[ATTILAGLIC]

Nothing daft.

Another example of Vettel's racecraft called into question

When he tried to pass in Turkey and things went wrong people around here rubbished him because he was not thinking about the championship.
Today he did think about it and decided that 3rd place is better than nothing, so the same people will criticize him again.
Is this a case of double measures or what?!

[Edifsdubs]

If Hamilton was in the Red Bull, the championship would be wrapped up by now.

[ATTILAGLIC]

My point is that while Vettel is a very fast driver, he's not very good at overtaking, and somebody else in the same car probably would have done a better job. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Half of the forum threads are based on hypothetical questions, especially during the off season. If you don't wanna discuss on this thread, you have plenty of other threads on this forum to "waste" your time with.

If the mods think this thread is stupid, they may very well delete it.

It looked to me that today the only one good at overtaking was Rubens, so what would have Rubens done if he was in any of the other 24 cars on the grid?!

[Sleflanna]

If Hamilton was half a foot taller and was a half-brother of Kimi and they together part-owned a Formula Renault team that hired a close relative of Alonso's, would that make it more difficult for Trulli to pass Vettel around the back half of Spa in a few weeks if the weather forecast said it would rain but it had strangely turned out to be sunny?

I love hypotheticals. They're so useful.

[Katrinsitter]

If the mods think this thread is stupid, they may very well delete it.

If they deleted threads purely on the basis of being stupid, we wouldn't have much to talk about

[costamarianavia]

When he tried to pass in Turkey and things went wrong people around here rubbished him because he was not thinking about the championship.
Today he did think about it and decided that 3rd place is better than nothing, so the same people will criticize him again.
Is this a case of double measures or what?!

When he loses the championship at the end of the year by 3 points, he's gonna kick himself about today, and how he wasn't brave enough.

If Hamilton was in the Red Bull, the championship would be wrapped up by now.

True.

It looked to me that today the only one good at overtaking was Rubens, so what would have Rubens done if he was in any of the other 24 cars on the grid?!

In that Red Bull, Rubens probably would have overtaken Alonso.

If Hamilton was half a foot taller and was a half-brother of Kimi and they together part-owned a Formula Renault team that hired a close relative of Alonso's, would that make it more difficult for Trulli to pass Vettel around the back half of Spa in a few weeks if the weather forecast said it would rain but it had strangely turned out to be sunny?

I love hypotheticals. They're so useful.

So is your post in this thread.

If they deleted threads purely on the basis of being stupid, we wouldn't have much to talk about

Imagine how fun this forum would be if we only talked about qualifying and race results.

[ATTILAGLIC]

When he loses the championship at the end of the year by 3 points, he's gonna kick himself about today, and how he wasn't brave enough.

Looks to me that it bothers you more then it bothers him.

In that Red Bull, Rubens probably would have overtaken Alonso.

The probability being 1%.

[costamarianavia]

Looks to me that it bothers you more then it bothers him.

Yet I'm the one with the "I don't care" smile on my face, and Vettel on the podium looked like somebody stole his box of candies. SURE it didn't bother him.

[ATTILAGLIC]

Yet I'm the one with the "I don't care" smile on my face, and Vettel on the podium looked like somebody stole his box of candies. SURE it didn't bother him.

Whatever you want us to believe, it is obvious that you are bothered.

[statistica]

its hard to say, except that LH would have given it a go. if there is one thing he can do is be a daring overtaker. Unfortunately that is only 50% of the equation. The other being, would Alonso let him pass? I don;t think those two have had a proper joust on somewhat equal machinery for critical podium slots. Alonso in a renault the past 2 years was not a fair fight. It would be interesting to see if Alonso would stomach a pure pass from LH or have the whole thing end up in tears. Alonso is normally a fair driver in being passed, bu when it comes to LH, his perceived nemesis, all bets are off.

[statistica]

You forgot to mention Kimi

kimi was also a somewhat daring overtaker. I'd say he would have given it a shot as well

[statistica]

Sorry, why are we wasting time on such a daft hypothetical question?

Ok then, if Hakkinen was driving for Mercedes instead of Schumacher, would he have pushed Barrichello towards the pitwall? If Eddie Jordan was running Red Bull would they have pitted Webber on the same lap as Vettel? If a giant mutant wasp landed on the circuit and flew off with Massa's car, would they red flag the race?

you could have simply not read the thread and posted. I do that now and then in topics that I think are useless.

[statistica]

If Hamilton was in the Red Bull, the championship would be wrapped up by now.

lol,

probably, along with the 7 pole positions.


Vettel is still young though and there is no doubt he is quick, but is he going to become another Massa? Because I see a guy who can run away with races once in the lead but struggles to show that same form when asked to work his way to a victory. That's the difference between him and the 2 best on the grid Alonso and LH.

[statistica]

Whatever you want us to believe, it is obvious that you are bothered.

correction

Whatever you want me to believe, it is obvious that you are bothered.

[BoboStin]

I don't think it is possible to overtake unless you have a 2sec advantage.

[ATTILAGLIC]

correction

Whatever floats your raft.

[costamarianavia]

Whatever you want us to believe, it is obvious that you are bothered.

Oh I love these inane games, even though I don't understand how it's really played. Am I winning?

[fluistulkn]

kimi was also a somewhat daring overtaker. I'd say he would have given it a shot as well

I'd say it's a pretty good bet that if Montoya was in the RB he would have tried overtaking Fred and either would succeed, have several offs, and not quit trying until his engine expired

[ATTILAGLIC]

Oh I love these inane games, even though I don't understand how it's really played. Am I winning?

Don't know, you'll have to ask your fellow players.

[horoshevapola]

No, because its the Hungaroring, the Ferrari is faster on the streights and Alonso is one of the best defenders in the pitlane.

At many other tracks it might be a different matter but here it was never going to happen.