[leijggigf]

Your are 'right', given that Webber's average qualifying position this season is 4th, it must be the car!

Alright, lemme break it down for you: That must make Webber about as good means=today Webber about tenth off pole
Now how many people would actually make a statement like that mean=see my first comment
Webber is psychologically beat in that team like Massa @ Ferrari.

[leijggigf]

i believe that vettel would be at the front in a McLaren or Ferrari

Seriously?

[yharmon6614]

Seriously?

Hes in front 'cos hes got the best car...He couldnt do it in a ferrari IMO...

[kKFB1BxX]

This is a much better camera IMO. Much more sturdy and at eye level.

This was also in 2002 so I don't know why FOM just cottoned onto it.

Paul Tracy onboard Montreal 2002 helmcam - YouTube

[RotsLoado]

Found this from Interlagos 2008.

[Mister.levitra]

Found this from Interlagos 2008.

that camera sits a bit too low. IMO

[shemadagaswer]

Alright, lemme break it down for you: means=today Webber about tenth off pole
mean=see my first comment
Webber is psychologically beat in that team like Massa @ Ferrari.

News Flash, Webber was 2 tenths of pole today. Keep skewing reality if it suits you.

[shemadagaswer]

that camera sits a bit too low. IMO

Maybe they attached it to his jaws!

[RotsLoado]

that camera sits a bit too low. IMO

Yeah it does. They should've attached it to the side of the inner helmet, like ChampCar did for many years, as linked above.

F1 has been pretty slow with incorporating new cameras, comparatively. I daresay most viewers would rather see this camera instead of the ultra slow motion cameras, the only use of which seem to be replaying some completely nondescript event.

[Hervams]

Seb said on the radio he felt like "Senna in '91"... Wait for him and Lewis to get bashed for daring to compare themselves at any point lol!!

[Mister.levitra]

Seb said on the radio he felt like "Senna in '91"... Wait for him and Lewis to get bashed for daring to compare themselves at any point lol!!

no need Ted K from BBC aptly did it for him and I somewhat have to agree.
1. I am not sure exactly how bad that car was seeing that it was still easily then 2nd best car of the day
2. you can't compare cruising around with push botton gear shifts to manualy having to short shift the gears over the course fo an entire race

anyway, I give him some credit for knowing his history
but the cynic in me says that it seemed planned for Webber to win and even if there was some problem with Vettel's car, it wasn't nearly as serious as to affect his overall race strategy.
If the car was that seriously damaged and doing the lap times it was in the few laps before Webber's incident, then accordingly, Both Button and Alonso would have easily caught him up, but after Webber passed him, somehow the car seemd to have blanced out in terms of time and h cruised for the remainder of the race. Even allowing himself to speed up and do some good times at the end.
Gearbox issues get worse of the course of a race, not better.

[SkHukV3N]

Well, a race that seemed to reflect the season a bit. Red Bull out in front (though uncharacteristically including Webber too), Massa again no higher than 5th. Top3 teams out at the front and other teams having no chance of getting a look into top results. Schumacher getting involved in something again, although this time through no fault of his own.

So like Häkkinen in 1997 and Montoya in 2004, Webber gets his sole consolation win of the season at the very last race. Interesting that now only at the end of the season Vettel has started suffering from unluck, but this hasn't mattered for the championship any more. Button v Alonso was solved pretty much like at Spa and Monza. Alonso in front most of the time, but Button passing him in the end with Alonso struggling on medium compound. Good to see Jenson clinching that P2 in overall standings he richly deserves.

Adrian Sutil - possibly driver of the race, ending his Force India career in style. Amazing to see, how close to Renault FI managed to get in the championship by the end. Good to see Kobayashi coming back to his old self at the end of the season again, having had two decent races and two points finishes to round the season out with. Senna dropping backwards in the race was perhaps suspected, penalty and a malfunctioning car didn't help though.

[shemadagaswer]

no need Ted K from BBC aptly did it for him and I somewhat have to agree.
1. I am not sure exactly how bad that car was seeing that it was still easily then 2nd best car of the day
2. you can't compare cruising around with push botton gear shifts to manualy having to short shift the gears over the course fo an entire race

anyway, I give him some credit for knowing his history
but the cynic in me says that it seemed planned for Webber to win and even if there was some problem with Vettel's car, it wasn't nearly as serious as to affect his overall race strategy.
If the car was that seriously damaged and doing the lap times it was in the few laps before Webber's incident, then accordingly, Both Button and Alonso would have easily caught him up, but after Webber passed him, somehow the car seemd to have blanced out in terms of time and h cruised for the remainder of the race. Even allowing himself to speed up and do some good times at the end.
Gearbox issues get worse of the course of a race, not better.

What a bout the much higher G forces compared to 1991?

[shemadagaswer]

Have to mention Sutil's great drive, this guy deserves a race seat next year, so those muppets in charge of teams with seats available out there should get a good look at him, unlike chief muppet Vijay Mallya who pushed out the best driver to ever drive one of his cars.

Also worth mentioning that Kobayashi saved 7th place for Sauber and quite a few millions along with that.

[limpoporanique]

that camera sits a bit too low. IMO

Probably too high as on the helmet right above the visor.

I do not understand how any of these drivers can see well enough to maintain control and drive well in traffic sitting so low in the car.

[Hervams]

What a bout the much higher G forces compared to 1991?

I don't think there is any question the cars are alot easier to drive now than they were in 1991.

[aAaBecker]

I don't think there is any question the cars are alot easier to drive now than they were in 1991.

Swings and roundabouts. Semi-auto 'boxes must be a piece of cake compared to constantly taking one hand off the wheel to change gear manually, but there's also the huge array of parameters which must be adjusted throughout a lap which simply didn't happen in '91. I'd say the sport has become less physical but more cerebral over the decades.

[Hervams]

I was making reference to the physical side of things as it was stated Vettel had to put up with as much if not more than Senna's 1991 performance which I didn't agree with.

[poRmawayncmop]

but the cynic in me says that it seemed planned for Webber to win and even if there was some problem with Vettel's car, it wasn't nearly as serious as to affect his overall race strategy.
If the car was that seriously damaged and doing the lap times it was in the few laps before Webber's incident, then accordingly, Both Button and Alonso would have easily caught him up, but after Webber passed him, somehow the car seemd to have blanced out in terms of time and h cruised for the remainder of the race. Even allowing himself to speed up and do some good times at the end.
Gearbox issues get worse of the course of a race, not better.

If there is any genuine suggestion that the 'gearbox problem' was merely a way to give Webber a win, is this not (quite honestly) a matter for the police, as an example of race-fixing?

[MannyLopez]

Ohh dear