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Extipletape 05-29-2012 03:10 AM

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I refer you too Alonso v petrov in abu dhabi in 2010. There was never an inside to throw one up on Sunday, it needed a mistake or a 2 second advantage before its even remotely possible. Perez could only just get past the marussias and hrts, he and button both had numerous attempts to get past heikki, button retired with damage, perez had 3 or 4 goes and was off the track before passing heikki, who by then had a front wing hanging off. There simply was not a chance for the top 6 to pass, regardless of when the race is held.

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May aswell give all the points for qualifying positions in Monaco if there is no chance of anyone ever overtaking unless it's in the pitstops.
Pirelli should have bought tyres to force 2 or 3 stops to at least make it moderately interesting. Cars going around 6 seconds a lap slower than quali to preserve rubber and others still can't get by is hardly people pushing to the limits as someone above said. How many cars hit the barriers in the race pushing to the limits ? Most the 6 retirements were thru the turn 1 shunt so hardly a race of attrition.

swoluelvede 05-29-2012 03:15 AM

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May aswell give all the points for qualifying positions in Monaco if there is no chance of anyone ever overtaking unless it's in the pitstops.
Pirelli should have bought tyres to force 2 or 3 stops to at least make it moderately interesting. Cars going around 6 seconds a lap slower than quali to preserve rubber and others still can't get by is hardly people pushing to the limits as someone above said. How many cars hit the barriers in the race pushing to the limits ? Most the 6 retirements were thru the turn 1 shunt so hardly a race of attrition.
Thanks to the wonderful tyres we have no one can go to the absolute limit, because his tyres would be dead after a few laps.
Hell, guys are saving tyres even in qualifying, so wonderful are the Pirelli tyres.

Intockatt 05-29-2012 04:15 AM

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May aswell give all the points for qualifying positions in Monaco if there is no chance of anyone ever overtaking unless it's in the pitstops.
Pirelli should have bought tyres to force 2 or 3 stops to at least make it moderately interesting. Cars going around 6 seconds a lap slower than quali to preserve rubber and others still can't get by is hardly people pushing to the limits as someone above said. How many cars hit the barriers in the race pushing to the limits ? Most the 6 retirements were thru the turn 1 shunt so hardly a race of attrition.
And this it has been for what, 70 years? Monaco has never been a place for passing, there are a few exceptions, but if you can get to the front you can control the pace and as long as you don't do anything stupid you stay there. Seen Senna v Mansell, when Mansell on new tyres was multiple seconds quicker, but no way past. As for 6 seconds a lap slower, being on the limits of the tyre does not equal the same lap time as being on the limit in qually with no fuel and brand new tyres. They were all driving as quickly as possible, with a small margin for tyre management, which has always been the case

Deribasov 05-29-2012 10:04 PM

The challenge of Monaco isn’t necessarily the passing, but the drive. It is one of the few races that requires full skill and concentration from the driver for the entire duration. Just to finish in once piece is an accomplishment.
This is part of the reason that makes Monaco the one event that all drivers long to win at least once in their career.

cucceevevaind 05-30-2012 10:09 AM

Great point Schmenke. It's one of the few races where it is not uncommon to see almost ALL the drivers a bit visibly drained after getting out of the cars.

Prosocorneliay 05-30-2012 05:03 PM

Yes, it is likely the hardest race...

sDePrx59 06-01-2012 12:07 AM

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Monaco has always been crashed filled. Today was no different as was said during the broadcast that today's race had the most DNF's this year. Not sure that the top 6 finish was or is any different than any other F1 race other than the fact that P2 through P6 were nose to tail...which never happens at a closed circuit track.

As a American...the GP of Monaco has always been a perfect fit to a trifecta or a "triple crown" per say to a race fan with the Indy 500 and Coke 600 on the day before our Memorial Day. It's racing from 7 AM in the morning until 11 PM at night. I was pizzed big time for the couple of seasons when Speed did a same day tape delay of the GP and ran it at the same time as the Indy 500...I'm sure my enthusiasm in F1 will diminish even more if Bernie pulled it from this particular weekend.
By the 2nd to last race of the F1 season, more often than not, the championship has already been decided, and I doubt anyone id keen on changing the MonacoGP to October.

100% agree. Any other sunday of the season we may well have races from all three series, and occasionally sportscars as well, but Memorial Day sunday is about racing from sun up to after sundown. I may be in the living room, I may be on the porch, or I'm more likely to be on the boat, but regardless, I'm in front of a TV screen watching three of the biggest races of the season.

Date equity is paramount for the success of any long term racing event. If anyone asked me the significance of the first and third Saturdays in May- The Derby and the Preakness. Don't ask me what the date is, it doesn't matter. Same with these races. Historically they occur on the Sunday of Memorial Day Weekend (generally the last sunday of May.)


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