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Old 01-08-2009, 07:31 PM   #1
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Default Max preparing for a collapse of Formula One
The FIA itself would not be financially disadvantaged by a collapse of Formula One, but it would suffer in other ways. And, in any event, we believe we have a duty to do whatever is necessary to preserve the Championship for the competitors, the commercial rights holder and motor sport generally. We are therefore prepared to act radically. We hope that, notwithstanding the changes which must now be made, all teams which are still in business in 2010 will enter. But as already stated, we will be ready to recognise an independent series should some teams prefer to go their own way. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72644

Why raise this now
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:55 PM   #2
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"Take it or leave it; Am I bothered?!"
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:03 PM   #3
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Well, out of all this I just want a great motorsport series that interests and excites me.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:09 PM   #4
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Well, after looking at his latest letter, he seems to be trying to bring it around.

Standard engine and compulsory gearbox / chassis sections / etc may save costs but then he makes things worse than they already are with his about turn on KERS and allowing moveable aerodynamics
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:27 PM   #5
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I think Max should say something similar about rallying, given that there has already in effect been a split with the establishment of the IRC. Yet he remains utterly silent on the subject, as far as I have seen/heard.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:28 PM   #6
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I think Max should say something similar about rallying, given that there has already in effect been a split with the establishment of the IRC. Yet he remains utterly silent on the subject, as far as I have seen/heard.
IIndeed. But WRC is as good as dead anyway. I blame a lot of that on max. He needs to be punished.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:30 PM   #7
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He needs to be punished.
Ha!
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:31 PM   #8
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Why?
I ask the question because:

1) I don't know the answer
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2) It seems odd to raise the possibility of "an independent series" (independent of who/what?) at a time when the teams are united under FOTA, are working constructively with the FIA (apparently) to reduce costs and to come up with a viable formula for the future of the sport.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:34 PM   #9
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IIndeed. But WRC is as good as dead anyway.
Yes, but it then begs the very fundamental question of whether the FIA wants to run a World Rally Championship. Might we be seeing the beginnings of this question in relation to F1, even? It does seem a rather strange statement to make.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:34 PM   #10
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It seems odd to raise the possibility of "an independent series" (independent of who/what?)...
Independent of the FIA is how I read it.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:43 PM   #11
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It would be nice to hear some acknowledgement that the FIA is acting honourably and is making positive steps to safeguard the sport.....

....instead we get nit-picking from the usual crew.
You call it nit-picking. I call it raising reasonable debating points about what is after all quite a major statement by the FIA President.

Yesterday, in another thread, you criticised someone else on the grounds that you felt they were presenting their opinions as incontrovertible fact. In this instance, I don't believe that your view that 'the FIA is acting honourably and is making positive steps to safeguard the sport' is incontrovertible fact. Personally, I agree that it is trying to make some positive steps, but this doesn't mean to say that I'm right.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:47 PM   #12
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I said it would be nice if it were acknowledged. That's not quite the same as announcing it as a god-given fact.
If people don't want to acknowledge it because they don't agree with it, so be it. That's their opinion.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:48 PM   #13
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Yes, but it then begs the very fundamental question of whether the FIA wants to run a World Rally Championship. Might we be seeing the beginnings of this question in relation to F1, even? It does seem a rather strange statement to make.
You raise valid points. What goes in the head of Max Mosley is really a mystery to me and to be honest, I prefer it that way.
It would be nice to hear some acknowledgement that the FIA is acting honourably and is making positive steps to safeguard the sport.....

....instead we get nit-picking from the usual crew.
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Yeah, the last 6 years FIA has done nothing besides take good decisions to help safeguard Formula 1 and Rallying.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:48 PM   #14
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I took it as an indication that Max is willing to work with the teams now that they are being united and apparently sensible and was therefore was recognising their rights to go their own way.
That's an interesting take on it, but why would the teams want to go their own way? Why does Max feel the need to introduce that prospect, particularly at this moment in time?
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:49 PM   #15
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You raise valid points. What goes in the head of Max Mosley is really a mystery to me and to be honest, I prefer it that way.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:50 PM   #16
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That's an interesting take on it, but why would the teams want to go their own way? Why does Max feel the need to introduce that prospect, particularly at this moment in time?
If it exists? Thing is, I see very little evidence of this at present.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:56 PM   #17
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I think Max should say something similar about rallying, given that there has already in effect been a split with the establishment of the IRC. Yet he remains utterly silent on the subject, as far as I have seen/heard.
Agreed. But I bet he won't.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:29 PM   #18
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I think Max should say something similar about rallying, given that there has already in effect been a split with the establishment of the IRC. Yet he remains utterly silent on the subject, as far as I have seen/heard.
I don't doubt we'll hear the same from Max.


In a couple of years.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:03 PM   #19
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"We would be ready to recognize another series" seems to be related to giving up the numbers about Ferrari earning $80million more than anyone else for winning .
The money was put in place to scuttle the competing series , taking Ferrari out of the dividing group .

I think it is just a reminder for Luca that they won't offer the extra slice to keep Ferrari on board , as they bit the hand that fed them , figuratively speaking .

And , in that sense , Tamburello's right , it is indeed Max saying that all will be above board in the negotiations .
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:56 AM   #20
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We really don't know about backroom discussions... but it looks like a realistic threat to the FIA's absolute power... may be being formated.

Even acknowledging the possibility of another series replacing the current Formula One setup speaks volumes.

My guess is... Max is trying to remain in the game... even to the point of leaving Bernie out.

Something has caused this... just what... is yet to be determined.
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