[HelenTay]

http://austriantimes.at/index.php?id=12706

Bungling Formula One bosses were in the pits after playing "God Save The Queen" to celebrate Red Bull's Grand Prix win in Shanghai last Sunday.

Dietrich Mateschitz, boss of Austrian company Red Bull, was reportedly furious when race organisers failed to play his own homeland's anthem after the team’s double victory by German talent Sebastian Vettel and Australian veteran Mark Webber.

Instead, they blasted out the Commonwealth realm’s anthem to honour the team's win after a mix-up over who actually owns the team.

Tycoon Mateschitz owns the company that produces the globally-successful energy drink and runs the team under Austrian racing licences. The F1 team is based in Milton Keynes near London, and its boss is Brit Christian Horner.

Apart from the firm’s engagement in the Formula One circus, Red Bull sponsors several other motor-sport teams as well as football clubs Red Bull Salzburg and Red Bull New York. But hundreds of individual athletes, mainly from the winter-, fun- and extreme-sports sectors, are financially backed by the company as well.

[RilmAlime67]

I believe when Allen Jones won a GP once, they could not figure out what anthem to play, so they played "Happy Birthday". But I am surprised that the Chinese didn't play Waltzing Matilda which is a Karaoke favorite in China.

[Blolover11]

It did strike me as odd but silly me I assumed the FIA knew what they were doing.

[Sironimoll]

I don't know if my memory serves me correctly but I remember that once after Mika Häkkinen had won a race there wasn't finnish anthem available so they played estonian's (I have no idea why they had that one though). It's basically the same melody but there is a small difference. Perhaps someone can tell if I dremt the whole thing or did it happen.

[attlawqa]

I think nearly all the boys at RBR are British so I'm sure they didn't mind the mix-up. Of course, the Austrian anthem should be played after all the other Red Bull wins this year.

BTW Valve, when Allen Jones won races, God Save the Queen was still Australia's national anthem, right? I know the current one was selected in a referendum, altough I have no idea why you guys didn't chose Waltzing Matilda.

[Taunteefrurge]

BTW Valve, when Allen Jones won races, God Save the Queen was still Australia's national anthem, right? I know the current one was selected in a referendum, altough I have no idea why you guys didn't chose Waltzing Matilda.

I believe that many might say that "Waltzing Matilda" is more of a 'pub' song rather than a national anthem, and that many aussies cringe when others ask why they don't play that.

[seooptiman]

Nuvolari's greatest victory would come at the Nurburgring in 1935. Unable to find a drive with the emerging German teams Nuvolari rejoined Ferrari. He was 43. His Alfa was outdated and up against nine of the best racing cars of the era: Mercedes and Auto Unions.
Delayed by a pit stop, Nuvolari charged back in one of the greatest feats in the history of motor racing. He caught and passed the opposition until only the Manfred Von Brauchitsch was ahead. So hard was he driving that the German wore his tyres through and Nuvolari passed him to win. So confident were the Germans of victory that they did not have a recording of the Italian national anthem. Legend has it that Nuvolari did... just in case. http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft00365.html

[KeestRast]

Their's a chance they are still registered with the FIA as a British team since their Jaguar days. Bennetton were a british team, based in Britian but they were later registered as an Italian team.

[dicemets]

Does this mean that by being on the podium and due to the wrong song being played, that they have brought the sport into disrepute and both drivers will be disqualified?
or because Webber is Australian, that only Vettel will be "yanked" (pun intended)

As to waltzing, while the words of the Star Spangled Banner are different, the music is also set to an old Brit drinking song

[attlawqa]

Their's a chance they are still registered with the FIA as a British team since their Jaguar days. Bennetton were a british team, based in Britian but they were later registered as an Italian team.

No, check out the diffuser appeal documentations on the FIA website. Formally, the appeals were lodged by the national sporting authorities on behalf of their licence holding competitors and Red Bull's appeal was lodged by the Austrian federation.

[Teprophopay]

I was confused by the playing of the british national anthem, because although austrian owned, and austrian licensed, its mainly a british team, although classed as austrian. so the british anthem playing was funny really, but you know us brits get used to it nowadays thats 3 times in a row it has had to be played................

[GrileVege]

I think I should point out, in the name of Australians everywhere (of whom I'm not one, but never mind) that it's spelt Alan Jones.

And yes, I believe he has told the anecdote of how, in his words, a drunk played Happy Birthday on a trumpet when he won his first GP for Penske in Austria in 1977, as a result of not having the Australian national anthem to hand. I wonder if there is any independent verification of this? I'd love to see it if there is.

Oh, and by the way, I would also like to see any evidence of Red Bull's 'fury' in this instance...

[RilmAlime67]

http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft00365.html So confident were the Germans of victory that they did not have a recording of the Italian national anthem. Legend has it that Nuvolari did... just in case.

Absolutely correct. I have it on good authority that Nuvolari actually carried the CD in his breast pocket during the race, and it has since been Gold Plated and rests in the Louvre in Paris.

[gechaheritt]

Did they play the Italian anthem for STR when Vettel won his first race? Of course they did, but how is Redbull any more Austrian/Less British than STR is Italian/Austrian? Did they play the Italian anthem because of the Ferrari engines? Toro Rosso is owned by two austrians, Red Bull by 1, and neither team is based in Austria. I think they should play the anthem from where the team is based, not based on where their checks are written.

I doubt we'll have many people waiting on baited breath to hear the Indian anthem when the german engined, Silverstone based Force India wins it's first race. Of course I doubt it will still be indian owned by thetime that team wins another race :yawn:

[VtLe67WR]

I believe that many might say that "Waltzing Matilda" is more of a 'pub' song rather than a national anthem, and that many aussies cringe when others ask why they don't play that.

You do get the irony of a US citizen trying to explain this by saying it is a pub song?, after all, the tune(melody) of the Star Spangled Banner was in reality the tune of "To Anacreon in Heaven" which was a popular drinking song, John STafford Smith was hired to write the music specifically for the Lyrics of "To Anacreon in Heaven"

[dicemets]

"The Yellow-Haired God and his nine lusty Maids,
From Helion's banks will incontinent flee,
Idalia will boast but of tenantless Shades,
And the bi-forked hill a mere desert will be.
My Thunder no fear on't,
Shall soon do it's errand,
And damme I'll swing the Ringleaders I warrant,
I'll trim the young dogs, for thus daring to twine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."
http://glyfix.com/soa/lyrics/anacreon_theme.html

[dicemets]

Absolutely correct. I have it on good authority that Nuvolari actually carried the CD in his breast pocket during the race, and it has since been Gold Plated and rests in the Louvre in Paris.

there you go again with another stupid pointless comment that makes RFLMAO such that I am glad I am on Pino's ignore button list function or whatever

[Diortarkivoff]

Absolutely correct. I have it on good authority that Nuvolari actually carried the CD in his breast pocket during the race, and it has since been Gold Plated and rests in the Louvre in Paris.

Nuvolari was a prophet then if he carried around a CD in 1935!!!

[RilmAlime67]

Nuvolari was a prophet then if he carried around a CD in 1935!!!

Actually, one of the best kept secrets of the Vatican is that Nuvolari's uncle's cousin invented the CD, but because of religious issues, the Vatican ruled that this should be kept a secret until they could get the patents registered. However, the CD that was made my Nuvolari's uncle's cousin was, you guessed it, the Italian National Anthem, and Nuvolari was given a copy for his safe keeping.

[HelenTay]

there you go again with another stupid pointless comment that makes RFLMAO such that I am glad I am on Pino's ignore button list function or whatever

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