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**Jesslovers** · 01-13-2012, 07:28 PM

I see Tanak is in, but what about the rest of the teams under the M-Sport umbrella?

Østberg
Henning
Wilson
Prokop
and others that are in and out

What ford teams will run on their own, and who will be running under the M-Sport flag?

**jgztw2es** · 01-13-2012, 07:43 PM

Prokop have a privateer team, he dont even rent cars from M-sport.

**diemeareendup** · 01-14-2012, 02:09 AM

Prokop have a privateer team, he dont even rent cars from M-sport.

I think that's only correct regarding his Fiesta S2000 - his new Fiesta WRC is run and prepared by M-Sport (not 100% sure, but pretty close)

**VEGLAS - SPB** · 01-14-2012, 02:26 AM

Maybe Mads could be with Team Adapta? And maybe with Henning and Wilson? Many maybes...

**GetsTan** · 01-14-2012, 02:58 AM

I think that's only correct regarding his Fiesta S2000 - his new Fiesta WRC is run and prepared by M-Sport (not 100% sure, but pretty close)

You are 100% wrong

**gWhya5ct** · 01-14-2012, 03:02 AM

It's fully run by Prokop's team isn't it? Just getting help from a Msport engineer often probably such stuff. Many privateers can have that.

**Phassetus** · 01-14-2012, 10:52 PM

It's fully run by Prokop's team isn't it? Just getting help from a Msport engineer often probably such stuff. Many privateers can have that.

I think that's part of the deal when you buy an WRC car, engineer and his laptop comes with it (so to speak) at least for a certain period, no?

**furillo** · 01-15-2012, 12:28 AM

Yes for Prodrive.

**gWhya5ct** · 01-15-2012, 12:53 AM

Msport too, that's what I know. But u have to pay for the engineer per rally for Prodrive that is, probably for Msport too..

**diemeareendup** · 01-15-2012, 01:26 AM

You are 100% wrong

Ok, then i stand corrected

But then he's the first to have a Fiesta WRC run/prepared another team than M-Sport, correct?

I recall last year at Rally GB that Colin Clark (WRR) said his Fiesta WRC wasn't run by his own team like the S2000 was.

**GetsTan** · 01-15-2012, 01:34 AM

He is not the only one. Östberg today used his own new Fiesta in Norway. Car of Al Rahji is I think also run separately by Simon Jean-Joseph Racing. I know about others going to be used by private teams in this season.

**diemeareendup** · 01-15-2012, 01:47 AM

He is not the only one. Östberg today used his own new Fiesta in Norway. Car of Al Rahji is I think also run separately by Simon Jean-Joseph Racing. I know about others going to be used by private teams in this season.

Ok, I was only refering to WRC rounds and and WRC cars (post 2011) and there I think he will be the first not to have his Fiesta WRC run by M-Sport. Is his team still called Jipocar Racing Team?

Interesting to see if Østberg will have his run by Adapta/Team Østberg.

PS: It's Ö in Sweden and Ø in Norway and Denmark

.. same sound but differnt letter

**Jesslovers** · 01-15-2012, 02:20 AM

PS: It's Ö in Sweden and Ø in Norway and Denmark .. same sound but differnt letter

Ö also in Finland, like in Grönholm for instance.

**flienianO** · 01-15-2012, 03:16 AM

Is his team still called Jipocar Racing Team?

no, it's CZECH FORD NATIONAL TEAM.

Ö also in Finland, like in Grönholm for instance.

Ö is also in Estonian, but still i write östberg, than copy-pasting Ø from somewhere.

**Jesslovers** · 01-15-2012, 03:29 AM

Ö is also in Estonian, but still i write östberg, than copy-pasting Ø from somewhere.

please do!!

But lets go back on the road, who are the 4 in the 2 M-Sport teams people ?

**GetsTan** · 01-15-2012, 03:45 AM

PS: It's Ö in Sweden and Ø in Norway and Denmark .. same sound but differnt letter

Ah, ok. I don't have this letter on my keyboard

no, it's CZECH FORD NATIONAL TEAM.

Yes and no... Prokop's team is Jipocar Racing but they are entered in WRC as Czech Ford National Team because they get some support from Ford and Czech ASN. Jipocar is a logistic company of Prokop's father.

**flienianO** · 01-15-2012, 03:57 PM

Yes and no... Prokop's team is Jipocar Racing but they are entered in WRC as Czech Ford National Team because they get some support from Ford and Czech ASN. Jipocar is a logistic company of Prokop's father.

so formally team's name is Czech Ford National Team, but in reality it's Jipocar Racing Team. Only the name has changed?

**diemeareendup** · 01-15-2012, 05:37 PM

so formally team's name is Czech Ford National Team, but in reality it's Jipocar Racing Team. Only the name has changed?

It's very common in WRC that entry-name is different from team-name. E.g. the M2 team Armindo Arauju WRC is the entry name but the team running/preparing the car is Motorsport Italia.

**DoctorTOneery** · 01-15-2012, 07:35 PM

Also Paulo Nobre's Palmeirinha Rally M2 team is run by Motorsport Italia

There is some room on the Manufactuere list for M2 teams
1-2 Citroen
3-4 Ford WRT
5-6 M-Sport
7-11 ......
12 Armindo Araujo WRC
14 Palmeirinha Rally
and Mini has the historic 37 and 52

**sesIgnose** · 01-15-2012, 11:54 PM

Also Paulo Nobre's Palmeirinha Rally M2 team is run by Motorsport Italia

Who are the same as Ralliart Italy, as Kosciuszko's car is run by them too

01-13-2012, 07:28 PM	#1
Jesslovers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 366 Senior Member	M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams I see Tanak is in, but what about the rest of the teams under the M-Sport umbrella? Østberg Henning Wilson Prokop and others that are in and out What ford teams will run on their own, and who will be running under the M-Sport flag? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-13-2012, 07:43 PM	#2
jgztw2es Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 291 Senior Member	Prokop have a privateer team, he dont even rent cars from M-sport. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-14-2012, 02:09 AM	#3
diemeareendup Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Prokop have a privateer team, he dont even rent cars from M-sport. I think that's only correct regarding his Fiesta S2000 - his new Fiesta WRC is run and prepared by M-Sport (not 100% sure, but pretty close) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-14-2012, 02:26 AM	#4
VEGLAS - SPB Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	Maybe Mads could be with Team Adapta? And maybe with Henning and Wilson? Many maybes... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-14-2012, 02:58 AM	#5
GetsTan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 691 Senior Member	I think that's only correct regarding his Fiesta S2000 - his new Fiesta WRC is run and prepared by M-Sport (not 100% sure, but pretty close) You are 100% wrong Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-14-2012, 03:02 AM	#6
gWhya5ct Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	It's fully run by Prokop's team isn't it? Just getting help from a Msport engineer often probably such stuff. Many privateers can have that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-14-2012, 10:52 PM	#7
Phassetus Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	It's fully run by Prokop's team isn't it? Just getting help from a Msport engineer often probably such stuff. Many privateers can have that. I think that's part of the deal when you buy an WRC car, engineer and his laptop comes with it (so to speak) at least for a certain period, no? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 12:28 AM	#8
furillo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 439 Senior Member	Yes for Prodrive. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 12:53 AM	#9
gWhya5ct Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Msport too, that's what I know. But u have to pay for the engineer per rally for Prodrive that is, probably for Msport too.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 01:26 AM	#10
diemeareendup Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	You are 100% wrong Ok, then i stand corrected But then he's the first to have a Fiesta WRC run/prepared another team than M-Sport, correct? I recall last year at Rally GB that Colin Clark (WRR) said his Fiesta WRC wasn't run by his own team like the S2000 was. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 01:34 AM	#11
GetsTan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 691 Senior Member	He is not the only one. Östberg today used his own new Fiesta in Norway. Car of Al Rahji is I think also run separately by Simon Jean-Joseph Racing. I know about others going to be used by private teams in this season. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 01:47 AM	#12
diemeareendup Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	He is not the only one. Östberg today used his own new Fiesta in Norway. Car of Al Rahji is I think also run separately by Simon Jean-Joseph Racing. I know about others going to be used by private teams in this season. Ok, I was only refering to WRC rounds and and WRC cars (post 2011) and there I think he will be the first not to have his Fiesta WRC run by M-Sport. Is his team still called Jipocar Racing Team? Interesting to see if Østberg will have his run by Adapta/Team Østberg. PS: It's Ö in Sweden and Ø in Norway and Denmark .. same sound but differnt letter Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 02:20 AM	#13
Jesslovers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 366 Senior Member	PS: It's Ö in Sweden and Ø in Norway and Denmark .. same sound but differnt letter Ö also in Finland, like in Grönholm for instance. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 03:16 AM	#14
flienianO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Is his team still called Jipocar Racing Team? no, it's CZECH FORD NATIONAL TEAM. Ö also in Finland, like in Grönholm for instance. Ö is also in Estonian, but still i write östberg, than copy-pasting Ø from somewhere. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 03:29 AM	#15
Jesslovers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 366 Senior Member	Ö is also in Estonian, but still i write östberg, than copy-pasting Ø from somewhere. please do!! But lets go back on the road, who are the 4 in the 2 M-Sport teams people ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 03:45 AM	#16
GetsTan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 691 Senior Member	PS: It's Ö in Sweden and Ø in Norway and Denmark .. same sound but differnt letter Ah, ok. I don't have this letter on my keyboard no, it's CZECH FORD NATIONAL TEAM. Yes and no... Prokop's team is Jipocar Racing but they are entered in WRC as Czech Ford National Team because they get some support from Ford and Czech ASN. Jipocar is a logistic company of Prokop's father. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 03:57 PM	#17
flienianO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Yes and no... Prokop's team is Jipocar Racing but they are entered in WRC as Czech Ford National Team because they get some support from Ford and Czech ASN. Jipocar is a logistic company of Prokop's father. so formally team's name is Czech Ford National Team, but in reality it's Jipocar Racing Team. Only the name has changed? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 05:37 PM	#18
diemeareendup Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	so formally team's name is Czech Ford National Team, but in reality it's Jipocar Racing Team. Only the name has changed? It's very common in WRC that entry-name is different from team-name. E.g. the M2 team Armindo Arauju WRC is the entry name but the team running/preparing the car is Motorsport Italia. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 07:35 PM	#19
DoctorTOneery Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	Also Paulo Nobre's Palmeirinha Rally M2 team is run by Motorsport Italia There is some room on the Manufactuere list for M2 teams 1-2 Citroen 3-4 Ford WRT 5-6 M-Sport 7-11 ...... 12 Armindo Araujo WRC 14 Palmeirinha Rally and Mini has the historic 37 and 52 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-15-2012, 11:54 PM	#20
sesIgnose Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	Also Paulo Nobre's Palmeirinha Rally M2 team is run by Motorsport Italia Who are the same as Ralliart Italy, as Kosciuszko's car is run by them too Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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