[AnimeThat]

Looks like the teams & manufacturers want to re-evaluate a possible return of equalisation of the engines.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78678

Personally, I would like to see this based on output (Hp) rather than cylinder count, leaving the manufacturers and independent concerns free to design and build engines in varying degrees such as 4-& 6-cylinder turbo, V-8's, 10's or even 12's. It was done in the past, with little problem, and in today's present financial climate, it's a lot better take this route than to expect them to provide the whole car.

But that's just me...

[pumpineemob]

should give Cossie the chance to get somewhere near competitive, which from what we've heard so far wil be a relif to the new boys.

might be enough to keep Renault in the game too

[Azzi_Kahlila]

What is the point of this?

Mercedes and Ferrari have the best engines so the FIA gives everyone a chance to play catchup but what if Ferrari and Mercedes increase their advantage.

Look for further equalizations until we get a spec engine

[golozhopik]

Why should things be equal? This is hard competition, not the get-together of 1265 typical unemployed liberals with a degree in arts.

[ggiifdfalls]

F1 is about to learn what Communism is about.

[MyLeva]

They should take off the 19K RPM rev limit

[kSmica]

There are obviously bad sides to this engine freeze but on the bright side, the grid would never ever be as competitive as it is now if there was no engine freeze.

[ggiifdfalls]

There are obviously bad sides to this engine freeze but on the bright side, the grid would never ever be as competitive as it is now if there was no engine freeze.

It's an artificial state that can't last naturally.

[robstamps]

Groan! *bangs head repeatedly on wall*

Boo hoo. My engine isn't as good as everyone else's! So instead of praising the Merc/Ferrari guys for a job well done we'll just unfreeze and let them catch up.

Personally I'm all for the unfreeze. But forever thank you very much!

[kSmica]

Groan! *bangs head repeatedly on wall*

Boo hoo. My engine isn't as good as everyone else's! So instead of praising the Merc/Ferrari guys for a job well done we'll just unfreeze and let them catch up.

Personally I'm all for the unfreeze. But forever thank you very much!

What if Renault & Toyota pull out and we get rid of the freeze? There are not going to be nearly enough competitive engines for the teams. Cosworth will be left behind in an instant. I don't know, I kind of like this current situation compared to those -100 bhp Minardis back in the old days. From a technological perspective it's obviously a different matter. Do those average Joes care about that? Don't think so. They want close racing.

[muytreda]

There are obviously bad sides to this engine freeze but on the bright side, the grid would never ever be as competitive as it is now if there was no engine freeze.

At most tracks the current closeness of the grid has little to do with the power of the engines. Just look at Red Bull, no streight line speed at Monza, and so nowhere, but will probably be the cars to beat at Suzuka.

[mpegdvdclip]

The engine freeze probably made it easier for Honda to abandon F1. There is no point in racing if your stuck with a dud engine for 'years'. Anything to make the sport more competitive is needed.

[Kolokireo]

How about an unfreeze but with a budget cap for engine development?

[Rexaviennatutr]

[QUOTE=Lennat;691709]How about an unfreeze but with a budget cap for engine development?[/QUOTE

Sounds great, but impossible to control. Engines are developed behind closed doors, and just for the sake of argument there is a consultant who develops an engine somewhere located in Zuhai, and the information is then passed back to a certain manufacturer who then spends very little to alter his engine using the information provided by this consultant in Zuhai.

Now the Consultant in Zuhai is not paid anything for developing the engine, nada, zero.

BUT this Zuhai Consultant, whose patron is a local mayor has a football team which is suddenly blessed with a couple of Brazilian players who help them win many games and ....................................


I think you get the picture.

[Avgustslim]

F1 is currently struggling to accommodate competitiveness in a constructor's series.

Formula 1, being a constructor'sseries, is not about being competitive. It's about being innovative and constructing the best car to dominate the rest of the field.

Only a spec series will provide true competitiveness which is not, IMO, the direction that F1 should take.

Catch 22.

[kSmica]

At most tracks the current closeness of the grid has little to do with the power of the engines. Just look at Red Bull, no streight line speed at Monza, and so nowhere, but will probably be the cars to beat at Suzuka.

It is part of it I'm sure. If there is little or now difference in horsepower it takes away one performance area where you can make a difference, one area where money and resources don't make a difference. That will definitely equal the teams. Now teams at the back of the grid have a winning engine, if we get rid of the freeze, they are going to have underpowered over-thirsty engines pretty soon.

[ElisasAUG]

I think engine freezes are retarded and is the one item that ought to be freely developed along with the tyres - and completely reduce the aero part that mechanical grip becomes the order of the day.

I do HATE aerodynamics they have messed up f1 and made the driver less important.

Oh well what am I saying we may attract RACERS to f1 and they will ATTACK each other on the track and they COLLIDE with each other accidentally sometimes and then the FIA will interfere and the racing will be restricted........

[[sigh]]

[Liaptoono]

Why should things be equal? This is hard competition, not the get-together of 1265 typical unemployed liberals with a degree in arts.

Competition becomes more challenging when everyone else is as good as you.

[kSmica]

Why should things be equal? This is hard competition, not the get-together of 1265 typical unemployed liberals with a degree in arts.

Compare 1988 and 2009. When things are more equal, you get better racing. Technology is nice and exciting but boy it's boring to see (in the case of 1988) the same car win 15 out of 16 races.

[ggiifdfalls]

I think engine freezes are retarded and is the one item that ought to be freely developed along with the tyres

And all this withing 40 millions?!

and completely reduce the aero part that mechanical grip becomes the order of the day.

Why not simply buy some karts?

I do HATE aerodynamics they have messed up f1 and made the driver less important.

They did so since the 70's.
More than half of the F1 championship's life has been contested with aerodynamics as a big part of the sport.