[9mm_fan]

patha vekkireengalE groucho

[MannoFr]

moonu mani neram pure Entertainment kku varavanga jAsthiyA ... illa moonu mani neram pAthAlum adhula vishayam irukkanum nnu varavanga jAsthiyA ?

Ethu jaasthinu solla therla. But, nowadays, audiences have fixed perception in their mindset. Speaking of x, Oh, avar padathula kandippA ethAvathu vishayam irukum. OTOH, speaking of y,Oh, ivar padanggal pure entertaining-A irukkum.

[TorryJens]

Originally Posted by MADDY i think we need to define class here.......if i say Mitya, DevD, Omkara then none of our movies can stand

naanum korean,iran'la irundhu 4 movies pEru sonnEnaa, then Mitya, DevD, Omkara all can't stand'nga

Wn we are speaking in Tamil film section, edhukku paalaa pOna bollywood(xerox copy of hollywood ) ellaam No yA. AFAIC DevD, Kadhal. Classic and Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind are all in the same league.
GM: reNdum oNNu thAnE da kozappureengaLE dA!
(ippO engErundhu Class vs. mass-la BW v KW vandhuchu?)

[9mm_fan]

Originally Posted by bingleguy moonu mani neram pure Entertainment kku varavanga jAsthiyA ... illa moonu mani neram pAthAlum adhula vishayam irukkanum nnu varavanga jAsthiyA ?

Ethu jaasthinu solla therla. But, nowadays, audiences have fixed perception in their mindset. Speaking of x, Oh, avar padathula kandippA ethAvathu vishayam irukum. OTOH, speaking of y,Oh, ivar padanggal pure entertaining-A irukkum. ah cinemA vil muthirai pathipadhu pondra vishayam

appo edhirpArpulayE padam pArkkum style varum .... thodarndhu failures kodutha oru director oru nalla padam thideernnu koduthAl ... adai pArkka pAdhi pEr mun vara mAttAnga ..... think of some movies which had late pick up ... the reason being good feedback illayA !?

[Ifroham4]

patha vekkireengalE groucho

Thread bayanggaramaa odumnu nenechen, wet fuse ayiduche. Ellam weekend moodla irukkangga pola irukku.

[Big A]

Originally Posted by bingleguy patha vekkireengalE groucho

Thread bayanggaramaa odumnu nenechen, wet fuse ayiduche. Ellam weekend moodla irukkangga pola irukku. en intha kola veri(vadivelu style-la) just kidding

[brraverishhh]

Originally Posted by bingleguy patha vekkireengalE groucho

Thread bayanggaramaa odumnu nenechen, wet fuse ayiduche. Ellam weekend moodla irukkangga pola irukku. class ethu mass etunu yarukum puriyila pola..

[LottiFurmann]

Originally Posted by bingleguy patha vekkireengalE groucho

Thread bayanggaramaa odumnu nenechen, wet fuse ayiduche. Ellam weekend moodla irukkangga pola irukku. ahA .... enna oru nalla intensan :P
oru vELai soodu ethura sila mukkiya kadhApAthirangaL innum varaliyO ennamO nAn ellam oru nadunilaivAdhi ennAla soodu ellAm etha mudiyAdhu :P threadkku :P

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Originally Posted by groucho070 Originally Posted by bingleguy patha vekkireengalE groucho

Thread bayanggaramaa odumnu nenechen, wet fuse ayiduche. Ellam weekend moodla irukkangga pola irukku. class ethu mass etunu yarukum puriyila pola.. unmaiyilye

modhalla CLASS n MASS kku definition kodungappa oru defining factors illAma discuss eppadi panradhAm

[MannoFr]

Vk is a person who gave some vareity admidst formula movies in 80's.

its hard to classify him as a formula mass hero...he had given some classy entertainers.

[TorryJens]

HR sonna Mass films'kum ippo iruka mass films'kum romba vitiyasam.

Nowadays, the story is waffer thin. Heriones are there for the sake of it and a side track comedy is also chosen to fill the 3 hour mark.

OTOH, class movies have taken a giant step towards story and prefection, recent examples are VA, Yavarum nalam, Anjathe.

Mass - taken a step backwards with hero's carrying the story in one hand, whilst Class movies have attracted a different audiences altogether especially the ones that know more about other film industries.

Therefore, my assumption is that, there needs to be a mix between the two, if the movie has to succeed. long gone are the days to ultimate sunts and Bags full of punch dialouges. Movies such as Ayan, billa, pattiyal etc has been a hit mainly because of the mix of Class and mass.

[Fegasderty]

OTOH, class movies have taken a giant step towards story and prefection, recent examples are VA, Yavarum nalam, Anjathe.[/b]

u mean these movies are very ahead of 80's movies?

[doctorzlo]

Originally Posted by Vivasaayi Originally Posted by mareen OTOH, class movies have taken a giant step towards story and prefection, recent examples are VA, Yavarum nalam, Anjathe.[/b]

u mean these movies are very ahead of 80's movies? cant comment on that perfectly as i havent watched many movies that are from the 80's. then how can u say that a giant leap had been taken..

thats why I asked.

[Peptobismol]

Originally Posted by mareen Originally Posted by Vivasaayi Originally Posted by mareen OTOH, class movies have taken a giant step towards story and prefection, recent examples are VA, Yavarum nalam, Anjathe.[/b]

u mean these movies are very ahead of 80's movies? cant comment on that perfectly as i havent watched many movies that are from the 80's. then how can u say that a giant leap had been taken..

thats why I asked. oh athha, nowadays there are resonable justifications given to the plot. Not saying the old movies had no justification, But in genral the current movies are much better maybe due to the advance in technology, I would never know.

i was born in late late 80's i would have no idea.

[brraverishhh]

Originally Posted by Vivasaayi Originally Posted by mareen Originally Posted by Vivasaayi Originally Posted by mareen OTOH, class movies have taken a giant step towards story and prefection, recent examples are VA, Yavarum nalam, Anjathe.[/b]

u mean these movies are very ahead of 80's movies? cant comment on that perfectly as i havent watched many movies that are from the 80's. then how can u say that a giant leap had been taken..

thats why I asked. oh athha, nowadays there are resonable justifications given to the plot. Not saying the old movies had no justification, But in genral the current movies are much better maybe due to the advance in technology, I would never know.

i was born in late late 80's i would have no idea. i kinda agree with mareen. gone are the days where disguise was just merely a difference of a mole.

just like mareen, I can't comment perfectly on the 80's movies but roughly you can say a lot of have changed, for the better and also some with a negative effect.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Still line is blurry.

In Hollywood there is arthouse films and then there is mainstream. Then, you have low budget mainstreat, that goes directo to DVD, and may get theatrical release outside of US.

Arthouse are normally lower budgetted,with supposedly good story, or some innovative concept, with supposedly good performance and lot of self-indulgence.

Mainstream films are out there to make big bucks, and they pull no stops to make sure that the flicks are crowd pleaser.

Now, we can't say the same here in TFI.


Classy films has strong storyline, with strong cast, and overall good direction. Mass is like what I mentioned about Hollywood mainstream, except in most occasions, the budget. They are more like direct to DVD flicks the Lalaland produces.

In TFI there are no dedicated, as far as leading stars are concerned, actors to either mass or class. Even VK has done some films that I would say quite classy, like Chathriyan and Tamizhselvam. Early in his career he had appeared in classy films, like Visu's Dowry Kalyanam.

Rajini and Kamal has been alternating from day one, except Rajini has been doing only mass after Talabathi. Sathyaraj too does the same. Same goes to the younger heroes.

I am losing track of what I was trying to say here. Mindla vanthuchu-na ezhuthuren. Damn, now I think this is weak thread.

[Ifroham4]

Damn, now I think this is weak thread.

If properly manoeuvred, it can go on for pages and pages with heated disucssions.

[9mm_fan]

Originally Posted by groucho070 Damn, now I think this is weak thread.

If properly manoeuvred, it can go on for pages and pages with heated disucssions. Well, I myself can't come out with anything strong. It was fueled by HR's excellent argument, which is also debatable.

Ingga 80s patthi pesinaangga.

Back then, there were no such notion. All films were same, all of them were doing all type of films, no pigeonholing. Suddenly Nayagan happened. Kinda triggered Kamal to do more meaningful stuff, and following year he did Sathya, Unnal Mudiyum Thambi and Soorasamharam - which we saw as good, as opposed to Masala. Good as in, more realism. 3 films did not do as well as expected and I remember reading a weekly saying that Kamal is returning to Masala - which was Apoorva Sahothargal.

Ippo antha padattai paarta, will we say its a mass film? No way, thats one classy production. So, there is a confusion now, what is mass and what is class?

[doctorzlo]

Not saying the old movies had no justification, But in genral the current movies are much better maybe due to the advance in technology, I would never know.

i was born in late late 80's i would have no idea.

[HedgeYourBets]

All films were same, all of them were doing all type of films, no pigeonholing. Suddenly Nayagan happened.

enga neenga JKR Nayagan pathi thaan sollureengalonnu nencachen, until I read Kamal