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**Drugsonl** · 07-13-2012, 09:05 PM

To get the ball rolling, Romain Grosjean has copped a five-place grid penalty for Hockenheim, due to a gearbox having to be replaced. This guy seemingly can't catch a break.

Grosjean to take five-place grid penalty at Hockenheim after team discovers gearbox issue - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

**pumpineemob** · 07-13-2012, 10:21 PM

Ouch!! That is going to affect my FGP

As for the race I am intrigued by the battle that is shaping up between Vettel, and Webber, as well as; if Ferrari can continue to improve, and if McLaren will rediscover their form.
Long range forecast...... FWIW..... rain
Weather Headlines - weather.com

**pharweqto** · 07-19-2012, 10:56 PM

This DRS Zone should facilitate über passing

**i32I7qyH** · 07-20-2012, 10:39 PM

To get the ball rolling, Romain Grosjean has copped a five-place grid penalty for Hockenheim, due to a gearbox having to be replaced. This guy seemingly can't catch a break.

Grosjean to take five-place grid penalty at Hockenheim after team discovers gearbox issue - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Add Rosberg to the list.
Rosberg to get five-place grid penalty after gearbox change ahead of German GP - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

**YmolafBp** · 07-20-2012, 10:43 PM

Well, what can we say. Lotus is testing a new double DRS wing, so I wonder, how efficient will that prove to be. Can Lotus make one step forward and finally take a race win on genuine pace?

If it rains, well, Ferrari should be good. Red Bull should be competitive especially in dry. Wonder, how will McLaren go. This is a vital race for Hamilton to stay in the title fight. And McLaren must regain form to prevent other teams gaining momentum in the fight for P2 in WCC.

**ssiikmuz** · 07-21-2012, 02:44 PM

Well stated on all points Jens. It appears that we may well have a quali, and race situation similar to Silverstone, wet for the former, and dry for the later. I also expect the results to be similar with the exception of McLaren being more competitive. I think it bodes well that Button seems to be comfortable in the MP4-27 in practice. As for Lotus I think their quali form will be ok but have reservations about their race pace. They were able to generate heat in their tires at Silverstone because of the high speed/load corners. Hockenheim is quite a different type of circuit, and the cold temps may affect them negatively. I think Red Bull should be very strong this weekend, although I expect Ferrari, McLaren and to a lesser degree Lotus to be in the fight. FI should also go well here IMO.

**Dpkefsuf** · 07-21-2012, 04:56 PM

Add Rosberg to the list.
Rosberg to get five-place grid penalty after gearbox change ahead of German GP - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Add Webber to the list.

Red Bull's Mark Webber gets gearbox change penalty for German Grand Prix - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

**Frannypaync** · 07-21-2012, 07:57 PM

Wet pole ? who will beat Lewis this time ?

**PaulCameron** · 07-21-2012, 08:10 PM

Hmmm, Radio 5 Live seems to have Golf or something on...

Also, does anyone know why James Allen has been replaced by Jonathan Legard? Did Allen fall out with BBC?

**PymnImmen** · 07-21-2012, 08:18 PM

Oh good I've got 5 Live working, but I'm really wondering why it's Legard... But I'm just glad to have someone on! Beats the open.

**RedImmik** · 07-21-2012, 08:20 PM

MS ?

**stadiaKab** · 07-21-2012, 08:26 PM

Rain arrived...

**DrazAdwamoi** · 07-21-2012, 09:05 PM

snap

**SobiquYo** · 07-21-2012, 09:06 PM

Amazing Alonso !

**trubreTab** · 07-21-2012, 09:10 PM

getting really tired of mclaren not being able to figure out how to get the car to perform in wet weather,
another disappointing qualy in 2012

**apodildNoli** · 07-21-2012, 09:20 PM

I agree with you truefan, especially considering how fast is/can be Lewis on wet track.He must be very annoyed about this...

**Ad0i89Od** · 07-21-2012, 09:31 PM

It's particularly surprising, given that they were looking just fine on Q2. Perhaps they just had trouble getting the full wets to work, as the intermediates seemed to be OK.

**Mowselelex** · 07-21-2012, 09:55 PM

McLaren have had problems switching on the inters but are ok on the full wets, really a little surprised Lewis didn't do better, but it was a bit of a crap shoot. TBH it was painful watching all of the cars in Q3 bumbling around a soaked track with dry setups.

**BoBoMasterDesign** · 07-21-2012, 10:04 PM

Wet pole ? who will beat Lewis this time ?

Button, for example, and five others?

**KuRoregioNka** · 07-21-2012, 10:54 PM

It's another lottery in qualifying. Had it been a dry weather, the two Lotuses/Lotii will be up there and it will be Nico instead of Michael. The bulls are going to be strong regardless. Fred haters will continue to believe he got lucky again. Jenson finally out qualified Lewis. Let's hope they have the race pace on Sunday

07-13-2012, 09:05 PM	#1
Drugsonl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	German Grand Prix Thread To get the ball rolling, Romain Grosjean has copped a five-place grid penalty for Hockenheim, due to a gearbox having to be replaced. This guy seemingly can't catch a break. Grosjean to take five-place grid penalty at Hockenheim after team discovers gearbox issue - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-13-2012, 10:21 PM	#2
pumpineemob Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 474 Senior Member	Ouch!! That is going to affect my FGP As for the race I am intrigued by the battle that is shaping up between Vettel, and Webber, as well as; if Ferrari can continue to improve, and if McLaren will rediscover their form. Long range forecast...... FWIW..... rain Weather Headlines - weather.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-19-2012, 10:56 PM	#3
pharweqto Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 367 Senior Member	This DRS Zone should facilitate über passing Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 10:39 PM	#4
i32I7qyH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	To get the ball rolling, Romain Grosjean has copped a five-place grid penalty for Hockenheim, due to a gearbox having to be replaced. This guy seemingly can't catch a break. Grosjean to take five-place grid penalty at Hockenheim after team discovers gearbox issue - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Add Rosberg to the list. Rosberg to get five-place grid penalty after gearbox change ahead of German GP - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 10:43 PM	#5
YmolafBp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	Well, what can we say. Lotus is testing a new double DRS wing, so I wonder, how efficient will that prove to be. Can Lotus make one step forward and finally take a race win on genuine pace? If it rains, well, Ferrari should be good. Red Bull should be competitive especially in dry. Wonder, how will McLaren go. This is a vital race for Hamilton to stay in the title fight. And McLaren must regain form to prevent other teams gaining momentum in the fight for P2 in WCC. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2012, 02:44 PM	#6
ssiikmuz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 370 Senior Member	Well stated on all points Jens. It appears that we may well have a quali, and race situation similar to Silverstone, wet for the former, and dry for the later. I also expect the results to be similar with the exception of McLaren being more competitive. I think it bodes well that Button seems to be comfortable in the MP4-27 in practice. As for Lotus I think their quali form will be ok but have reservations about their race pace. They were able to generate heat in their tires at Silverstone because of the high speed/load corners. Hockenheim is quite a different type of circuit, and the cold temps may affect them negatively. I think Red Bull should be very strong this weekend, although I expect Ferrari, McLaren and to a lesser degree Lotus to be in the fight. FI should also go well here IMO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2012, 04:56 PM	#7
Dpkefsuf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	Add Rosberg to the list. Rosberg to get five-place grid penalty after gearbox change ahead of German GP - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Add Webber to the list. Red Bull's Mark Webber gets gearbox change penalty for German Grand Prix - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Frannypaync Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	Wet pole ? who will beat Lewis this time ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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PaulCameron Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 337 Senior Member	Hmmm, Radio 5 Live seems to have Golf or something on... Also, does anyone know why James Allen has been replaced by Jonathan Legard? Did Allen fall out with BBC? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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PymnImmen Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Oh good I've got 5 Live working, but I'm really wondering why it's Legard... But I'm just glad to have someone on! Beats the open. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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SobiquYo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 368 Senior Member	Amazing Alonso ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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trubreTab Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	getting really tired of mclaren not being able to figure out how to get the car to perform in wet weather, another disappointing qualy in 2012 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2012, 09:20 PM	#16
apodildNoli Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 383 Senior Member	I agree with you truefan, especially considering how fast is/can be Lewis on wet track.He must be very annoyed about this... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2012, 09:31 PM	#17
Ad0i89Od Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 374 Senior Member	It's particularly surprising, given that they were looking just fine on Q2. Perhaps they just had trouble getting the full wets to work, as the intermediates seemed to be OK. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Mowselelex Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	McLaren have had problems switching on the inters but are ok on the full wets, really a little surprised Lewis didn't do better, but it was a bit of a crap shoot. TBH it was painful watching all of the cars in Q3 bumbling around a soaked track with dry setups. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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BoBoMasterDesign Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 501 Senior Member	Wet pole ? who will beat Lewis this time ? Button, for example, and five others? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2012, 10:54 PM	#20
KuRoregioNka Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 526 Senior Member	It's another lottery in qualifying. Had it been a dry weather, the two Lotuses/Lotii will be up there and it will be Nico instead of Michael. The bulls are going to be strong regardless. Fred haters will continue to believe he got lucky again. Jenson finally out qualified Lewis. Let's hope they have the race pace on Sunday Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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