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Old 03-30-2009, 10:33 PM   #21
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OK guys, what do you think of this comment: Surya is Mom & Pops actor. He is safe, secure, no police records actor. He is the dude you want to bring home and your parents will not worry if the cutleries are going to go missing.

In short, he is not risky, will avoid risque (heard he didn't want to be too intimate in Varanam Ayiram) and we are not going to see anything original in him. He is the Siva Kumar of our generation, the kind of actor, when in conversation during tea time, you go, "He is a good actor", and everyone goes, "yeah, yeah, he is, he is indeed", and silence. No debates, no introspective on the layers of performances he has given, no retrospective revision of past bad performances.

As mentioned before, he "acts". He does not throw himself into the role, to the point that it either moves us or even embarasses us. He is there, like a recently erected monument that may or may not be there. He has some use but how long, who knows?

Surya is a stand in. The risky stuff he did has been done before. Hunchback? That is Malayalam remake. Pithamagan? Only, because Vikram is inferior to him. Varanam Ayiram? I don't know, because he was never impressive earlier in the first place.
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:38 PM   #22
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Hehe, NOV. May I know who wrote that? Where was this found? :P
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:39 PM   #23
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Thats unmistakably Groucho
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:41 PM   #24
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OK guys, what do you think of this comment: Surya is Mom & Pops actor. He is safe, secure, no police records actor. He is the dude you want to bring home and your parents will not worry if the cutleries are going to go missing.

In short, he is not risky, will avoid risque (heard he didn't want to be too intimate in Varanam Ayiram) and we are not going to see anything original in him. He is the Siva Kumar of our generation, the kind of actor, when in conversation during tea time, you go, "He is a good actor", and everyone goes, "yeah, yeah, he is, he is indeed", and silence. No debates, no introspective on the layers of performances he has given, no retrospective revision of past bad performances.

As mentioned before, he "acts". He does not throw himself into the role, to the point that it either moves us or even embarasses us. He is there, like a recently erected monument that may or may not be there. He has some use but how long, who knows?

Surya is a stand in. The risky stuff he did has been done before. Hunchback? That is Malayalam remake. Pithamagan? Only, because Vikram is inferior to him. Varanam Ayiram? I don't know, because he was never impressive earlier in the first place.
yaar andha aaraichiyalar????...deep-a analyse pannirukaru!!!(sorry groucho -this was written before knowing it was u...i thought someone from the other camp...hehe)

surya chocolate hero moms hero,pops hero apdinu soldradhu - a sort of "ULKUTHU" - its normally from the sides of other younger generation actors vavutheruchal,porama etsa etsa etsa - as he is having the fans among both the guys and girls and uncles and sunties.

he "acts" -pinna kaasu vangitu nadikama irukak mudiyuma?...mathavanga maadhiri

DOesnot throw himself into the rolea?.... apdina
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:43 PM   #25
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Thanks NOV. Always obliged to join healthy discussion.

My correction-ya

OK guys, what do you think of this comment: Surya is Mom & Pops actor. He is safe, secure, no police records actor. He is the dude you want to bring home and your parents will not worry if the cutleries are going to go missing.

In short, he is not risky, will avoid risque (heard he didn't want to be too intimate in Varanam Ayiram) and we are not going to see anything original in him. He is the Siva Kumar of our generation, the kind of actor, when in conversation during tea time, you go, "He is a good actor", and everyone goes, "yeah, yeah, he is, he is indeed", and silence. No debates, no introspective on the layers of performances he has given, no retrospective revision of past bad performances.

As mentioned before, he "acts". He does not throw himself into the role, to the point that it either moves us or even embarasses us. He is there, like a recently erected monument that may or may not be needed there. He has some use but how long, who knows?

Surya is a stand in. The risky stuff he did has been done before. Hunchback? That is Malayalam remake. Pithamagan? Only, because Vikram is inferior to him. Varanam Ayiram? I don't know, because he was never impressive earlier in the first place.
Ignore the other typos and grammatical mishtakes.
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:46 PM   #26
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yaar andha aaraichiyalar????
adhu mukkiyammillai, message thaan mukkiyam.

I quite disagree with the points in the message as I believe Surya has grown from film to film. See his first and VA and you can gauge the immense growth in his skills.

As for doing what others have done, that statement will fit anyone. You only have one Kamal and one Sivaji. Who knows what is there in future?

After Kamal, its only Surya who is holding my attention for now.
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:50 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Vivasaayi yaar andha aaraichiyalar????
adhu mukkiyammillai, message thaan mukkiyam.

I quite disagree with the points in the message as I believe Surya has grown from film to film. See his first and VA and you can gauge the immense growth in his skills.

As for doing what others have done, that statement will fit anyone. You only have one Kamal and one Sivaji. Who knows what is there in future?

After Kamal, its only Surya who is holding my attention for now. Not just urs
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Old 03-30-2009, 10:54 PM   #28
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Surya is a stand in. The risky stuff he did has been done before. Hunchback? That is Malayalam remake. Pithamagan? Only, because Vikram is inferior to him. Varanam Ayiram? I don't know, because he was never impressive earlier in the first place. Why should an actor do a risky stuff?[yarume idhu varai panna muyarchi pannadha types]
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:33 PM   #29
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Hd to choose between Mayavi and VA, voted for VA (Phone booth scene and anjala song)
Same here - poll'a pArtha udana click aanathu MayavithAn and got interrupted by VA. Aazhntha sinthanaikku pin - voted for Mayavi. His performance in Mayavi changed my perceptions about him completely and he has not disappointed me since then.

I cannot imagine any contemporaries in Mayavi or Pithamagan other than Surya. For that matter even in VA. Ennudaiya thaazhmaiyAna apiprAyam.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:59 AM   #30
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Surya is perhaps the only hero who could be seen as a complete package.

romance,comedy,action,sentiment and tolerable even in masala movies.

And he can be funny and romantic both like sanjay ramaswamy and sakthi or balayya - some of them could have done sanjay ramaswamy even better but they could never have did sakthi or balayya like surya IMO.

And Mounam pesiyadhe and nandha - quite unromantic,unchocolatey and angry young man roles .

He could be charming and chocolatey like varanam aayiram (young surya)

Can do eccentric roles like gajni without making the audience squirm n the chair.

Regarding surya not coming out of comfort zone

There are lots of comfort zones for him as I have mentioned above - so its hard for people to expect him to come ou of the comfort zone which he did in varanam aayiram - the only guy who had the guts to do an oldie.

And whenever he came out of his comfort zone in his career - people dint have the feeling that he was actually out of his comfort zone as he pulled it off quite convincingly.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:13 AM   #31
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நந்தா -வுக்கு முன்னால நானெல்லாம் "இந்த சிவகுமார் பையன் தேறுறது ரொம்ப கஷ்டம்" -னு நினைச்சேன் .ஆனால் இப்போ சூர்யா இந்த அளவுக்கு வந்து நிக்குறதுக்கு அவர் கடின உழைப்பும் ,சாதிக்கணும் என்ற ஆர்வமும் தான் காரணம்.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:13 AM   #32
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I actually enjoyed the somewhat subdued performance [except for the song and dance portions - especially AdAtha AttamellAm] in Mounam PEsiyathE. So athukku oru vote.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:54 AM   #33
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He infact doesnt use any titles for him inspite of being among the top 4.
This, in and of itself, has become the placeholder for the absent title. It's quite the PR (not Prabhu Ram) master-stroke I must say.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:59 AM   #34
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Surya is a misfit in masala films. Watched a few scenes from Vel last week and he was so embarassingly bad in that.

He is not yet there to be talked in the same breath of Sivaji & Kamal.
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:03 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by Vivasaayi He infact doesnt use any titles for him inspite of being among the top 4.
This, in and of itself, has become the placeholder for the absent title. It's quite the PR (not Prabhu Ram) master-stroke I must say. Well, I am not sure. I am surprised complicateur takes such a cynical view!
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:03 AM   #36
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I dont want to make comparisons between Surya and others. But Surya makes me watch movies like Vel, if only on television.
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:10 AM   #37
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I was driving by T-Nagar this evening and saw a board that said manitha nEyan SuryA raigar manRam. (naanga mattum peNgaLai enna naayaava madhikkiROm) EdhAchchu oru title kuduththE theervainga pOla...
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:11 AM   #38
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I dont want to make comparisons between Surya and others. But Surya makes me watch movies like Vel, if only on television.
Missed to add "..with useful remote on hand" ?
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:19 AM   #39
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Joe,
The salient point is others are not afforded even that opportunity
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:27 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by complicateur Originally Posted by Vivasaayi He infact doesnt use any titles for him inspite of being among the top 4.
This, in and of itself, has become the placeholder for the absent title. It's quite the PR (not Prabhu Ram) master-stroke I must say. Well, I am not sure. I am surprised complicateur takes such a cynical view! en kErettarayE purinjikka mAtturIngaLE! It isnt so much cynicism as fatigue associated with his over-exposure. His interviews point to him being more of an emotional actor than a cerebral one. In the words of Seinfeld - "Not that there's anything wrong with that".
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