[Ifroham4]

1000-il 1, Kaadhalikka Neramillai in the list and Johnny won't feature

Blasphemy alert - uLLaththai aLLiththaa >> Kaadhalikka Neramillai.

[brraverishhh]

If interested, we shall take it to a new thread 'Golden Period of Tamil Cinema '

[Paul Bunyan]

irundhudhE! If Rajapaarvai had won and SKV lost, distributors would have been more lenient to his indulgences, illaiyA? Opportunity cost-pA!

But that's very hypothetical. Kamal might argue that he'd have never done an SKV had 'rAja pArvai' done well. But is that really true? May be, he'd eventually have, when the next 'rAja pArvai' from his stable failed!

[Beerinkol]

Yes, it delayed Kamal by 7-8 years in pursuit of a certain type of Cinema. Who knows? Marudhanayagam might have happened earlier?
(Considering that ALAvandhAn was written in early 80's, there is a huge gulf between his mind and the average movie he churned out in 80's)

[PhillipHer]

//60s is the Golden Period of Tamil Cinema//

Brother NOV,

Can you please list 10 good films of 60's with Artist Name, MD, Lyricsist & Director's name which I may not aware of. I absolutely adore these giants (+KVM/Vaali...) and have no doubt on what you say but I would like to judge by the quality of films.

app_

Though you didn't intend to draw a decade comparison it sounds that you are more likely devoted to Raaja' entry. Well that doesn't emphasize anything late 70's & early 80'snu solrathukku pathila 80's la Raaja/Mahendran's/BR pottu paarkalam.
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[PhillipHer]

NK
Mahendran & IR வாழ்க

Makes one think whether some of kurumbus in post-marriage-MR movies had his wife's inputs...

Also re-emphasizes the fact that the best movies in TF happened in late 70's / early 80's

yep!

[Lillie_Steins]

I can certainly see it if we talk about 60's being the golden age for music, lyrics etc. Although I, along with app, might consider 70's for that also, one can see why 60's can be held as the pinnacle for music as well. Lyrics - well, there cant be any doubt, Kannadasan strides like a colossus and his peak IS TFM's peak on lyrics

But what I cant see is the 60's being the pinnacle for movies. A colossal waste of Sivaji's talent is the theme of 60's tamil filmdom. If we didnt have NT, then we can justify the kind of standards we had in 60's, but the fact that with such a talent on board, TF only managed to churn out what it did is a shame.
Dont get me wrong NOV, I will watch many of those movies with relish now but to call them the golden age is quite taking it too far. Mahendran is really the peak of Tamil Cinema. And he has never got enough credit for that.

[NeroASERCH]

And what a waste that Mahendran didnt have a role for Sivaji Ganesan although NT was active and kicking in the late 70s and early 80's. I wonder if the people around NT pushing him into meaningless sandhippus and the like were the reason for this. Maybe MS can clarify.
I cant believe that Mahendran didnt even think of doing a movie with NT.

(Btw, I do know about thangapadhakkam )

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

A colossal waste of Sivaji's talent is the theme of 60's tamil filmdom. If we didnt have NT, then we can justify the kind of standards we had in 60's, but the fact that with such a talent on board, TF only managed to churn out what it did is a shame.
Dont get me wrong NOV, I will watch many of those movies with relish now but to call them the golden age is quite taking it too far. Mahendran is really the peak of Tamil Cinema. And he has never got enough credit for that.

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agree on each and every word except i would add maniratnam/bahrathiraja/balu mahendra "creating" at the same time period along with mahendran as the peak of tamil cinema.....highest peak that cant be scaled again IMO

[brraverishhh]

agree on each and every word except i would add maniratnam/bahrathiraja/balu mahendra "creating" at the same time period along with mahendran as the peak of tamil cinema.....highest peak that cant be scaled again IMO

+1.

[Ifroham4]

Originally Posted by Plum A colossal waste of Sivaji's talent is the theme of 60's tamil filmdom. If we didnt have NT, then we can justify the kind of standards we had in 60's, but the fact that with such a talent on board, TF only managed to churn out what it did is a shame.
Dont get me wrong NOV, I will watch many of those movies with relish now but to call them the golden age is quite taking it too far. Mahendran is really the peak of Tamil Cinema. And he has never got enough credit for that.

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agree on each and every word except i would add maniratnam/bahrathiraja/balu mahendra "creating" at the same time period along with mahendran as the peak of tamil cinema.....highest peak that cant be scaled again IMO KB illaama 70's and 80's'aa .... peak of tamil cinema'va ?

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

guys, we can never come to a consensus on this one as each of us have our own standards.
a person (much) older than me would probably consider MKT days as the best.

I posted that in response to a_e to actually pinpoint this.

[NeroASERCH]

app_
Though you didn't intend to draw a decade comparison it sounds that you are more likely devoted to Raaja' entry. Well that doesn't emphasize anything late 70's & early 80'snu solrathukku pathila 80's la Raaja/Mahendran's/BR pottu paarkalam.

Scale,
I posted in another thread about my "movie-watching-sabbatical" from 76 to 81 save a lone dharam-veer That way, though I got immensely attached to Raja's music in those years, my interactions with on-screen stuff was nil

I've revisited some of those classics over the years - actually still visiting , seen uthirippookkaL & NK only in the last 10 days, yet to watch muLL-malar, haven't watched avaL app etc. OTOH, I have watched a good % of BR, BM, MR movies as well as the yesteryear classics like the 'pA' series movies of Bheemsingh and other acclaimed Shivaji movies of 60's. Those are great movies, phenomenal music no doubt but the offerings of Mahendran are a class altogether different, superior!

Watching three within a short span of time - UP, Johny & NK within a span of 10 days - has kind of changed my perception of TF history and I'm at awe with this colossal talent called Mahendran These are Padmarajan kind of stuff, for which there are equivalents only in MF, IMO.

[softy54534]

Also, now I seem to understand why many consider SKV as the biggest blow to TF quality

[Peptobismol]

a person (much) older than me would probably consider MKT days as the best.

[Beerinkol]

I was revisiting pAsamalar a couple of days back (a movie which drained the eyes completely the first time I watched in the college audi).

20 years older now, while I still find it impressive and the on-screen performances phenomenal, as a movie there are a lot of speed breakers, boring stuff, sudden switch to "senthamizh" sounding funny etc. In other words, there are a lot of avoidable stuff

Sure, there are such "compromises" in UP (kalyANam pAru) / Johny (Asaya kAththula thoothu vittu) / NK (mummy pEru mAri), but they seem to be the minimum.

Well, let me watch muLL-malar & avaL app & then continue this discussion

[Peptobismol]

Brother NOV,

Brother Thulaabaram, if you are really interested in the gems of the 60s, please go thru the list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_films_of_the_1960s

Originally Posted by NOV a person (much) older than me would probably consider MKT days as the best.

well, technically, you are much older than me.
btw, I have yet to open the plastic foil of the CD you gave me.

.... In other words, there are a lot of avoidable stuff

in that case, lets talk abt Mahnedram in 2030 :P
I doubt I will be alive to see you change your opinion

[radikal]

NOV One of the finest voices of all time.

[LottiFurmann]

NOV One of the finest voices of all time.

Possibly.
I may recognise it when I reach your age, if at all I reach it.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

NOV,
மாறிமாறி வரும் என் போன்றோரின் ஒப்பீனியன்களைப்படிப்பதற்காக நீர் குறைந்தது இன்னும் ஐம்பது ஆண்டுகள் ஹப் வரும்படியாக, இதோ, பிடியும் சாபம்

P_R,
Sure golden voice (i.e. my dad's most preferred)

However, to sit through original version of haridAs won't be quite easy (not anymore, not even for my dad)