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**byncnombmub** · 10-28-2011, 09:43 PM

Why? Lots of drivers have missed or ignored yellow flags in the past, hell, even black flags until they were told by their team via radio to come in. This was a simple confusion created by the stupid warning light system, and driver error as well. Although you can exaggerate it if you want.

Come on Captain. You know ioan better than that.

It would be simple confusion, the Indian track, the FIA and all us biased haters fault if it had of happened to Seb but as it's Lewis.......

**Adollobdeb** · 10-28-2011, 09:51 PM

Come on Captain. You know ioan better than that.

It would be simple confusion, the Indian track, the FIA and all us biased haters fault if it had of happened to Seb but as it's Lewis.......

It usually is Lewis, his reputation isn´t helping him.

**Hervams** · 10-29-2011, 01:08 AM

Well Lewis has hindered his weekend ebfore its begun, so lets hope he does better in the race. A silly error but not the first driver to ignore a flag in practice although this is the second time for Lewis.

**EmxATW5m** · 10-29-2011, 06:10 AM

with out trying to pick a fight
Hamilton accepts grid penalty - Yahoo! Eurosport
"I was engaging the DRS when the yellow flags were out and you're not allowed to," Hamilton admitted

**D6b2v1HA** · 10-29-2011, 08:18 AM

Incidently I wonder for how long is McLaren going to tolerate what seems to be an endless but colmpletly avoidable string of incidents. Is Lewis over F1 already? I think Button is actually benifitting from Lewis constant failures.

**carfAball** · 10-29-2011, 03:58 PM

Idiotic penalty as always.

**Hervams** · 10-29-2011, 04:03 PM

with out trying to pick a fight
Hamilton accepts grid penalty - Yahoo! Eurosport

He couldn't any else really as its his fault. Incidently I've apologized to you about our previous disagreement and am hoping we can put that behind us. I have publically apologized and have PM'ed you through the other forum. I hope you've read them

**Enjknsua** · 10-29-2011, 06:02 PM

Lewis should have done a Mika and gone through flat chat while holding his hand up.

Dont think Mika would get away with that these days.

Seriously though although there seemed to be a mis communication between the FIA and marshalls ultimatly if a driver has yellow flags waving in front of him he should slow down in case the green light bby FIA is wrong. The marshalls may still seem something on track that the FIA have missed. e.g debris or a marshall himself.

Flags are there right on the scene and should be first in priority.

**uMG6uOSo** · 10-30-2011, 03:35 AM

Interesting, nobody complains that Sergio gets the same penalty...

**Biassasecumma** · 10-30-2011, 03:40 AM

Interesting, nobody complains that Sergio gets the same penalty...

Who's Sergio? Does he drive for Mclaren? Is he Brit?

**JamesTornC** · 10-30-2011, 11:45 AM

Lewis should have done a Mika and gone through flat chat while holding his hand up.

Dont think Mika would get away with that these days.

Seriously though although there seemed to be a mis communication between the FIA and marshalls ultimatly if a driver has yellow flags waving in front of him he should slow down in case the green light bby FIA is wrong. The marshalls may still seem something on track that the FIA have missed. e.g debris or a marshall himself.

Flags are there right on the scene and should be first in priority.

So when that Marshal was waving a green flag during d'Ambrosio's incident, a few minutes after the session was red flagged, should the drivers assume that the FIA is wrong and continue??

**ayWCZ7VT** · 10-30-2011, 05:12 PM

someone needs to remove the lewis-massa magnets from their respective cars

**RotsLoado** · 10-30-2011, 05:25 PM

That penalty for Massa was easily the most insanely moronic stewards decision this year.

**ChexEcodece** · 10-30-2011, 05:59 PM

I have literally no idea what the rules are anymore.

**Biassasecumma** · 10-30-2011, 06:10 PM

The rules are OK, the interpretation is crappy or should I say totally random.

**StitlyDute** · 10-30-2011, 06:24 PM

footage shows massa repeatedly checking his mirrors... question remains: did he see him? Ham himself says he can't see anything

**amberamuletuk** · 10-30-2011, 06:24 PM

I have literally no idea what the rules are anymore.

It is a strange one, I was stunned to hear that it was Massa who was getting the drive-thru!
The Stewards have access to Telemetry and more camera angles though, I can only imagine that it's something that isn't apparant to the rest of us. I hope they will release that information.

**Biassasecumma** · 10-30-2011, 06:27 PM

footage shows massa repeatedly checking his mirrors... question remains: did he see him? Ham himself says he can't see anything

he can't even see the double waived yellow flags so he might be right!

**vulikox** · 10-30-2011, 06:28 PM

Hamilton's taken it on the chin before now for not seeing somebody in his blind spot, and it did appear that Massa checked his mirrors more than once. So either Massa didn't see the McLaren, in which case he wasn't paying attention; or he did but chose to turn in anyway.

Lewis has been punished for similar when it's been the other way round, so I think Massa's penalty was just.

**Grarypealumma** · 10-30-2011, 06:35 PM

Racing incident. Does anyone know what a racing incident is?

That penalty for Massa was easily the most insanely moronic stewards decision this year.

Visit the stewards 5 times in a season and collect a 'Get Out of Jail Free Card'.

10-28-2011, 09:43 PM	#21
byncnombmub Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 489 Senior Member	Why? Lots of drivers have missed or ignored yellow flags in the past, hell, even black flags until they were told by their team via radio to come in. This was a simple confusion created by the stupid warning light system, and driver error as well. Although you can exaggerate it if you want. Come on Captain. You know ioan better than that. It would be simple confusion, the Indian track, the FIA and all us biased haters fault if it had of happened to Seb but as it's Lewis....... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-28-2011, 09:51 PM	#22
Adollobdeb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	Come on Captain. You know ioan better than that. It would be simple confusion, the Indian track, the FIA and all us biased haters fault if it had of happened to Seb but as it's Lewis....... It usually is Lewis, his reputation isn´t helping him. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2011, 01:08 AM	#23
Hervams Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	Well Lewis has hindered his weekend ebfore its begun, so lets hope he does better in the race. A silly error but not the first driver to ignore a flag in practice although this is the second time for Lewis. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2011, 06:10 AM	#24
EmxATW5m Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	with out trying to pick a fight Hamilton accepts grid penalty - Yahoo! Eurosport "I was engaging the DRS when the yellow flags were out and you're not allowed to," Hamilton admitted Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2011, 08:18 AM	#25
D6b2v1HA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	Incidently I wonder for how long is McLaren going to tolerate what seems to be an endless but colmpletly avoidable string of incidents. Is Lewis over F1 already? I think Button is actually benifitting from Lewis constant failures. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2011, 03:58 PM	#26
carfAball Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 599 Senior Member	Idiotic penalty as always. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2011, 04:03 PM	#27
Hervams Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	with out trying to pick a fight Hamilton accepts grid penalty - Yahoo! Eurosport He couldn't any else really as its his fault. Incidently I've apologized to you about our previous disagreement and am hoping we can put that behind us. I have publically apologized and have PM'ed you through the other forum. I hope you've read them Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-29-2011, 06:02 PM	#28
Enjknsua Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	Lewis should have done a Mika and gone through flat chat while holding his hand up. Dont think Mika would get away with that these days. Seriously though although there seemed to be a mis communication between the FIA and marshalls ultimatly if a driver has yellow flags waving in front of him he should slow down in case the green light bby FIA is wrong. The marshalls may still seem something on track that the FIA have missed. e.g debris or a marshall himself. Flags are there right on the scene and should be first in priority. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 03:35 AM	#29
uMG6uOSo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 450 Senior Member	Interesting, nobody complains that Sergio gets the same penalty... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 03:40 AM	#30
Biassasecumma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 740 Senior Member	Interesting, nobody complains that Sergio gets the same penalty... Who's Sergio? Does he drive for Mclaren? Is he Brit? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 11:45 AM	#31
JamesTornC Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 319 Senior Member	Lewis should have done a Mika and gone through flat chat while holding his hand up. Dont think Mika would get away with that these days. Seriously though although there seemed to be a mis communication between the FIA and marshalls ultimatly if a driver has yellow flags waving in front of him he should slow down in case the green light bby FIA is wrong. The marshalls may still seem something on track that the FIA have missed. e.g debris or a marshall himself. Flags are there right on the scene and should be first in priority. So when that Marshal was waving a green flag during d'Ambrosio's incident, a few minutes after the session was red flagged, should the drivers assume that the FIA is wrong and continue?? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 05:12 PM	#32
ayWCZ7VT Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 411 Senior Member	someone needs to remove the lewis-massa magnets from their respective cars Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 05:25 PM	#33
RotsLoado Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 634 Senior Member	That penalty for Massa was easily the most insanely moronic stewards decision this year. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 05:59 PM	#34
ChexEcodece Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	I have literally no idea what the rules are anymore. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 06:10 PM	#35
Biassasecumma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 740 Senior Member	The rules are OK, the interpretation is crappy or should I say totally random. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 06:24 PM	#36
StitlyDute Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	footage shows massa repeatedly checking his mirrors... question remains: did he see him? Ham himself says he can't see anything Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 06:24 PM	#37
amberamuletuk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 363 Senior Member	I have literally no idea what the rules are anymore. It is a strange one, I was stunned to hear that it was Massa who was getting the drive-thru! The Stewards have access to Telemetry and more camera angles though, I can only imagine that it's something that isn't apparant to the rest of us. I hope they will release that information. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 06:27 PM	#38
Biassasecumma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 740 Senior Member	footage shows massa repeatedly checking his mirrors... question remains: did he see him? Ham himself says he can't see anything he can't even see the double waived yellow flags so he might be right! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 06:28 PM	#39
vulikox Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 638 Senior Member	Hamilton's taken it on the chin before now for not seeing somebody in his blind spot, and it did appear that Massa checked his mirrors more than once. So either Massa didn't see the McLaren, in which case he wasn't paying attention; or he did but chose to turn in anyway. Lewis has been punished for similar when it's been the other way round, so I think Massa's penalty was just. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-30-2011, 06:35 PM	#40
Grarypealumma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	Racing incident. Does anyone know what a racing incident is? That penalty for Massa was easily the most insanely moronic stewards decision this year. Visit the stewards 5 times in a season and collect a 'Get Out of Jail Free Card'. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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