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Old 06-22-2012, 06:38 PM   #21
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What is so unreasonable about what you quoted? Surely you must acknowledge that chances of Kubica making a complete recovery from his injuries (i.e, able to retain his racing ability) are pretty slim.

I am guessing that all of this talk about Vettel to Ferrari means that Kubica's days as a F1 racer are over??
I don't see why Ferrari would remotely consider Kubica regardless of driver speculation.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:35 AM   #22
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Surprised about the Hamilton bit, as I'd think that, after 2007, they would be discouraged and cringe at the thought of teaming up with each other, because they both want #1 status.
The number one status or at least being treated equally works fine presently at McLaren with Jenson and Lewis, so I doubt Lewis would have too much of a problem going up against Fernando. You have to remember that in 2007 Lewis was brand new to the sport and was getting equal support from the team which Alonso felt was unfair as he thought he'd earnt number one status. Thats very different now because Hamilton is an acomplished driver and a World Champion, so these guys probably have alot more respect for each other. I wouldn't want to see Lewis go to Ferrari as IMO you can't really top McLaren, and hope its Vettel who makes this move.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:48 AM   #23
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What is so unreasonable about what you quoted? Surely you must acknowledge that chances of Kubica making a complete recovery from his injuries (i.e, able to retain his racing ability) are pretty slim.
No, the gif is supposed to show how I personally feel, as in "I am doing the facepalm because Kubica most likely won't come back", because I'd love to see him back. What the other guy said was in no way unreasonable to me, because I know Kubica had that rally crash last year, then this year, re-opened an old wound after slipping on ice. Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:49 AM   #24
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The number one status or at least being treated equally works fine presently at McLaren with Jenson and Lewis, so I dount Lewis would have too much of a problem going up against Fernando. You have to remember that in 2007 Lewis was brand new to the sport and was getting equal support from the team which Alonso felt was unfair as he thought he'd earnt number one status. Thats very different now because Hamilton is an acomplished driver and a World Champion, so these guys probably have alot more respect for each other. I wouldn't want to see Lewis go to Ferrari as IMO you can't really top McLaren, and hope its Vettel who makes this move.
Oh, I see where you're coming from. I didn't think of that. Definite like, looks like a great analyzation!
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:07 PM   #25
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Alonso would murder him in equal cars.
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:18 PM   #26
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Alonso would murder him in equal cars.
I think he would too.
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:44 PM   #27
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In a good car I think Vettel is probably a match for anyone, however if the car wasn't perfect I think Alonso would be able to drive around the problem better.. ..or putting it another way, if Alonso moved to Red Bull it would be far closer than if vice versa.
I also suspect as No1 driver and his close relationship with Ferrari, Alonso would be advantaged in ways Vettel wouldn't even know about.

Cant see this happening, as said above just speculation/silly talk to unsettle teams... I also doubt Vettel is that stupid either.


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Old 06-24-2012, 09:33 PM   #28
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I am not surprised that Vettel has been linked with Ferrari, they are the most prestigious team around and every driver want to race for them.

I doubt he will go, Red Bull have supported him his entire career turned him into a World Champion twice and (once Webber leaves/retires) he will have undisputed number 1 status proberally with Ricciardo as a team-mate. At Ferrari he would be battling Alonso and they would end up taking points off each other before one is told to help the other
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:02 PM   #29
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It would be interesting to see. I agree with many above. In a perfect car, it would be close, but In anything but that Alonso would wipe the floor
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:23 AM   #30
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I doubt Vettel is going to join Ferrari as long as Alonso is there. But... I think it is possible Vettel could join Ferrari, when he is around 30 years old and Alonso calls it a day or Ferrari wants to focus on a younger driver. They like to hire established stars and Vettel is bound to be on top of their list once Alonso's era is over. Also it is attractive for Vettel to end his career in Ferrari. At the moment there is no hurry to rush there though.

What concerns Alonso wiping the floor with Vettel... Well, don't count your chickens yet, especially when you are trying to predict things, which are potentially several years away even if they materialize. The currently supremely performing Alonso could well hit trouble one day as well. With every passing year Vettel is gaining more experience and time is more and more on his side compared to Alonso.

But as I said, I doubt it is going to happen. More likely it would be like the switch from Schumacher to Räikkönen. In 2016 at Monza it will be announced that Alonso retires and Vettel replaces him as the lead driver?
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:38 PM   #31
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Some sources say it's done.

Ferrari, con Vettel c'è l'accordo. Dal 2014 sarà al Cavallino. Massa o Webber per il 2013

BBC Sport - Formula 1 gossip and rumours from international media

Ferrari have concluded an agreement for Sebastian Vettel join Fernando Alonso at the team from 2014. They will offer Felipe Massa a performance-related deal to stay on as a stop-gap in 2013 but if that doesn't work out will make an offer for Mark Webber. To really secure Vettel's signing, they need to deliver a title for Alonso so the pairing is less confrontational with a more fulfilled Alonso. It is also interesting that Mark Webber told Channel One that Ferrari have not approached him yet.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:57 PM   #32
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As much as I'd expect Alonso to beat Vettel, it would be really close IMHO. I can't think of anyone who has been putting an excellent qualifying after another - besides from Vettel, of course. But it remains to be seen whether Vettel can cope with a poor car, if he can manage his tyres or if he can show the kind of calculated aggression that Alonso shows every time he is in trouble. We all know that Alonso is a very complete driver and all that stuff, but Vettel is FAST. I'd just expect Alonso to be more consistent.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:33 AM   #33
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breaking up with his sugar daddy Helmut Marko for bieber? I'd love to see that.
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