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**spamkillerj** · 10-13-2009, 05:45 AM

On the red button, Rubens signs for williams and confirmed as team mate to Nico Haukenberg.
Not online yet but will be soon im sure

**ONLINEPHARMACYCHEAPILLS** · 10-13-2009, 06:10 AM

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/ru...-1225786106144

**Jon Woodgate** · 10-13-2009, 06:19 AM

That doesn't make a ton of sense for either party involved ..I wonder how that came to be

**buyviagraonlineusatoday** · 10-13-2009, 06:36 AM

this has been aroud for a few weeks if nico rosberg went to brawn gp then it would be rubens to williams

**jakitula** · 10-13-2009, 07:01 AM

On Euro News they showed Massa talking and Rubens arriving and unveiling his Brazilian Grand Prix helmet design - they did not confirm a Williams contract but just that it is speculation.

Until Rubens or Williams say so it is not a fact yet.

**phinno13** · 10-13-2009, 07:05 AM

Until Rubens or Williams say so it is not a fact yet.

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't it mean its not true!

**ZenDers** · 10-13-2009, 08:23 AM

But it is Sky News, and they always rush to break the news, sometimes forsaking accuracy. However I doubt they would get the name of the team or driver wrong LOL.

**vladekad** · 10-13-2009, 03:35 PM

If it is true, I wonder how Rubens will handle it mentally.
He seems a bit of a soft character who needs mental support and Williams is not known for baby-sitting their drivers like that.

But would be good to see him continue in F1 for a few more years.

**clubcughSheet** · 10-13-2009, 03:41 PM

I think it's mostly due to the Mercedes connection. Otherwise it makes no sense at all!

**NerbuitW** · 10-13-2009, 04:55 PM

Too many pieces of the jigsaw are still missing. Will Jenson stay on at Brawn? Will Kimi go to McLaren?

Until those drivers are confirmed in their seats (or to be leaving) the smaller players will just have to sit on their hands and wait.

For my money, if Williams lost Nico Rosberg to Brawn, Rubens would be a good choice. He has a reputation as a driver who can set up a car quickly - which could help Nico Hulk move into F1 quickly. You don't want a newbie like the Hulk trying to lead the team, or worse get Button as a team mate who seems clueless about setup.

**jakitula** · 10-13-2009, 05:30 PM

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't it mean its not true!

The issue is not whether or not it is true, it might be or not, we have no way of knowing until Rubens or Williams makes a statement.

Now if you wish to BELIEVE it, thats up to you but that does not change the reality - absent evidence it remains speculation.

**jakitula** · 10-13-2009, 05:36 PM

Too many pieces of the jigsaw are still missing. Will Jenson stay on at Brawn? Will Kimi go to McLaren?

Until those drivers are confirmed in their seats (or to be leaving) the smaller players will just have to sit on their hands and wait.

For my money, if Williams lost Nico Rosberg to Brawn, Rubens would be a good choice. He has a reputation as a driver who can set up a car quickly - which could help Nico Hulk move into F1 quickly. You don't want a newbie like the Hulk trying to lead the team, or worse get Button as a team mate who seems clueless about setup.

An experienced driver like Jenson I am sure understands a significant amount about a racing car - he has driven enough problematic cars.

But in the end it is irrelevant because thatis what the engineers are for and it has never prevented a good driver from winning.

The important issue is the ability of a driver to communicate the handling of a car to his engineer, have it remedied and improve.

We know that Raikkonen has no interest in the technical side and how much interest Jenson has is enoough to win and currently heading for a world title.

**Piediahef** · 10-13-2009, 06:40 PM

An experienced driver like Jenson I am sure understands a significant amount about a racing car - he has driven enough problematic cars.

But in the end it is irrelevant because thatis what the engineers are for and it has never prevented a good driver from winning.

The important issue is the ability of a driver to communicate the handling of a car to his engineer, have it remedied and improve.

We know that Raikkonen has no interest in the technical side and how much interest Jenson has is enoough to win and currently heading for a world title.

If Jenson understand so much how come he can't provide the feedback to make those poor cars better?

**gamecasta** · 10-13-2009, 07:40 PM

Too many pieces of the jigsaw are still missing. Will Jenson stay on at Brawn? Will Kimi go to McLaren?

Well, not that many pieces. Jenson will stay and Nico will join Brawn and Kimi McL. The question is who gets to pick... If its Kimi then Nico will be at Brawn. If its Lewis then Nico will be at McL.

Note: Nico doesnt get to pick at all

**MidwestMadman** · 10-13-2009, 07:48 PM

If Jenson understand so much how come he can't provide the feedback to make those poor cars better?

Nobody could have made the last 2 Honda's fast (massively flawed concept and no technical leadership from within the team) and the 01 Benetton went from being as slow as a Minardi to finishing on the podium, but that was more Mike Gascoine than the two drivers.

**Bonioners** · 10-13-2009, 07:51 PM

If Jenson understand so much how come he can't provide the feedback to make those poor cars better?

When ever these claims about Button come up Ross Brawn's comment earlier this season springs to mind: "The guys in the team told me Jenson was exceptional – I didn't see a lot of it last year, but now I believe them.”

**Piediahef** · 10-13-2009, 07:55 PM

Okay but he would say that. Anyway...I've not read this Rubens news anywhere else yet so has Sky jumped the gun or got genuine inside info?

**espenijij** · 10-13-2009, 08:14 PM

If this is indeed true, I wonder whether it's Rubens' own choice to leave Brawn or he has to make way for another driver? I guess Nico Rosberg, because I don't think Brawn can really afford to pay Kimi his salary.

**cmruloah** · 10-13-2009, 08:25 PM

Nobody could have made the last 2 Honda's fast (massively flawed concept and no technical leadership from within the team) and the 01 Benetton went from being as slow as a Minardi to finishing on the podium, but that was more Mike Gascoine than the two drivers.

Fisi did manage a points-scoring result early in the season (under the old system when only the top-6 scored) and when both drivers managed to finish the race, GF was 9-0 vs Jenson. Just saying.

**NerbuitW** · 10-13-2009, 09:17 PM

An experienced driver like Jenson I am sure understands a significant amount about a racing car - he has driven enough problematic cars.

How many times this season have we heard the statement, "Jenson reverted to Rubens setup"?

10-13-2009, 05:45 AM	#1
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10-13-2009, 07:01 AM	#5
jakitula Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	On Euro News they showed Massa talking and Rubens arriving and unveiling his Brazilian Grand Prix helmet design - they did not confirm a Williams contract but just that it is speculation. Until Rubens or Williams say so it is not a fact yet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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phinno13 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 560 Senior Member	Until Rubens or Williams say so it is not a fact yet. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't it mean its not true! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 08:23 AM	#7
ZenDers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 639 Senior Member	But it is Sky News, and they always rush to break the news, sometimes forsaking accuracy. However I doubt they would get the name of the team or driver wrong LOL. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 03:35 PM	#8
vladekad Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	If it is true, I wonder how Rubens will handle it mentally. He seems a bit of a soft character who needs mental support and Williams is not known for baby-sitting their drivers like that. But would be good to see him continue in F1 for a few more years. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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clubcughSheet Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	I think it's mostly due to the Mercedes connection. Otherwise it makes no sense at all! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 04:55 PM	#10
NerbuitW Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 449 Senior Member	Too many pieces of the jigsaw are still missing. Will Jenson stay on at Brawn? Will Kimi go to McLaren? Until those drivers are confirmed in their seats (or to be leaving) the smaller players will just have to sit on their hands and wait. For my money, if Williams lost Nico Rosberg to Brawn, Rubens would be a good choice. He has a reputation as a driver who can set up a car quickly - which could help Nico Hulk move into F1 quickly. You don't want a newbie like the Hulk trying to lead the team, or worse get Button as a team mate who seems clueless about setup. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 05:30 PM	#11
jakitula Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	Just because you haven't seen it doesn't it mean its not true! The issue is not whether or not it is true, it might be or not, we have no way of knowing until Rubens or Williams makes a statement. Now if you wish to BELIEVE it, thats up to you but that does not change the reality - absent evidence it remains speculation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 05:36 PM	#12
jakitula Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	Too many pieces of the jigsaw are still missing. Will Jenson stay on at Brawn? Will Kimi go to McLaren? Until those drivers are confirmed in their seats (or to be leaving) the smaller players will just have to sit on their hands and wait. For my money, if Williams lost Nico Rosberg to Brawn, Rubens would be a good choice. He has a reputation as a driver who can set up a car quickly - which could help Nico Hulk move into F1 quickly. You don't want a newbie like the Hulk trying to lead the team, or worse get Button as a team mate who seems clueless about setup. An experienced driver like Jenson I am sure understands a significant amount about a racing car - he has driven enough problematic cars. But in the end it is irrelevant because thatis what the engineers are for and it has never prevented a good driver from winning. The important issue is the ability of a driver to communicate the handling of a car to his engineer, have it remedied and improve. We know that Raikkonen has no interest in the technical side and how much interest Jenson has is enoough to win and currently heading for a world title. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 06:40 PM	#13
Piediahef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	An experienced driver like Jenson I am sure understands a significant amount about a racing car - he has driven enough problematic cars. But in the end it is irrelevant because thatis what the engineers are for and it has never prevented a good driver from winning. The important issue is the ability of a driver to communicate the handling of a car to his engineer, have it remedied and improve. We know that Raikkonen has no interest in the technical side and how much interest Jenson has is enoough to win and currently heading for a world title. If Jenson understand so much how come he can't provide the feedback to make those poor cars better? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 07:40 PM	#14
gamecasta Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 538 Senior Member	Too many pieces of the jigsaw are still missing. Will Jenson stay on at Brawn? Will Kimi go to McLaren? Well, not that many pieces. Jenson will stay and Nico will join Brawn and Kimi McL. The question is who gets to pick... If its Kimi then Nico will be at Brawn. If its Lewis then Nico will be at McL. Note: Nico doesnt get to pick at all Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 07:48 PM	#15
MidwestMadman Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	If Jenson understand so much how come he can't provide the feedback to make those poor cars better? Nobody could have made the last 2 Honda's fast (massively flawed concept and no technical leadership from within the team) and the 01 Benetton went from being as slow as a Minardi to finishing on the podium, but that was more Mike Gascoine than the two drivers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 07:51 PM	#16
Bonioners Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	If Jenson understand so much how come he can't provide the feedback to make those poor cars better? When ever these claims about Button come up Ross Brawn's comment earlier this season springs to mind: "The guys in the team told me Jenson was exceptional – I didn't see a lot of it last year, but now I believe them.” Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 07:55 PM	#17
Piediahef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	Okay but he would say that. Anyway...I've not read this Rubens news anywhere else yet so has Sky jumped the gun or got genuine inside info? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 08:14 PM	#18
espenijij Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	If this is indeed true, I wonder whether it's Rubens' own choice to leave Brawn or he has to make way for another driver? I guess Nico Rosberg, because I don't think Brawn can really afford to pay Kimi his salary. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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cmruloah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	Nobody could have made the last 2 Honda's fast (massively flawed concept and no technical leadership from within the team) and the 01 Benetton went from being as slow as a Minardi to finishing on the podium, but that was more Mike Gascoine than the two drivers. Fisi did manage a points-scoring result early in the season (under the old system when only the top-6 scored) and when both drivers managed to finish the race, GF was 9-0 vs Jenson. Just saying. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2009, 09:17 PM	#20
NerbuitW Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 449 Senior Member	An experienced driver like Jenson I am sure understands a significant amount about a racing car - he has driven enough problematic cars. How many times this season have we heard the statement, "Jenson reverted to Rubens setup"? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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