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nintenda 10-24-2010 04:29 AM

Hakama Question
 
Hi

I have a question, What exactly is the purpose of the the Koshita on the Hakama worn for Aikido, Kendo etc. ?
It's just a question that's been bugging me for a while and googling doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere near satisfying my curiosity. Any help would be great. Thanks

P1international 10-24-2010 05:21 AM

It makes you stretch your lower back muscles and improves your posture.

preptarra 10-24-2010 06:18 AM

Thanks Oroshi.
This answers my question.

TEFSADDERFISA 10-24-2010 07:29 AM

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It makes you stretch your lower back muscles and improves your posture.
Does it?

I remember Dave Lowry describing pseudo-Karateka in the 60s wearing hakama the wrong way around and claiming the koshi ita was protection for the hara! Maybe its actually to protect the hara from a rear attack.

soonahonsefalh 10-24-2010 02:47 PM

It was just the style of the clothing worn. Any other "purpose" has been made up after the fact.

ovH9wfSJ 10-24-2010 03:22 PM

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I remember Dave Lowry describing pseudo-Karateka in the 60s wearing hakama the wrong way around and claiming the koshi ita was protection for the hara! Maybe its actually to protect the hara from a rear attack.
I've heard this too, cracked me up laughing when I read it. I think there was a Bruce Lee film where the japanese badguys all wore their hakama backwards as well.

Fashion is a crazy thing and I can believe that it was "just the style of the clothing worn" It does seem rather unique to have a stiff panel at the back of your pants though and sometimes changes in clothing have a greater purpose than aesthetics I just wondered if there was a "story" to the Koshita.

kavaTeexy 10-24-2010 04:10 PM

Well in Buckaroo Banzai there's a backwards hakama. I guess that shows my film tastes.

dittygari 10-24-2010 05:25 PM

I have to admit, at the 1st time I wore my hakama and before some lectures from my senpai, I wore it backwards.. LOL

Trotoleterm 10-24-2010 06:36 PM

I think is just a design thing, to make the hakama to conserve its form, imagine a hakama without koshita, that would be mess. besides, ever wondered whats the purpose of the tie, or thats the purpose of the collar in a shirt??

infinkPoode 10-24-2010 06:43 PM

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I think is just a design thing, to make the hakama to conserve its form, imagine a hakama without koshita, that would be mess.
I have several of them. If you're not specifically looking for it, it's hard to notice the difference, between people who are wearing hakama with koshiita and those who are not.

9mm_fan 10-25-2010 01:10 AM

its something to make a nice noise for doing bunkai in things like...oroshi http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

occallExtet 10-25-2010 02:05 AM

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I've heard this too, cracked me up laughing when I read it. I think there was a Bruce Lee film where the japanese badguys all wore their hakama backwards as well.
I've heard that this was a deliberate act taken by the HK filmmakers to take the piss of the Japanese as they often liked to do. Successful troll is successful.

Tzqowwyt 10-25-2010 06:52 AM

My all time favorite!

DouseAuthott 10-25-2010 08:41 AM

topless and backward! LOL!!

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Gilowero 10-25-2010 09:09 AM

Does it count as topless if you are covered in hair?

Drysnyaty 10-25-2010 09:10 AM

That pic was not quite what I'd hoped for...

EnvellFen 10-25-2010 09:21 AM

A lot of Japanese period clothes for men featured stiffened material, like the shoulders on jinbaori, kamishimo, and those crazy big hats.

gymnAnemoe 10-25-2010 09:33 AM

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That pic was not quite what I'd hoped for...
me either.. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

vipBrooriErok 10-26-2010 02:20 AM

As to the purpose of the Koshii Ita.........who knows?

however;
I tell my Iaido students that if they cannot feel it they are leasning forwards;
If they feel it 'too much' they are leaning/arching backwards.

Perhaps it is there simply to make one consider the lower back [and, consequently, one's ''lower front''...] - - and, thus, one's posture.

w4WBthjv 10-26-2010 12:00 PM

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Does it count as topless if you are covered in hair?
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