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**Inonanialry** · 10-21-2009, 12:16 PM

1lb is 450g.

Glad I don't follow your method of conversion. I would weigh the same as an orca.

**ayWCZ7VT** · 10-21-2009, 12:19 PM

Anyway, even at a mere 2-3x the weight, I still think that you can't just pick it up and handle it the same as the shinai.

Of course not, I was just being persnickety.

But I did see Haga-sensei demonstrate an effortless kote-style cut on newspaper years ago. Think he was using his iaito though...

**VonErmad4** · 10-21-2009, 12:21 PM

Hmm. I could've sworn typical weight was around 1 lb = 2200g. Maybe I am thinking of gunto? Or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. Iaito are lighter but they're alloy and so I don't think that applies.

Anyway, even at a mere 2-3x the weight, I still think that you can't just pick it up and handle it the same as the shinai.

You have it reversed, its 2.2lbs to 1 kg.

I would agree, shinken and iaido hae different balances etc. if I took up someone elses set of golf clubs of a different length, materials etc I could likely use them, but not be as comfortable as with my own equipment.

**aaaaaaaabbbby** · 10-21-2009, 12:22 PM

1lb is 450g.

Glad I don't follow your method of conversion. I would weigh the same as an orca.

Hrm. 1 kg = 2.2 pounds, not 1 pound = 2.2 kg.
details, details... Good thing I'm not a rocket scientist

**bubbachew14** · 10-21-2009, 05:19 PM

Hrm. 1 kg = 2.2 pounds, not 1 pound = 2.2 kg.
details, details... Good thing I'm not a rocket scientist

Are you sure you don't work for NASA?

**Salliter** · 10-21-2009, 09:45 PM

Most of the people who train with shinken would be used to the weight. You might find it heavy but they wouldn't.

**erelvenewmeva** · 10-22-2009, 03:30 AM

I [would ?] weigh the same as an orca.

Given your dimensions - - don't EVER wear White Gi - Black Hakama combo....

No doubt someone would yell 'Free Willie.....'

There would be people killed in the rush [...for the exit]

**KojlinMakolvin** · 10-22-2009, 03:32 AM

Bugger. Can't neg-rep you. Will have to settle with kin-geri when I see you in just over a week.

**PapsEdisa** · 10-22-2009, 06:31 AM

Bugger. Can't neg-rep you. Will have to settle with kin-geri when I see you in just over a week.

You're going to splash him with golden diarrhea? Or were you thinking "tama-keri"?

**AlexBrith** · 10-22-2009, 06:42 AM

Always known this technique as kingeri.

**dremucha** · 10-22-2009, 07:39 AM

No doubt someone would yell 'Free Willie.....' I thought that's why the Scots wear kilts? ...

**erubresen** · 10-22-2009, 09:21 AM

1lb is 450g.

Glad I don't follow your method of conversion. I would weigh the same as an orca.

Must resist the urge to comment, but it looks toooo easy

10-21-2009, 12:16 PM	#21
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ayWCZ7VT Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 411 Senior Member	Anyway, even at a mere 2-3x the weight, I still think that you can't just pick it up and handle it the same as the shinai. Of course not, I was just being persnickety. But I did see Haga-sensei demonstrate an effortless kote-style cut on newspaper years ago. Think he was using his iaito though... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-21-2009, 12:21 PM	#23
VonErmad4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 543 Senior Member	Hmm. I could've sworn typical weight was around 1 lb = 2200g. Maybe I am thinking of gunto? Or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. Iaito are lighter but they're alloy and so I don't think that applies. Anyway, even at a mere 2-3x the weight, I still think that you can't just pick it up and handle it the same as the shinai. You have it reversed, its 2.2lbs to 1 kg. I would agree, shinken and iaido hae different balances etc. if I took up someone elses set of golf clubs of a different length, materials etc I could likely use them, but not be as comfortable as with my own equipment. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-21-2009, 12:22 PM	#24
aaaaaaaabbbby Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	1lb is 450g. Glad I don't follow your method of conversion. I would weigh the same as an orca. Hrm. 1 kg = 2.2 pounds, not 1 pound = 2.2 kg. details, details... Good thing I'm not a rocket scientist Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-21-2009, 05:19 PM	#25
bubbachew14 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	Hrm. 1 kg = 2.2 pounds, not 1 pound = 2.2 kg. details, details... Good thing I'm not a rocket scientist Are you sure you don't work for NASA? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Salliter Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	Most of the people who train with shinken would be used to the weight. You might find it heavy but they wouldn't. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-22-2009, 03:30 AM	#27
erelvenewmeva Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	I [would ?] weigh the same as an orca. Given your dimensions - - don't EVER wear White Gi - Black Hakama combo.... No doubt someone would yell 'Free Willie.....' There would be people killed in the rush [...for the exit] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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KojlinMakolvin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	Bugger. Can't neg-rep you. Will have to settle with kin-geri when I see you in just over a week. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-22-2009, 06:31 AM	#29
PapsEdisa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 545 Senior Member	Bugger. Can't neg-rep you. Will have to settle with kin-geri when I see you in just over a week. You're going to splash him with golden diarrhea? Or were you thinking "tama-keri"? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-22-2009, 06:42 AM	#30
AlexBrith Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	Always known this technique as kingeri. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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dremucha Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	No doubt someone would yell 'Free Willie.....' I thought that's why the Scots wear kilts? ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-22-2009, 09:21 AM	#32
erubresen Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	1lb is 450g. Glad I don't follow your method of conversion. I would weigh the same as an orca. Must resist the urge to comment, but it looks toooo easy Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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