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Old 01-10-2012, 07:13 AM   #21
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Mokkaiyo pukkaiyo, theaterila 3 padam sakka pottathu.... intha kaalathila 2 vetri padam edukkurathe kashtam...

and back to Attakathi.. trailer is really boring... the promo song .. whish is a Viral video isnt impressive either...some amateurs made a cool version of Evandi Unna pethan... learn from them...
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:04 PM   #22
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yea seriously gonna take that last line and see how the songs fare.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:36 AM   #23
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http://www.muzigle.com/track/aasi-oru-pulveli

The songs are good. I am liking it, maybe because Santhosh is my friend... Plz share your opinion guys...
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:12 AM   #24
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Very good, I say! Super stuff for a debutant MD! Some raw Chennai local flavour songs and couple of lovely acoustic (just what the doctor ordered!) melodies where ARR/Amit Trivedi influence can be felt, but that doesn’t take away much from the composer.

My pick is Vazhi Parthirundhen - super guitars, loved the chords; nice singing, very pleasant song.

Aasai oru pulveli – beautiful soft rock number. Again very nice guitars and nice flute as well. Is Pradeep a debutant? Chap’s got a bright future for sure. The ARR touch in this one is more evident and I kept sliding off into Naan Varuven.

The folk songs are good fun and lively which is exactly what they should be. Thaara thappata kizhinjing! Nadukadalula has a nice Chandrababu tinge to it.

Podi vechchu pudippaan – the only song that felt like a standard popular number, made for the market kind. Atleast there isn’t any autotune here, so it’s fine!

Long live acoustic music! Death to electronically fornicated music!

Here’s wishing the very best for the team!
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:39 AM   #25
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Just realized I'd missed one song in the playlist - aadi pona aavani. Glad I heard it now. The format is very interesting - harmonium backed gana singing with tabla for support and keeping these company are guitar chords and bass in the background. Awesome!
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:23 AM   #26
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Good to hear that KV! I tried to listen but the its takes too much time to buffer.

Long live acoustic music! Death to electronically fornicated music!
There is nothing acoustics or lively performance anymore. Its all the sound and recording quality matters now. This is the typical attitude (sorry to use that word) which I hate to hear and got involved in several combats offering explanation. I am sure even this score's composer would feel very bad about yours choice of words as they are also very important to their music today.

Any sound that goes thru a microphone and comes out of speaker has some kind of electronic transformation. A touch of harmoinum key or a pull of guitar string goes through that process. Like so many other instruments. Even if you are attending a carnatic/qawwali/concert, a listener from the last rack of an auditorium can complain about the quality for not being lively. nam vaaiyil irunthu varum vaarthaigalum sari kai thattalin sathamum sari kaatroda/pollution-oda kalanthu thaan varudhu.

As a longtime music lover with two pair of ordinary ears and no musical knowledge, I listen to all types music from crap (?!) to classical its all the tune, music and lyrics matter to me and most importantly to see how others conceives that song.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:41 AM   #27
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contn.

some may find it interesting and that sound may rejuvenates their mood. ungalukku pudikalana vozhinji ponnu solradhu nalla illai.

Listened to Udumban songs very bizare stuff, not so easy to ears and gives an outdated feel. Unless you pay lot of attention (+HH/SM fan) and well promoted these songs are not going to stay. Still a good listen and I need to listen more

Mukesh two short versions are raw and he has a ganeer kural.
Vaanukku Nilavu is a lovely ride
First 3 songs are also fairly listenable.

I heard Marina songs are also good.

All these 3 albums are from debutant's and their hard work shows well.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:22 PM   #28
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(just what the doctor ordered!)
Another funny rebuke even his sons don't take seriously. Only fans keep harping about it and they forget often that is just another drop in the ocean of world music which can be easily scrutinized for its purity/content.

Music is a very subjective issue differs from person to person and time to time. The song which appeals to you today may not be the same tomorrow and the next day you may unfold some surprise.

A proficient kanjeera player and the composer of VKK & Kullanari Koottam Mr. Selvaganesh loves to have a student like Tom
http://yfrog.com/08t5psz

/End Dign

If anyone comes across a link to listen Marina & Attakathi songs please let me know. Thanks!
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:55 PM   #29
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Scale, for starters does acoustic drum kits/ synth drum kits sound the same? their lies the difference..
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:45 AM   #30
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Scale, sorry, but in reference to what I’d written, neenga engyo poitgeenga saar! Let me try to explain again.

By electronic music, what I essentially mean is the big umbrella of ‘electronic pop’ and the various sub-genres that took birth under it. To me, electronic pop killed the musician and created the ‘music star’. Here’s why I think so. We’ll need to go back a long way to elaborately lay out what I have in mind, so here's the warning for a long post ahead.

The first logical classification of music would be vocal and instrumental where the latter can be split further into string (guitar, violin, piano, etc), wind (flute, saxophone, trumpet, etc) and percussion (drums, tabla, mrudangam, etc). Back in the days of pure acoustic music (not electric or electronic support whatsoever), every musician/performer had to know his music - to sing/to play his instrument – which was the primary and mandatory requisite. Then came electric amplification. This just helped in increasing the volume, quite literally, and offered little help otherwise to the musicians. The electric guitar, that was the next big thing, was in a way, another form of sound amplification, and the required music skills didn’t change. One fine day someone discovered that the sound emanating from the guitar could be distorted and that made way for guitar ‘effects’ - patches and distortion types that made the guitar sound different. But again, this was just another ‘output modulation’. You couldn’t stand with an electric guitar in hand, clad in tight leather outfit sporting a flowing hairdo and expect the guitar to do everything. Nothing would happen. You had to know to play it, else we’d have had a million Hendrix and half a million Claptons by now. Parallelly, the piano saw similar developments as it morphed from its strings avtar to electronic form. But the early electronic keyboards were similar to the electric guitar with effects, wherein you could play the same instrument and make it sound different. But the keyboard advancement wouldn’t just stop there (unlike the guitar in which the electric guitar is still the most ‘latest’ variety even after 3 or 4 decades of its invention). Science gave us the ‘synthesizer’, the thing that was to change the course and dynamics of music thereafter. For the first time musicality took a beating and ‘sounds’ (as opposed to musical notes) started gaining importance. We’re still talking of the 60s and 70s. Musicians began exploring ways of incorporating these new sounds with their music. Think Floyd and the sounds of animals and cash registers. But this was more or less used as an add-on feature in addition to the guitars and drums and other instruments which was still their ‘main’ music. Floyd, though they might be famous for popularizing this culture, had the best of guitarists in the form of Gilmour and a top notch drummer in Mason. Their songs wouldn’t probably have stood the test of time with just the ‘sounds’ had it not been for the brilliant guitaring and singing in them. The other forms of music were yet to fully embrace this technology and genres like classical, jazz, rock, heavy metal still stuck to their respective conventional styles - just raw musical capabilities, many a times, combined with showmanship.

Come the 90s and this new wave of electronic pop took up centerstage. Synthesizers advanced further. Tribal drums - button 1, disco beat - button 2: ‘ready to eat’ packages of this sort started evolving. You didn’t need any real musical talent to run a show. If you could kinda manage your singing, you could pass off as a popstar because the rest was all synthesized music mostly. The band didn’t even need to have a guitarist or a drummer. The type of instruments didn't really matter - wind/string/percussion, they were all the same, just another button. The trend then spread like wildfire from then on till date. Technology has made people lazy and creating music is no longer reserved only for the musically talented. This democracy, like in digital photography, is fine at one level, for it gives many people a sense of achievement and makes them happy. But popularity taking on talent’s mantle is tragic in every sense. How many artists currently in the popular music scene are capable singers or instrumentalists? Auto-tune, voice modulation, packaged instrumental bits, loops, the list of facilities are endless. One just has to know how to use (as opposed to play) them, which is why every tom dick and harry today is a music star. Where is real musical talent in this? On the other hand, there still are talented musicians who take the effort to learn music and believe in giving non-gimmicky performances. Thanks to this, genres like classical and jazz have managed to retain most of its charm.

Coming to film music, how many of our composers/musicians nowadays are really musically talented or knowledgeable? To gauge a musician or composer’s talent, an easy indicator is his ability to play or effectively utilize instruments (that require musical ability to play) – classical instruments live Violin or Veenai or acoustic instruments like guitar/flutes/trumpets or percussions like acoustic drums or Indian drums. Take the Coke Studio concept for example. Most of the musicians there are really talented and they make/play similar kind of popular music. This is what I want our film music to progress towards. Recording these instruments and then tweaking their sound electronically is what your referring to. This isn’t really an issue, rather, it’s the previous stage that I’m talking about.

When I say acoustic, let me list some songs that I have in mind – cry cry ithna cry (jhoota hi sahi), kannadi nee (mangaatha), Roshini (admissions open). The effect and ‘feel’ of live/acoustic instruments in these songs, in my books, are unmatched by any synth sounds. Encouraging such songs/technique will help in breeding a musically talented and good quality environment. Digitalization of all aspects of composing/music making has resulted in dismal quality of music and musicians in the recent years. It is in dire hopelessness of the continuing and growing popularity of this trend that makes me condemn digitalization of music making/composition. And I will stick by my stand - digitalization be damned.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:54 AM   #31
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Another funny rebuke even his sons don't take seriously.
yaara saar sollringa? Raaja-viya? Naan avarayum vittu vekkalaye. Raaja threadliye naan idha paththi azhudhurkken, thitteerken.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:09 AM   #32
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Its going to be far more competitive than before you won't find a place even if you belong to any of Mr.Incredible's family. I was surprised to find almost 20-25 composers last year.
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Old 01-13-2012, 03:14 AM   #33
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KV, nice writeup

Asai oru Pulveli/Vazhi Parathirundhen can easily pass off as a track in VTV. Pradeep/Kalyani were part of the Harmonize Projekt which went viral in Youtube for good reasons have seen them play in Chennai with drummer Darbuka Siva..Keba Jeremiah is their lead guitarist and AR had him strumming for quite a few songs in Rockstar...


Pradeep/Kalyani in Uravugal thodarkadhai cover





Pradeep/Kalyani crooning Kandukondein kandukondein which went viral in Youtube..from 3.45 to 4.03 bliss...cans needed to hear the bass clearly//
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Old 01-13-2012, 03:40 AM   #34
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Attakathi Theatrical Trailer
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:59 AM   #35
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Looking at the credits except podivechi pudippan I guess/see this as a more collaborative effort rather giving full credits to the debutant composer. Good luck next time.

Band Music - Band Kuberan & Band Murali (are the local bands playing the peepee and mela thaalams)

Aadi pona Aavani & Nadukadalula Kappala:- Gana Bala
Adi yen Gana Mayil - Ayinjivakkam Muthu

All the above 3 Ganas are raw and very authentic could be their tune/concept and the composer did the arrangement like vaazhameenukkum velangumeenukkum.

Aasai oru pulveli & Vazhi Parthirunthen: Praveen & Kalyani Now wizzy throws in a swagger of information. This is truly their sound and harmonizing part doesn't leave any doubt.

Podi vechi pudippan - Leaves no impact. Very Substandard stuff.
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Old 01-22-2012, 04:30 PM   #36
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Looking at the credits except podivechi pudippan I guess/see this as a more collaborative effort rather giving full credits to the debutant composer. Good luck next time.

Band Music - Band Kuberan & Band Murali (are the local bands playing the peepee and mela thaalams)

Aadi pona Aavani & Nadukadalula Kappala:- Gana Bala
Adi yen Gana Mayil - Ayinjivakkam Muthu

All the above 3 Ganas are raw and very authentic could be their tune/concept and the composer did the arrangement like vaazhameenukkum velangumeenukkum.

Aasai oru pulveli & Vazhi Parthirunthen: Praveen & Kalyani Now wizzy throws in a swagger of information. This is truly their sound and harmonizing part doesn't leave any doubt.

Podi vechi pudippan - Leaves no impact. Very Substandard stuff.
Athu Pradeep nga, avanum enga junior thaan, romba aniyaayama pesareenga... , Ghana vena naa othukaren, its a team effort nu but Aasai or pulveli and Vazhi Parthirunthen ellam neenga Santhosh ku credit kudukala na enna nyayam nga, rite ok... naa onniyum solla virumbala...
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Old 01-22-2012, 04:56 PM   #37
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@scale MD is a debutant..pliss to give him some breathing space.

@Kalyasi got the cd..was Santhosh part of any band//
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