[VonErmad4]

How do you measure 10 car lengths from a screen?

And how do you measure it from behind a F1 car's steering wheel. Mission impossible. But hey we deal with the FIA and their 'intelligent' rules.

[VonErmad4]

Vettel looking like a petulent child on the podium!

The team screwed him again, what should he do? Be happy?!

[Andromino]

I'm waiting to see whether Vettel wants to make the team uncomfortable and mentions "team orders", I assume he was asked to hold back and let Webber get away?

[anolbom]

And how do you measure it from behind a F1 car's steering wheel. Mission impossible. But hey we deal with the FIA and their 'intelligent' rules.

Are you saying the FIA didn't actually measure the distance? Somehow, I doubt this.

[VonErmad4]

I'm waiting to see whether Vettel mentions "team orders", I assume he was asked to hold back and let Webber get away?

You're assuming right, which makes this another epic fail by RBR team management.

[anolbom]

The team screwed him again, what should he do? Be happy?!

It is surely up to the driver, and the driver alone, as to how closely they follow the safety car or the car in front behind the safety car. That is no-one else's responsibility.

[JacomoR]

me too.

Vettel has only himself to blame
even his initial pit entry was suspect in my book

Agreed

[Andromino]

You're assuming right, which makes this another epic fail by RBR team management.

Although Horner has flatly denied it on the BBC, we'll see.

[VonErmad4]

Are you saying the FIA didn't actually measure the distance? Somehow, I doubt this.

I am saying that it is impossible for the driver to measure anything from where they sit in the cars and all this crap about being as close as possible (subjective quantity at best) or keeping x car lengths (impossible to measure when sitting in a F1 car) are another example of crappy F1 rules made in a way that gives the FIA the chance to penalize or not a driver, function of the need to spice up the show or not.

[JacomoR]

Are you saying the FIA didn't actually measure the distance? Somehow, I doubt this.

The overhead shot made the distance between the cars easy to check

[anolbom]

The overhead shot made the distance between the cars easy to check

And I should think rather more advanced mechanisms than that make it very easy to ascertain the distances involved.

[VonErmad4]

It is surely up to the driver, and the driver alone, as to how closely they follow the safety car or the car in front behind the safety car. That is no-one else's responsibility.

Maybe we'll talk again when you won't be biased against a certain driver.

[EscaCsamas]

Horner has said there were no 'orders'

[VonErmad4]

Horner has said there were no 'orders'

Domenicali said the say one week ago.

[anolbom]

I am saying that it is impossible for the driver to measure anything from where they sit in the cars and all this crap about being as close as possible (subjective quantity at best) or keeping x car lengths (impossible to measure when sitting in a F1 car) are another example of crappy F1 rules made in a way that gives the FIA the chance to penalize or not a driver, function of the need to spice up the show or not.

Ah. I do agree that the 'as close as possible' is probably too subjective. But, as things stand, these are the rules which have to be followed. Most drivers seemed to manage to do this today.

[werkeeque]

Although Horner has flatly denied it on the BBC, we'll see.

With that stupid smirk on his face, as per usual.

He's turning into Ron Dennis

[Andromino]

Domenicali said the say one week ago.

I doubt Horner would say that if the radio would incriminate him. I'm not sure how you'd say "hold up the field and let Webber get away" without being completely obvious.

[VonErmad4]

With that stupid smirk on his face, as per usual.

He's turning into Ron Dennis

He's still far from being as smart as Ron though, whom for the record I never liked either.

[anolbom]

He's still far from being as smart as Ron though, whom for the record I never liked either.

I don't think the 'for the record' there is necessary. Most of us are, somehow, well aware of this fact already!

[VonErmad4]

I doubt Horner would say that if the radio would incriminate him. I'm not sure how you'd say "hold up the field and let Webber get away" without being completely obvious.

Is it me or today we've got much less radio communications, and almost impossible to hear ones on top of that?!
Looks like the FIA and FOM are not eager anymore to give us he possibility to judge for ourselves what goes on behind the curtains of the race.