[echocassidyde]

Buemi

[Soulofpostar]

Can Seb overtake???

Some say no, but he did a good job of overtaking in the pitlane on the last lap

[bapimporb]

he has a drive though for hitting di resta on lap one and avoided it by crashing out.

Not really his fault that dumber Buemi did change direction in the braking zone, the biggest no no in racing. So I am not sure why you think Heidfeld is at fault for it, bias maybe?!

[Nikkkola]

Buemi's move was definitely the dumbest of the race, it was like button's chop job on hamilton in canada except without the difficult conditions to conveniently blade it on.

[bapimporb]

There was no advantage, unless you count the 2-3 tenths of aa second lead he had going into the pits. Commentators you were listening to are morons, you were no doubt watching BBC. Tell me how there is an advantage to being the one further down the track? You can't release into the track if the other car is even remotely close to yours. They had it completely wrong. The guy with the nearer pit area has the advantage.

True. The first and last pit boxes are the best positioned and most advantageous. Stupid commentators? Nothing new.

Anyway Ferrari did a crappy job, it took them 5 seconds when all teams do it under 4 seconds.

[zlopikanikanza]

Not really his fault that dumber Buemi did change direction in the braking zone, the biggest no no in racing. So I am not sure why you think Heidfeld is at fault for it, bias maybe?!

do you always have to claim bias!! FFS! I like Heidfield, he's in my FGP, I also don't like Buemi, I think he's rubbish. But in that case I don't think it was all Buemis fault, you could see he was looking in the mirrors on the other side looking for Nick as he drifted across, it was mostly his fault, but Nick as the follower could have avoided better i think than proceeding into a shrinking gap. I'd say 90-10 (maybe 80-20) in fault against Buemi, but it was Nicks second accident in not many laps, one of which he'd already been penalised for. it was not good stuff from him.

[zlopikanikanza]

Not really his fault that dumber Buemi did change direction in the braking zone, the biggest no no in racing. So I am not sure why you think Heidfeld is at fault for it, bias maybe?!

i like that you claim BS bias after amending my post to omit the part where i said the 2nd crash was mostly Buemi's fault.

Poor, poor form Ioan, really disappointed

[Nikkkola]

do you always have to claim bias!! FFS! I like Heidfield, he's in my FGP, I also don't like Buemi, I think he's rubbish. But in that case I don't think it was all Buemis fault, you could see he was looking in the mirrors on the other side looking for Nick as he drifted across, it was mostly his fault, but Nick as the follower could have avoided better i think than proceeding into a shrinking gap. I'd say 90-10 (maybe 80-20) in fault against Buemi, but it was Nicks second accident in not many laps, one of which he'd already been penalised for. it was not good stuff from him.

Are you for real man? Buemi knows damn well heidfeld is right on his ass. He looks in his mirror left-- no heidfeld. Gosh, where oh where could he be? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where he was. Even worse, heidfeld was halfway off ithe track already because he was responding to buemi's druken driving, Beumi was completely off the ideal racing line so there is no way he was just trying to take the corner.

[bapimporb]

do you always have to claim bias!!

You're biased, so what should I say?

[bapimporb]

i like that you claim BS bias after amending my post to omit the part where i said the 2nd crash was mostly Buemi's fault.

Poor, poor form Ioan, really disappointed

I can live with your disappointment.

[zlopikanikanza]

I can live with your disappointment.

you never fail to disappoint, i try to put up with your abbraisive manner cos on the whole you have some good points to make, but here you pull me up for mostly agreeing with you, only quote part of my post in trying to claim i am biased and then fail to apologise. Pretty standard behaviour

well f-you, not mincing my words and dancing around your crap any more, if you can't see that i was agreeing that accident was more buemi's than heidfields, but that i still pick Heidfield for donkey cos he got involved in a couple of avoidable accidents in a quarter of the race then you must be as blind as you think i am biased. you are full of it. if you don't know what "it" is then ask around, i am sure someone can fill in the gap for you.

It was a stupid accident and Buemi should arguably have got a penalty for it, but Heidfield was not entirely blameless IMO.

[zlopikanikanza]

You're biased, so what should I say?

back that up or take it back. Not in the mood. if your man enough to throw around accusations you need to man up and back it up, like your famous signature suggests you do.

[zlopikanikanza]

Are you for real man? Buemi knows damn well heidfeld is right on his ass. He looks in his mirror left-- no heidfeld. Gosh, where oh where could he be? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where he was. Even worse, heidfeld was halfway off ithe track already because he was responding to buemi's druken driving, Beumi was completely off the ideal racing line so there is no way he was just trying to take the corner.

yeah i agree. he made a mistake, he was looking one way for Nick and failed to notice he was on the other side and hit him. a foolish error, but i still maintain Nick could have avoided it by not persisting to try and move into a gap that was decreasing, whether it was his fault the gap was disappearing or not.

[bapimporb]

BTW Buemi has been penalized, which proves my point! Simples, as you like to say.

[zlopikanikanza]

BTW Buemi has been penalized, which proves my point! Simples, as you like to say.

and mine, which you'd realise if you ever bothered reading my posts, rather than selective quoting to try to score petty points

[Borrinas]

Buemi without a doubt. That waste of space needs to be sent back to a lower formula. They got rid of Bourdais who is obviously more talented than Buemi, why not get rid of Buemi?

[6Rexw51X]

Buemi, he's had way too many accidents anyway. I agree with Daniel, get rid of him.

[bapimporb]

Buemi without a doubt. That waste of space needs to be sent back to a lower formula. They got rid of Bourdais who is obviously more talented than Buemi, why not get rid of Buemi?

Agree. In fact both STR drivers are a waste of good F1 seats and should be replaced.

[CtEkM8Vq]

Buemi - for the dumb move on Heidfeld

Vettel - another example of his lack of killer instinct racecraft and leaving it down to the guys in pitlane to help him out.

do you always have to claim bias!! FFS! I like Heidfield, he's in my FGP, I also don't like Buemi, I think he's rubbish. But in that case I don't think it was all Buemis fault, you could see he was looking in the mirrors on the other side looking for Nick as he drifted across, it was mostly his fault, but Nick as the follower could have avoided better i think than proceeding into a shrinking gap. I'd say 90-10 (maybe 80-20) in fault against Buemi, but it was Nicks second accident in not many laps, one of which he'd already been penalised for. it was not good stuff from him.

Shrinking gap? First time of watching I thought the same but I suggest you re-watch it again.

It was not mis-timed banzai move.

NH legitmately makes a move before Buemi decided to cut across.

[Beerinkol]

Since the next turn was a left-right chicane, no way should Nick have stuck his nose in there. The move was not on even if SB would've given him room.