http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...notthatway.gif technical aspects in his films ellam quite good..though not hollywood range but definitely the best in india..in fact he moves the INDIAN film industry forward..

Bad performance, poor script, half-baked technical aspect, Hollywood wannabe-ness, spending shitload of money just for song sequence, sure sure he's pushing Indian film industry forward over the cliff.

what forward is miskin taking when he copies scene to scene from kurusowa's kikujiro?

to me, hindi cinema......

shanghai, GOW peaks untouched......but whether Anurag/Dibakar are hindi cinema or bollywood is a big question to be answered.......

tamil cinema has made huge strides forward though........aadukalam was the best in past 2 yrs......thadayara thakka, VTV, kalavani, aaranya kaandam were extremely well made movies.......even movies like vaagai sooda vaa, naan, kaadhalil sodhapavadhu eppadi, Endhiran and some other movies show lot of promise with its flashes of brilliance......

enakku adhu kooda theriyaadhu but matter ennaana japan-lerndhu ctrl-c panni, TN-la ctrl-v pannitta taking forward-aa?

with initial reviews, we are seeing myshkin is struggling in shankar territory - mugathula molachha mugamudi......

Shankar was absolutely spot on with Endhiran - i think he cannot be pointed out for taking tamil cinema back..........all these madurai, theni, tirunelveli dhaadi-dhaavani, extreme slang-ed directors escape the criticism.......to me they are the biggest impediments.......tamil cinema has to move out of madurai to move forward.......

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Yudhdham Sei, AnjAdhE-ku kooda vengaLa kiNNam lEdhA?

Unselected. TV-la pala language-la pAthirukkEn. kadaisi arai maNi nEram thavira perma-cringe that movie is. ukkAdhu pAkka mudiyalainnaa..

Combine paNNi imagine paNNEn http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ymlol.gif
Actually maduraikkum puNNiyamA pOgum.

Shanghai - onnum periya thillalangadi ellam illa.

GOW - Acting/making/humor/meesic wise they have made very good strides. But even that film suffers from Godfather influences. Idhu influenzaa ellam ungalukku theriyaliya maddy??

influenza http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/ymlol.gif

obviously, all art works are influenced one way or another......but obviously there is a difference between M.Raja and maniratnam rite? compare GOW with similarly made subaramanipuram.........

Overall I agree Hindi (can we call it parallel cinema??) has made great strides. GOW, TZP, DCH ellam arputham. 3I, Kaminey, RDB ellam personal favorites. Vicky donor madhiri pudhu idea lam edukuraanga. Idhu enaku therinja mattum.

Aana unga aale(Kashyap) Tamil cinema va thooki vechu kondaduraaru. I myself was very much surprised.

obviously, i like Anjadhe and planning to watch mugamoodi tommmorow - Myskin is very good but taking a dark movie or movies with dhaadi, village stories are taken as masterpieces by default.......taking forward ellam romba saadharanama use panraanga...

hahaha yes.....its a untrue representation of that region.......

too much conpees with myshkin and madurai trio...
myshkin is not too much inclined on madurai and dhaadi heroes... atleast he is trying diff genres...
anjadhe-YS, nandhalala, now MM are all variety no?

imo, mysh defly taking the industry forward in his own way... and shankar does the same in his own way with the genre he is famous for... infact he is the one who constantly expanding the reach of indian/tamil movies... becos of which the myshkin/trio/other directors movies are able to reach those territories easily...

sappAn-la ellAm oNNu dhaan
neenga kitano, dakilo, Ozu, bosu 'mbeenga. adhukkAga adhaiyellAm kaNakku vachchukka mudiyumA.
adhu mAmbazham, idhu vAzhappazham...aanaa prachanai ellAm oNNu dhaan.

Different films. Shot by shot'lam kedaiyadhE. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/icon_lol.gif

Ah...then fine. nEkku adhu theriyAdhE.

Maddy's just hurt after what Grouch had to say about Sangar..

I was sent a video of Sangar's influences for Endhiran, from Making Mr. Right to Amazon battery Ad, or what have you. Still doesn't diminish the achievement in my eyes. Also this is no Meesik for a 'theft'. Films could never be plagiarized in simple-minded terms as literature/meesik. It's like painting/play, it's always an interpretation.

aww...

illeeng. unga intention therinjikkalaamEnu dhaan. I think you are not a fan of Hindi cinema and you just watch thamizh/malayalam films. So neenga idhai edhukku start pannineenga, edhunaa reason irukkaa-nnu...

Very good thread Joe. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/thumbsup.gif

Thamizh film industry is way way ahead compared to other film industries. Not saying just because I am thamizh, In last few years we have seen some excellent films and new concepts which other film industry can only gaze at us. Even the likes of young directors like Anurag Kashyap accepted the influence of our films in his films. Not just novel concepts, but technically also our films are way better than the rest. In terms of versatility, right from the roots to commercial to drama to comedy to sci-fi, we are making big strides forward. Again in terms of music, there is no comparison. This aspect is a big compromise in every other film industry. We have some hugely talented directors (not just one or two) like no other.

Three main concerns I have from our industry is we don't have much female oriented subjects, like we had in the past. They are just showbiz nowadays. Defintely should curtail the violence in our films which are way too much compared to other film industries, a sort of setback I would say. This is the biggest of all, should try to avoid making remakes, sort of embarrassing. Other than that, way to go. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/thumbsup.gif