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wrefrinny 12-03-2010 12:51 PM

Alonso's the best of 2010 ?
 
Fernando Alonso has been voted as the best driver of 2010 in AUTOSPORT's exclusive team principals' top 10 poll.


1. Alonso 229
2. Vettel 220
3. Hamilton 196
4. Webber 146
5. Kubica 129
6. Button 86
7. Rosberg 68
8. Hulkenberg 17
. Massa 17
10. Barrichello 11


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88556


I am sure most of you will disagree with this poll, so post your list, vote on the poll and let's discuss it. Come on let's have some fun http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/s.gif

viawbambutt 12-03-2010 01:54 PM

I thought Hamilton was. Very fast and the most consistent out of the top runners. Kubica was also very consistent - lists like this always show that people make the association that drivers in the fastest cars are the best drivers. If the Renault was a fantastic machine this year Kubica would be much higher rated.

Hulkenberg was not better than Barrichello.

nuncEtedben 12-03-2010 02:54 PM

I voted Lewis on the basis that he only made 2 meaningful mistakes all year and was on fire in the first part of the season. To still go into the championship finale with a shout of the championship in arguably the 3rd best car was a real achievment for me.

It was close between him and Kubica though, Who was also fantastic and stood out at the 3 real drivers tracks of F1; Monaco, Spa and Suzuka.

slimfifa 12-03-2010 03:28 PM

How did Vettel get rated above Hamilton???????

Best cat by a country mile, preferential treatment within the team and he only squeaked it at the last race against the odds.

Luckiest driver of the year is more accurate.

Alonso did a great job all year but Hamilton gets it for me because he had the 3rd best car and outdrove it superbly.

ButKnillinoi 12-03-2010 05:07 PM

Hey, where's Schumi http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif

Raj_Copi_Jin 12-03-2010 05:07 PM

I don't see Kamui Kobayashi on the list.

ButKnillinoi 12-03-2010 05:09 PM

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How did Vettel get rated above Hamilton???????
Easy, the majority of people (voters) are idiots.

Dildos 12-03-2010 06:48 PM

this dose not add up

Alonso 229
Vettel 220
Hamilton 196
Webber 146
Kubica 129
Button 86
Rosberg 68
Hulkenberg 17
Massa 17
Barrichello 11

total=1119
/12 = 93.25

25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 = 93

3 votes out

Agehoobionibe 12-03-2010 07:12 PM

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I don't see Kamui Kobayashi on the list.
He is definitely in my top three. Rosberg and Kubica were most impressive in my books. Both kept a cool head and showed great consistency the year round, in cars that would never beat the big boys out raw anyway. All of the championship contenders in the closing stages had huge faults: Vettel was over-exhuberant, Webber lacked pace when it mattered, Alonso also lacked pace at times and was nowhere in the middle of the year, Hamilton made schoolboy errors and Button couldn't get comfortable with his car at a handful of races.

Trientoriciom 12-03-2010 08:09 PM

It's ridiculous to say anybody but Vettel was best this year. If it hadn't been for several mechanical failures, he would have clinched the title earlier and by a much larger margin. As such, all the talk about "best car" is also rubbish, because while it may well have been the fastest on many circuits, it was also comparatively unreliable in Vettel's case.

Hamilton is #2 for me. He really DID do an amazing job, but blew it with his 2 crashes.

Alonso would be 3rd - he did very well too, but that team orders thing just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. He had no team mate to compete with to lose points to, like Vettel did.

Webber was brilliant at times, but just didn't have the pace in the end, and those 2 unforced crashes were just stupid and cost him everything for no reason at all.

Button probably made the fewest mistakes of the top runners, but just wasn't quick enough ultimately.

Massa had a horrible year. Remains to be seen if we'll ever see him back at his best.

Kubica had a great year, but it could well be that the Renault was just a great package, and that Petrov is worse than we think http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...lies/smile.gif I don't buy into the Kubica hype, still.

Rosberg did have a great year, considering the dodgy car.

Kobayashi definitely gets an honorable mention!

electmobile 12-03-2010 10:53 PM

The producer of the Senna documentary http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/1...roducers-view/ and BBC journalist Andrew Benson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewben...1_drivers.html both picked Alonso.

This is what I originally posted on James Allen's site:

1. Hamilton – the all round package. Crucially he schooled RBR in Istanbul in how to race wheel to wheel with your team mate even with the benefit of team orders *cough* ’save fuel’ *splutter*

2. Vettel – he may be the champ but he arguably had the advantage of the better car. Too many questions asked of him when he’s not on pole/leading the race.

3. Webber – a formidable foe for Vettel and even RBR. Held his head up high when he questions the team. Vettel was better driver, arguably the quickest amongst the current F1 field.

4. Kubica – agains shown his talent that he deserves to be in an apex team challenging for the WDC.

5. Alonso – stolen a piece of Jimmie Johnson’s (multiple NASCAR Sprint Cup champ) mojo and peaked at the right moment which is why he easily trumps Button, even though by his standards Alonso’s form was disappointingly and embarrassingly shambolic in the first of the year.

Caluabdum 12-04-2010 12:23 AM

Quote:

this dose not add up

Alonso 229
Vettel 220
Hamilton 196
Webber 146
Kubica 129
Button 86
Rosberg 68
Hulkenberg 17
Massa 17
Barrichello 11

total=1119
/12 = 93.25

25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 = 93

3 votes out
Ferrari didnt reply and one team boss only supplied a top 3.

I agree with Autosports Mark Hughes on Hamilton being the best. OK, Monza was a silly mistake, but I still reckon Singapore was 50/50 with Webber. Alonso made a lot of mistakes early in the first half of the year, Vettel made two huge mistakes in Turkey and Spa and has still yet to prove that he can go wheel to wheel with anyone, Webber made a mess of Melbourne and seemed to crumble in Korea and Abu Dhabi, Button's sensitivity in a difficult car created a big gap in qualy to Hamilton at times and following a tech tweak to the breakes lead to a shocker in Korea.

CesseOveldset 12-04-2010 12:28 AM

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Alonso’s form was disappointingly and embarrassingly shambolic in the first of the year.
http://www.lolwut.com/layout/lolwut.jpg

Chooriwrocaey 12-04-2010 01:25 AM

They were all flawed this year. Vettel made too many mistakes, whilst Alonso was away with the Cornish fairies in the middle part of the year. Webber made a hash of two important races and Button, who seemed energised in the first 6 races or so got progressively more whingy as the season wore on - I wonder if there is a direct relationship between his increase in complaining and his decrease in speed http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif

That just leaves Hamilton of the front runners, and of those at the front I give him the nod - that car did not deserve to be in the title hunt till seasons end.

But my personal pick of the year is Rosberg. Under the radar for the most part. But he has been error free and finished best of the rest in the championship against all expectations.

Kghikeds 12-04-2010 02:32 AM

Quote:

this dose not add up

Alonso 229
Vettel 220
Hamilton 196
Webber 146
Kubica 129
Button 86
Rosberg 68
Hulkenberg 17
Massa 17
Barrichello 11

total=1119
/12 = 93.25

25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 = 93

3 votes out
Ferrari did cheat again for Alonso! http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif

Kghikeds 12-04-2010 02:36 AM

Vettel made mistakes.
Alonso made mistakes.
Webber also had unforced mistakes.
Hamilton also kept running into other cars for a few races.

Vettel had most mechanical DNFs and still got on top of it with impressive last 5 races, so he get's the nod from me.

Rosberg and Rubens were very consistent however not fast enough.

occurrini 12-04-2010 05:07 AM

What a useless poll... So Alonso gets the nod guys by a margin of 20.4% to 19.7% form the opinions of just 12 men.

I sure Vettel is gutted by the result; all he got was a lousy WDC title. I wonder who Horner voted for...?

Kiliunjubl 12-04-2010 06:44 AM

Quote:

Fernando Alonso has been voted as the best driver of 2010 in AUTOSPORT's exclusive team principals' top 10 poll.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88556


I am sure most of you will disagree with this poll, so post your list, vote on the poll and let's discuss it. Come on let's have some fun http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/s.gif
I agree http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...es/biggrin.gif
And even if I didn't, I wouldn't pretend to know better than the team principles http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/arrows.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif

onelovemp 12-04-2010 06:51 AM

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. I wonder who Horner voted for...?
It wasn't Mark Webber.

Trientoriciom 12-04-2010 07:30 AM

Alonso only won the poll because he got some of Massa's points http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


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