[ERC] Rally Vinho Madeira 2011 - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**Essefsbyday** · 07-19-2011, 06:14 PM

Well... this year Rally Vinho Madeira won't be for sure at the level of previous years.. mainly because of his retirement from IRC... so.. an absolutly normal entry list for an ERC Event...

Official site
Rali Vinho da Madeira

Main drivers
Luca Rossetti
Antonín Tlusťák
Manuel de Micheli
Luca Betti
Szymon Ruta
Bruno Magalhães
Maciej Oleksowicz
Victor Sá
Rok Turk

**eljugadordepoquer** · 07-19-2011, 11:22 PM

Should be a battle between Rox and Bruno i suppose. Can not see anybody else being a real threath to those two, except if Camacho will run?

**Essefsbyday** · 07-19-2011, 11:57 PM

Should be a battle between Rox and Bruno i suppose. Can not see anybody else being a real threath to those two, except if Camacho will run?

No... there is Vitor Sa with a similar car to Magalhaes... but... his local knowledge isn't enough to battle for the first place...

**Zfdeisde** · 07-20-2011, 04:42 AM

Well... this year Rally Vinho Madeira won't be for sure at the level of previous years.. mainly because of his retirement from IRC... so.. an absolutly normal entry list for an ERC Event...

This is much more than I expected. In last two years there werent so big interest in ERC (because of costs), so this year entry list is very positive for me.

**DialOne** · 07-20-2011, 04:48 AM

Should be good, like last two years I am going, this time in Navier Armas so should be able to get a close peek at some trucks from teams.

**cokLoolioli** · 07-20-2011, 07:15 AM

This is much more than I expected. In last two years there werent so big interest in ERC (because of costs), so this year entry list is very positive for me.

Indeed almost every rally has like minimal 5 ERC registered drivers! And the coverage that Luca is delivering with Ellegy is also great for those teams then

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**Essefsbyday** · 07-20-2011, 03:20 PM

This is much more than I expected. In last two years there werent so big interest in ERC (because of costs), so this year entry list is very positive for me.

Have you noticed the level of the entries??? hum

This is probably the worst entry list of RVM since 70's....

**stastony** · 07-20-2011, 05:04 PM

Is the itinerary available anywhere? I can't find it.

Hi, btw! I have been following this forum for quite a while, but this is my first post.

**Essefsbyday** · 07-20-2011, 05:12 PM

Is the itinerary available anywhere? I can't find it.

Hi, btw! I have been following this forum for quite a while, but this is my first post.

Detailed route
Rali Vinho da Madeira

**Zfdeisde** · 07-20-2011, 07:46 PM

Have you noticed the level of the entries??? hum

This is probably the worst entry list of RVM since 70's....

Yes, but I think it is maximum which should be done without IRC.

**triarmarm** · 07-23-2011, 09:31 PM

Have you noticed the level of the entries??? hum

This is probably the worst entry list of RVM since 70's....

For me it's quite obvious and logical. If only 8 out of 12 rallies count for ERC standings, what rallies would you eliminate from your programme if you were a driver in a private team? The ones that are most expensive and far away. For drivers from Poland, Bulgaria or Italy it's over 5000 km and the most expensive rally in the calendar. For IRC drivers it's another story, because they are backed by manufacturers...

The golden years of rallying are long gone and I will never understand why FIA keeps 12 rallies in the ERC calendar. It's idiotic! This championship should have maximum 10 rounds or even less!

**cokLoolioli** · 07-23-2011, 10:19 PM

There u say it all Idiotic and FIA that's doing their job same thing with letting S2000 to die..

**Darnisg** · 07-28-2011, 02:28 AM

Mmmmh, not a bad entrylist...for an ERC event

http://ralismadeira.com/images/stori...tosrvm2011.pdf

**kSmica** · 07-28-2011, 03:04 AM

In my opinion it is a very bad entry list, especially as the organisers said they will rent some cars for very known foreign drivers. They said that Patrick Snijers with the Mini should come to their rally, but as always they are saying that some legends will come to their event and when we see the entry list, it isn't true...

**Essefsbyday** · 07-28-2011, 06:00 AM

In Madeira that's like a "tradition"....

**DialOne** · 07-28-2011, 06:03 AM

Déjà vu

My fellow countrymen from Madeira, I think Paulo Fontes should leave if you want a top rally again.

**Essefsbyday** · 08-02-2011, 03:46 PM

A "nice" video of previous RVM editions...

1º Especial Rali RTP-Madeira Rali Vinho Madeira 2011 on Vimeo

It looks like Symon Ruta had an off yesterday during a test session, the team is trying to repaire the car...

**Essefsbyday** · 08-02-2011, 10:28 PM

Ruta's car after yesterday crash...

Photos du mur | Facebook

**Essefsbyday** · 08-04-2011, 06:27 PM

Shakedown is running...

Rali Vinho da Madeira

**Darnisg** · 08-04-2011, 10:21 PM

SD announced the "colour": will be a battle between Rox and Magalhaes...then comes the rest

07-19-2011, 06:14 PM	#1
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	[ERC] Rally Vinho Madeira 2011 Well... this year Rally Vinho Madeira won't be for sure at the level of previous years.. mainly because of his retirement from IRC... so.. an absolutly normal entry list for an ERC Event... Official site Rali Vinho da Madeira Main drivers Luca Rossetti Antonín Tlusťák Manuel de Micheli Luca Betti Szymon Ruta Bruno Magalhães Maciej Oleksowicz Victor Sá Rok Turk Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-19-2011, 11:22 PM	#2
eljugadordepoquer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 439 Senior Member	Should be a battle between Rox and Bruno i suppose. Can not see anybody else being a real threath to those two, except if Camacho will run? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-19-2011, 11:57 PM	#3
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Should be a battle between Rox and Bruno i suppose. Can not see anybody else being a real threath to those two, except if Camacho will run? No... there is Vitor Sa with a similar car to Magalhaes... but... his local knowledge isn't enough to battle for the first place... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2011, 04:42 AM	#4
Zfdeisde Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	Well... this year Rally Vinho Madeira won't be for sure at the level of previous years.. mainly because of his retirement from IRC... so.. an absolutly normal entry list for an ERC Event... This is much more than I expected. In last two years there werent so big interest in ERC (because of costs), so this year entry list is very positive for me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2011, 04:48 AM	#5
DialOne Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	Should be good, like last two years I am going, this time in Navier Armas so should be able to get a close peek at some trucks from teams. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2011, 07:15 AM	#6
cokLoolioli Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 562 Senior Member	This is much more than I expected. In last two years there werent so big interest in ERC (because of costs), so this year entry list is very positive for me. Indeed almost every rally has like minimal 5 ERC registered drivers! And the coverage that Luca is delivering with Ellegy is also great for those teams then . Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2011, 03:20 PM	#7
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	This is much more than I expected. In last two years there werent so big interest in ERC (because of costs), so this year entry list is very positive for me. Have you noticed the level of the entries??? hum This is probably the worst entry list of RVM since 70's.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2011, 05:04 PM	#8
stastony Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Is the itinerary available anywhere? I can't find it. Hi, btw! I have been following this forum for quite a while, but this is my first post. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2011, 05:12 PM	#9
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Is the itinerary available anywhere? I can't find it. Hi, btw! I have been following this forum for quite a while, but this is my first post. Detailed route Rali Vinho da Madeira Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2011, 07:46 PM	#10
Zfdeisde Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	Have you noticed the level of the entries??? hum This is probably the worst entry list of RVM since 70's.... Yes, but I think it is maximum which should be done without IRC. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-23-2011, 09:31 PM	#11
triarmarm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 369 Senior Member	Have you noticed the level of the entries??? hum This is probably the worst entry list of RVM since 70's.... For me it's quite obvious and logical. If only 8 out of 12 rallies count for ERC standings, what rallies would you eliminate from your programme if you were a driver in a private team? The ones that are most expensive and far away. For drivers from Poland, Bulgaria or Italy it's over 5000 km and the most expensive rally in the calendar. For IRC drivers it's another story, because they are backed by manufacturers... The golden years of rallying are long gone and I will never understand why FIA keeps 12 rallies in the ERC calendar. It's idiotic! This championship should have maximum 10 rounds or even less! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-23-2011, 10:19 PM	#12
cokLoolioli Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 562 Senior Member	There u say it all Idiotic and FIA that's doing their job same thing with letting S2000 to die.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-28-2011, 02:28 AM	#13
Darnisg Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	Mmmmh, not a bad entrylist...for an ERC event http://ralismadeira.com/images/stori...tosrvm2011.pdf Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-28-2011, 03:04 AM	#14
kSmica Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 631 Senior Member	In my opinion it is a very bad entry list, especially as the organisers said they will rent some cars for very known foreign drivers. They said that Patrick Snijers with the Mini should come to their rally, but as always they are saying that some legends will come to their event and when we see the entry list, it isn't true... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-28-2011, 06:00 AM	#15
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	In Madeira that's like a "tradition".... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-28-2011, 06:03 AM	#16
DialOne Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	Déjà vu My fellow countrymen from Madeira, I think Paulo Fontes should leave if you want a top rally again. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2011, 03:46 PM	#17
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	A "nice" video of previous RVM editions... 1º Especial Rali RTP-Madeira Rali Vinho Madeira 2011 on Vimeo It looks like Symon Ruta had an off yesterday during a test session, the team is trying to repaire the car... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2011, 10:28 PM	#18
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Ruta's car after yesterday crash... Photos du mur \| Facebook Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2011, 06:27 PM	#19
Essefsbyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Shakedown is running... Rali Vinho da Madeira Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2011, 10:21 PM	#20
Darnisg Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	SD announced the "colour": will be a battle between Rox and Magalhaes...then comes the rest Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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