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Old 11-29-2011, 06:54 PM   #21
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I'll take his icy attitude over Vettel's annoying screaming any time.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:03 PM   #22
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7 WDC and 91 wins doesn't equate to a successful wardrobe either then
I know these are bad times with the recession and all, but he doesn't have to buy second-hand clothes from the circus or Boy George to save money either.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:06 PM   #23
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Doesn't seem unmotivated to me, this is from Spa 2009. Must be the KERS though, with that you can pass without motivation.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:09 PM   #24
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I know these are bad times with the recession and all, but he doesn't have to buy second-hand clothes from the circus or Boy George to save money either.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:19 PM   #25
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I wonder if there is any connection between Kimi joining and Davy Ryan appearing at Lotus recently?
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:23 PM   #26
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Petrov + Raikkonen - #DebriefingWillBeShort https://twitter.com/#!/alex_wurz/sta...30724644454401

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Old 11-29-2011, 07:32 PM   #27
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It's easy to forget that at the start of the season Renault-Lotus-Lada-Genii-Pugh-Pugh-Barney-McGrew-Cutherbert-Dibble-Grubb had two consecutive podiums, so maybe Kimi is convinced that with some development the car might be capable of winning again. Whether he's the man to bring that development is of course open to question: nobody's doubting his experience or speed but with limited testing there's only so much he can do if the car turns out to be another dog.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:56 PM   #28
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I've surprised myself as I'm genuinely excited by this news. I always liked Kimi, but I didn't realise i actually missed him until te news came that he was definately back. Add to that the last 6 world champions, from the last 12 years will all be racing next year, which has to be a good thing.

Pity (personally) that it looks to have cost Senna his seat, especially if Petrov is retained cos he's done nothing so far to keep out Grosjean or Senna IMO. Would be nice if Kubica came back mid season, that could be quite a line up - Kimi and Kubica, that could rattle a few teams. Unlikely I know, but a nice thought nonetheless.

Hopefully Lotus (nee Renault) can build on the promise they showed at the beginning of the season, and not carry over where they finished the season and maybe with at least one top line driver could mix up the order in the front 4-5 teams.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:50 PM   #29
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Great news . But I do have to agree that he came across as 'not even bovvvered' in his last season in F1.
Still though he outperformed the car, winning once and getting a run of podiums, comfortably beating Massa, Badoer and Fisichella that year. With more motivation, just think how fast he could be.

I am happy he is back, he is only 32 and has plenty of time left to get a second championship. The grid will change completely in 2013 & 2014 and this contract gives him the chance to show that he is worth a top-line drive - so there is his motivation.

He may find being at a lesser team actually more suits him - less PR, less pressure, more chance to overachieve.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:39 PM   #30
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If this means that there is another driver who can challenge for podiums and, at a stretch, race wins, how on earth can this be bad news?
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:42 PM   #31
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Oh well. I wasn't really expecting these news. Even yesterday, while pondering about 2012 line-ups, I wasn't considering Räikkönen at Lotus. But I have to say it's not exactly a surprise either, because there were some rumours about contact between two sides. Bouiller has talked about needing a "big name" for the future, also after a difficult season LRGP has been evaluating future options and seemed to be quite flexible about, who to possibly hire.

Now interesting to think that the Williams rumours were really serious, but they quite suddenly died off just recently. Perhaps that was the moment, when Kimi got a better offer from LRGP and hence decided to abandon Williams. There was some talk about the purchase of equity in Williams, which was arguably denied - wonder if equity was part of negotiations with LRGP too? I think they (Genii) would welcome any new investment in the team. From that point of view long-term deal (it is 2 years as we are reading) makes sense, instead of abandoning the ship quickly.

Regarding motivation thing - perhaps Kimi realized that it would be better to earn something (for racing) rather than pay all his WRC drives, which would be quite expensive. Regarding performance, I guess the current rules could suit Kimi fine. He had some tyre warming issues later in his (previous) F1 career, but in 2005 he was going really well and back then we had tyres that had to last for the whole race! So perhaps Kimi prefers fragile tyres, much like Button.

Interesting partnership, but I'm unsure, how will this work out for the future. There were doubters about the Williams deal, critics saying that there is no point in joining a team that is going nowhere. Well, LRGP doesn't seem much better really, sometimes they have been performing in lower midfield late in the season. If they could get back their early-11 form on a consistent basis, everyone would be happy, but they could just as easily keep scraping for a single championship point every now and then. Like Williams, they have been in turmoil and need a fresh start. I don't think they have it in them to match Top4 teams in F1 at the moment - they would need quite a few changes, also significant further financial boost by the looks of it.

If this means that there is another driver who can challenge for podiums and, at a stretch, race wins, how on earth can this be bad news?
It largely depends on the car, how many drivers can challenge for the podium. If you are getting lapped like the whole midfield was this year, there is no chance for them.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:55 PM   #32
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I am absolutely excited about his return!
So it will be petrov and Kimi then,

I wonder what that does for Grosjean and Senna

its a shame we don't have 14 teams like we were supposed to
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:02 AM   #33
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I´m so happy, the best morning in years. Even if he not scores podiums it will be a joy to watch him. But, at Spa the odds aginst him won´t be high.

AHHHH Kimi, go go go!
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:54 AM   #34
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I´m so happy, the best morning in years. Even if he not scores podiums it will be a joy to watch him. But, at Spa the odds aginst him won´t be high.

AHHHH Kimi, go go go!
Well, I guess we won't hear the end of his praises from you all year
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:54 AM   #35
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When Kimi went away, and then Kubica got injured, there went the two drivers I always followed to see how they were doing in any given GP. F1 2012 just got more interesting for me, for sure. I kind of felt like I didn't have anyone I was really rooting for in 2011, partly because Hulkenburg didn't get a seat.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:54 AM   #36
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It largely depends on the car, how many drivers can challenge for the podium. If you are getting lapped like the whole midfield was this year, there is no chance for them.
Well he is a proven quick driver and race winner. Of course the car will have something to do with it, but it's not like we're getting Yamamoto into the car, or even somebody who lacks a 'race-winning' edge like Heidfeld. We're getting a previous champion. If Lotus start off on the same foot in 2012 as Renault did in 2011 then I expect it to continue further and develop more successfully with Kimi's input, as opposed to fading away like the morning dew during 2011. I also think that the midfield have been getting more competitive in recent years, both amongst themselves and in mixing it with the big boys at the front. Given a sniff of a top 6, most Force India, Renault and/or Sauber would make the most of the opportunity. Even Toro Rosso could do it on a very good day.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:44 AM   #37
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Welcome back, Kimi.

"I would not have come back if I wasn’t motivated. There is always a lot of talk about motivation but nobody really knows what I do or what I think apart from myself so I don’t really care about what people say."

That is why he was so liked. I don´t really care either.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:51 AM   #38
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Welcome back, Kimi.

"I would not have come back if I wasn’t motivated. There is always a lot of talk about motivation but nobody really knows what I do or what I think apart from myself so I don’t really care about what people say."

That is why he was so liked. I don´t really care either.
Nice quote but any sources?
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:48 AM   #39
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I've kept my signature the same since 2009, never thinking that he would actually come back.

But.... the Kimster is back! Yay!

LRGP has never been my favourite team, but now is their time to build a competitive car for Kimi and make a fan out of me.

This is a very happy day for me. Hopefully next year is going to be a cracker with 6 WDCs on the grid.
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