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SarkisPioute 05-07-2012 07:26 PM

Rockets trade Lowry to Toronto
 
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
Source confirms that the Rockets have agreed to send Kyle Lowry to the Raptors for a future lottery pick, as reported by @WojYahooNBA

FelicitaJ 05-07-2012 07:31 PM

Guess the Rockets really believe that Jeremy Lin is their future at PG.

SarkisPioute 05-07-2012 07:31 PM

Not sure I really understand what Morey is doing this off-season.

SarkisPioute 05-07-2012 07:32 PM

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Guess the Rockets really believe that Jeremy Lin is their future at PG.
They must think they are landing him no question.

Hrennilasi 05-07-2012 07:34 PM

Nothing all that special about Lowry. They clear some cap space and get a future lottery pick? That sounds pretty good to me.

FelicitaJ 05-07-2012 07:35 PM

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They must think they are landing him no question.
I would assume they are. I can't see the Knicks matching 4 yr @ $30 million.

Since Dragic agreed to a deal with the Suns they really have no PG alternative that I can think of on their roster.

LSDDSL 05-07-2012 07:37 PM

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Nothing all that special about Lowry. They clear some cap space and get a future lottery pick? That sounds pretty good to me.
He can run a team and play premium defense. It's a good trade for Toronto. He fits with what their coach wants to do.

LSDDSL 05-07-2012 07:39 PM

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I would assume they are. I can't see the Knicks matching 4 yr @ $30 million.

Since Dragic agreed to a deal with the Suns they really have no PG alternative that I can think of on their roster.
The Knicks lost out on Nash, and Lin makes the team what they pay him back in marketing. They most likely match.

Now, Morey can decide that he needs Ridnour, and Kevin Martin is worth acquiring him....

LSDDSL 05-07-2012 07:40 PM

I do have to say, though...future lottery pick?

Is that assbackwards protection? We confer our pick on you ONLY if we miss the playoffs.

Hrennilasi 05-07-2012 07:42 PM

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He can run a team and play premium defense. It's a good trade for Toronto. He fits with what their coach wants to do.
He's certainly not a bad player. Unless Houston lands Howard, they're probably not going to do much this year. I don't see any point in keeping Lowry if they can get a good draft pick.

Metrujectiktus 05-07-2012 07:42 PM

At this point don't the Knicks need to sign Lin. Who is going to play point for that team. Fields is already gone.

Hrennilasi 05-07-2012 07:46 PM

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I do have to say, though...future lottery pick?

Is that assbackwards protection? We confer our pick on you ONLY if we miss the playoffs.
Is that what Houston demanded? Toronto probably sees the East opening up (though I'm not sure I agree) and that they could be in the playoffs for the next 3-4 years. So if they're trading a 2017 lottery pick, I guess it's really not all that bad.

I don't see Toronto making the playoffs anytime too soon though. Possibly . . . but Miami, Chicago, Indiana, Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Boston, New York, Milwaukee, Atlanta should all be ahead of them this year. I expect Cleveland to take a step forward this year as well. And even if they lose Howard, will Orlando get enough back to make them at least competitive?

Hrennilasi 05-07-2012 07:47 PM

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At this point don't the Knicks need to sign Lin. Who is going to play point for that team. Fields is already gone.
Isn't Andre Miller a free agent? Ramon Sessions opted out. Lou Williams is available. Delonte West, Derek Fisher, Raymond Felton.

There are some options -- some of them obviously worse than others.

(Not sure if any of those guys signed yet, but I'm sure some are still available.)

FelicitaJ 05-07-2012 07:47 PM

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The Knicks lost out on Nash, and Lin makes the team what they pay him back in marketing. They most likely match.

Now, Morey can decide that he needs Ridnour, and Kevin Martin is worth acquiring him....
This is a harder decision for the Knicks than they probably expected but they could match. The Rockets are going in a different direction (half-assed tanking aka youth movement+2 big contracts) after years of not contending for a title or a top 5 pick because he's put together such 8th seedish teams. I can't see them trading Martin for Ridnour.

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I do have to say, though...future lottery pick?

Is that assbackwards protection? We confer our pick on you ONLY if we miss the playoffs.
I would have to assume the writer just expects Toronto to be a lottery team next year.

FelicitaJ 05-07-2012 07:49 PM

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At this point don't the Knicks need to sign Lin. Who is going to play point for that team. Fields is already gone.
Fields is a RFA so the Knick could match his deal as well.

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Isn't Andre Miller a free agent? Ramon Sessions opted out. Lou Williams is available. Delonte West, Derek Fisher, Raymond Felton.

There are some options -- some of them obviously worse than others.

(Not sure if any of those guys signed yet, but I'm sure some are still available.)
Miller has already agreed to re-sign. Williams and Felton are to expensive for the Knicks (Sessions may be ass well). West andFisher are not starter material.

LSDDSL 05-07-2012 08:11 PM

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Fields is a RFA so the Knick could match his deal as well.



Miller has already agreed to re-sign. Williams and Felton are to expensive for the Knicks (Sessions may be ass well). West andFisher are not starter material.
Doesn't mean they won't try....

LSDDSL 05-07-2012 08:14 PM

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This is a harder decision for the Knicks than they probably expected but they could match. The Rockets are going in a different direction (half-assed tanking aka youth movement+2 big contracts) after years of not contending for a title or a top 5 pick because he's put together such 8th seedish teams. I can't see them trading Martin for Ridnour.



I would have to assume the writer just expects Toronto to be a lottery team next year.
Nope, assbackwards.

Of course, the Raptors might be best off making sure the Rockets get that pick next year, when the draft is likely to be ultra-weak.

LSDDSL 05-07-2012 08:18 PM

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Is that what Houston demanded? Toronto probably sees the East opening up (though I'm not sure I agree) and that they could be in the playoffs for the next 3-4 years. So if they're trading a 2017 lottery pick, I guess it's really not all that bad.

I don't see Toronto making the playoffs anytime too soon though. Possibly . . . but Miami, Chicago, Indiana, Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Boston, New York, Milwaukee, Atlanta should all be ahead of them this year. I expect Cleveland to take a step forward this year as well. And even if they lose Howard, will Orlando get enough back to make them at least competitive?
I think Atlanta and Orlando drop out of the playoffs this year. Chicago may as well.

Raptors have a nice talent influx coming this year, and a byproduct of that is that Bargnani won't be playing center anymore. Raptors have more talent than Cleveland, and while not as deep as deep as Milwaukee, probably more pure talent than they have as well. Washington may make a push to get to purgatory as well.

netamargr 05-08-2012 02:05 AM

randy wittman is the wizards coach, they're not going anywhere

standaman 05-08-2012 02:11 AM

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Nothing all that special about Lowry. They clear some cap space and get a future lottery pick? That sounds pretty good to me.
bite your finger.


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