. The test did not, disappointingly, involve whirling blades, stabbing instruments, or flames, but was uncomfortable in it's own way. That having been said I'm no longer freaked out about stuff touching my eye, as during the pokey-in-the-eye part of the test I didn't realise that she actually was poking me in the eye until she said "Does this hurt at all?" All good! Step two: the destruction of Alderan. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-09-2009, 09:35 PM	#31
truck Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 451 Senior Member	I always found the air-puff test the worse. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-09-2009, 10:07 PM	#32
mtautomoscow Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 423 Senior Member	I always found the air-puff test the worse. I'm surprised I've got the balls to be going through with this actually because I have real issues about my eyse and stuff going in. I jumped like a cat in cold water at the air puff, and squirmed with the eye drops as well.... what the fuck am I doing! In any case, the Mrs has agreed the funds, so now I just book the time off. Might do it as soon as Wednesady next week! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-09-2009, 11:37 PM	#33
Usendyduexy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 660 Senior Member	How long you off keiko for? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-09-2009, 11:41 PM	#34
ElenaEvgeevnaa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 497 Senior Member	How long you off keiko for? Been off for a week (no contacts for a week before the pre-op exam), off for another week before the exam (still no contacts) then will probably wait 10 - 14 days after the exam before going back to keiko, to be on the safe side. Better now while I don't have anything pressing anytime soon. Got a small shiai a week into November, but should be back on track by then. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-10-2009, 05:18 AM	#35
Rememavotscam Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	I sure all will go well!! Good luck! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 07:25 PM	#36
Gasfghj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	Good luck. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 08:38 PM	#37
hictchewisa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	I'm surprised I've got the balls to be going through with this actually because I have real issues about my eyse and stuff going in. I jumped like a cat in cold water at the air puff, and squirmed with the eye drops as well.... what the fuck am I doing! In any case, the Mrs has agreed the funds, so now I just book the time off. Might do it as soon as Wednesady next week! Good effort lad! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 08:54 PM	#38
LarryRda Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	I just read an article that said something like, most people (around 80% maybe?) still have to wear glasses or contacts occasionally, after doing it. But, (oddly enough) around the same percentage were happy with the results. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-12-2009, 09:00 PM	#39
8cyVn4RJ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	I just read an article that said something like, most people (around 80% maybe?) still have to wear glasses or contacts occasionally, after doing it. But, (oddly enough) around the same percentage were happy with the results. It's usually the case that you need glasses at middle age for reading etc. It's worth it IMHO. If I need glasses again at 40, I'll have still had my most active years without glasses Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 02:26 PM	#40
CesseOveldset Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	good luck with that fella ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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