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Old 07-27-2012, 06:42 PM   #1
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What one word would you use to describe an expat such as myself opening up a small rest/bar somewhere in your beautiful country. Give me the good, the bad, and the ugly!

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:52 PM   #2
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There are already too many expat owned restaurants and bars that have opened, most of which have failed.

Read the posts about conditions in the country. In one word, very bad. Keep your money until things improve, you couldn't pick a worse time than now.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:56 PM   #3
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What one word would you use to describe an expat such as myself opening up a small rest/bar somewhere in your beautiful country. Give me the good, the bad, and the ugly!

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-Risky
"Delusional"

Donate the money to a charity or open a free health clinic and take a tax write off.

tambo'
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:07 PM   #4
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Three words: Waste Of Time
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:11 PM   #5
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What one word would you use ...
El loco.

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Old 07-27-2012, 07:20 PM   #6
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What is it about the D.R. that makes so many people visit there and immediately feel the need to open a business? It seems to me that would just take all the fun out of the place. I like Disney World too but I wouldn't want to work there.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:28 PM   #7
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What one word would you use to describe an expat such as myself opening up a small rest/bar somewhere in your beautiful country. Give me the good, the bad, and the ugly!

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-Risky
Better to be aware and informed, than DAZED AND CONFUSED,

So if I were you, I would listen to the advice that is being given in this forum......

Meanwhile......enjoy.....
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:30 PM   #8
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What is it about the D.R. that makes so many people visit there and immediately feel the need to open a business?
Sun, sand, and WOMEN!!!!!!!
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:33 PM   #9
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Sea, sex and sun (as in the French song)
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:37 PM   #10
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Sun, sand, and WOMEN!!!!!!!
Think about it. A guy who's working where it's cold, dark and and full of angry Women is a lot more likely to work late. More distractions = less money.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:39 PM   #11
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Sea, sex and sun (as in the French song)
Here ya go kiddo,




I know, I'm a little bored.......so sad...lol


But I have a booze cruise tonite!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:48 PM   #12
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What one word would you use to describe an expat such as myself opening up a small rest/bar somewhere in your beautiful country. Give me the good, the bad, and the ugly!

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-Risky
What is your experience running a rest/bar? Are you one of those "It's gotta be easy, anybody could do it" kind of guys?
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:59 PM   #13
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What is your experience running a rest/bar? Are you one of those "It's gotta be easy, anybody could do it" kind of guys?
I'm sure you remember Ronny in Boca Chica, when he had his bar,

I used to hang there alot, and had a blast....

Remember how laid back Ronny was, I can only imagine how many times he put that idea into some unsuspecting tourist,

Like "Oh yeah, no problem, you can buy my place if you want"

I can still hear him now.......
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:24 PM   #14
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I'm sure you remember Ronny in Boca Chica, when he had his bar,

I used to hang there alot, and had a blast....

Remember how laid back Ronny was, I can only imagine how many times he put that idea into some unsuspecting tourist,

Like "Oh yeah, no problem, you can buy my place if you want"

I can still hear him now.......
Then more than likely we know each other. I've got a few hours there myself.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:42 PM   #15
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I remember Ronnys bar LOl
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:56 PM   #16
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I remember Ronnys bar LOl
I should probably give a time frame. I started going there in 1985 until it was sold.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:03 PM   #17
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I should probably give a time frame. I started going there in 1985 until it was sold.
You must be Ronny's age!
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:53 PM   #18
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You must be Ronny's age!
Not far off. You're no spring chicken yourself anymore!
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:02 PM   #19
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You can make this work - just don't get greedy.
You can be the first to offer discounts to DR1 regulars... door basher specials.

If you got a fraction of their bar bills, you 'll retire - again - in a short time.

Put padded head rests above the urinals - boys need to rest their noggins while peeing.
Pad the toilets too so that when a patron wants to make a long distance call on the porcelain telephone.... HALLOOOOO, they won't chip their teeth.
Buckets (aka spitoons) beside your best customers for on the spot barfing - this avoids them missing a round of drinks while in the barfroom.

More to follow......

Next Friday....
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:32 PM   #20
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What one word would you use to describe an expat such as myself opening up a small rest/bar somewhere in your beautiful country. Give me the good, the bad, and the ugly!

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-Risky
As long as you avoid 100% the touristic poles, the goal of catering just to the expats/foreigners in the DR, the coastal areas and pretty much only select from Santiago or Santo Domingo to place you new biz? Go for it!

Just as any place on earth, location is your first enemy or friend depending on your biz model.

Do you bring a new taste that's missing to the city and people?

Are you aware that what you think is a novel idea to the DR is in reality something already tried and failed here?

If there's not rice involved, it will not last long! Must incorporate some of the local staples and avoid the too exotic.

You can open the biz and see it make a big splash the first few months or year, only to regress until only your family and friends are the patrons... Out of pity...

The key to success in the DR is to be well positioned economically for the long haul. Don't even dream of paying the operating costs from the biz itself in the short to mid term, unless you are opening the first Starbucks in the country...

Your greatest nemesis will be the electrical service. If you don't have a strong bypass for this, forget it!

If you hit gold and the biz is a hit with the locals, be prepared for fierce copycat competition setting up even next door.

It's ok to rip off ideas that work from other places, since they did exactly the same too!

The service part is what will make or break your biz. Don't try to cater to just one sector, as this will kill your biz.

For what's worth, don't hire people to full time schedules! A maximum of two days per week is the best ratio to offer. This will allow those people to have more than one source of income and let you explore good combinations for service in the staff. After a long time, if you consider the individual a grade "A" asset, then you offer them more workdays at a time.

Don't provide a fix salary or per hour pay other than a base! Breakdown your costs and profits from each item you plan to sell/offer and create a shared profit % for each employee in your care. That's to say that a beer that you'll sell for (make believe amounts here) RD$ 40 pesos, must include a RD$4 pesos cut for the server, RD$1 peso for the busboy and RD$2 pesos for the kitchen staff. The faster the kitchen turns over food, the faster the service, the more the servers will be able to offer to clients as in appetizers, side dishes, desserts, etc... The faster and more efficient will the busboys carry out their duties.

This will make the staff work for their money and you with a happy smile all the time.

In our DR biz, our employees get a cut of all the biz they are involved in. From head to toe, anybody involved in a given contract, sale, trade, etc... gets a profit share.

Take your time to teach and provide training to your staff! They'll perform what you practiced and got trained to do!

Expect to get what you paid for from your employees. Pay low salaries/bonuses, you'll get low performance/output.

Raise the bar on hires! Don't hire people with lack of schooling or appropriate college/technical training.

Don't provide free meals but discounted food to your employees. If you give it for free, then it will not bee seen as theft when they opt to snack out of their food time from available stuff in your kitchen/stocks.

Use a client promotional program, where patrons get points they can have discounted as free meals/services on later orders. First of all, don't let patrons know the promotion is there. But just letting they see it as an appreciation for their calls from time to time from the biz, when the points are reached.

That's to say you add a certain amount of extra fee on your items, but this extra fee included in the price of the goods is not to be taken as profit on the moment. As the client keeps paying visits and ordering the points accumulate and when the points/value reach the level of their order for that day, the discount is applied to their tab.

The client will notice that the more he visits, the more times that event takes place. He just doesn't know at what point or amount per visit this will traduce to a free meal/service. Nor will he know the amount it needs to be to become a free one.

You can do that to both eat-in and carry-out/delivery orders.

They are not free in reality, but for the clients it sure will feel like that!

One big problem all too common to restaurants in the DR, is that of ingredients/inventory. They fail to institute a supply system that assures consistency of the goods each week/month for the most part.

This is why a lot of times, when somebody eats at a place and gets an outstanding meal, another time it will fall flat.

The service could be the same and well as the way things are done, but when the raw material employed in the dish fail to keep with the quality/freshness/taste, the dish prepared is too distant to the last one.

Green peppers from one region will not taste the same as another. Nor will they share the same texture and crispness when cooked. The colors will vary, etc...

Reason why you can eat a Big Mac in NYC and the same order in LA with very faint differences in the taste/texture, have much to do with the supply policy of the company.

Chickens supplied from a local Gallinero, will not change in taste as much as those you can get from a huge poultry meat supplier. The local gallinero will actually replenish the sold chicken with the same line of the old chicks. The large poultry operator will get them from who knows and what region.

A simple dish like chicken breast stuffed with shrimp, could change drastically just on the taste of the chicken meat!

There's more to a successful biz than a dream and a few thousand dollars to invest in it.
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