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Old 12-26-2008, 11:59 PM   #1
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Default Luca stickin' it to the FIA...


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72576

Wow! Almost exactly what we have been saying here on the forums.

KERS does not belong in F1 (right Taz?) & tracks like Singapore are a farce.

Almost makes me want to be a Ferrari fan.
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:50 AM   #2
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Sounds more like Mr di Montezemolo is sweating a bit, that Ferrari won't have their system ready in time for the new season.
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:12 AM   #3
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He makes some fair points.

If Ferrari with the amount of money they have at their disposal are struggling, then how will the other front-runners without the additional resources made available to Maranello fare?
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Old 12-27-2008, 05:22 AM   #4
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Well, reading all the "Ferrari struggling with KERS" etc stories that appear in the sidebar, I can't say I'm surprised that Luca doesn't like it at the moment.

BMW, on the other hand, seems quite happy...
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:03 PM   #5
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His thoughts on KERS aside, I agree with di Montezemolo 100% on the types of courses that need to be added... and excluded. The core value of Formula One needs to be the quality of the racing, IMO.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:16 AM   #6
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I for one think that KERS is a system that needs more time in order to be introduced into F1.

His thoughts on KERS aside, I agree with di Montezemolo 100% on the types of courses that need to be added... and excluded. The core value of Formula One needs to be the quality of the racing, IMO.
Bingo!

I'm glad someone read the article.
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:40 AM   #7
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I like Monaco. It's a track that was originally raced at because of the driver challenge it offers.

I agree with Luca about Singapore. I don't agree with him about KERS, as it's the same for everyone. I suspect that he wouldn't be mouthing off about it if Ferrari had their KERS working.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:33 PM   #8
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He doesn't want it this year, but he thinks KERS is ok for 2012?

And then he says things shouldn't happen over night, and that they should happen year after year.

Well, yes, exactly Mr. di Montezemolo. F1's change to more energy efficency should be gradual. That's why KERS needs to happen now, and other things should follow year after year.

Does it cost a lot to develop KERS? Yes, you bet. But it's cost well spent on the direction the sport should take, not on tyre warmers and fuel hose.

KERS's time has come, and if anything, it is overdue for F1 to take a step in the direction of more fuel efficiency. di Montezemolo just sounds like he's not happy with how Ferrari's KERS is shaping.

On Singapore, I agree with him.
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Old 12-28-2008, 04:43 PM   #9
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Allow me to translate Luca's words.

"We don't think KERS should be introduced until we've got it working properly, in case other teams gain an advantage on us."
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:49 PM   #10
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I wonder of his constant criticism towards Singapore has anything to do with the fact that Ferrari scored no points in that race. I think Singapore was challenging for the drivers and spectacular for the spectators, and even offered some overtaking. Tracks should be judged individually, without generalizing. Yes, some street courses suck, as do some road courses.

Valencia, on the other hand, was sterile, dusty and the environment was uninspiring to say the least. (That said, I didn't fall asleep any sooner than I did during the Barcelona race.) However, Mr di Montezemolo never criticizes Valencia. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Felipe Massa won that race. Hypocrisy 101.

As for the title of the thread, how is he stickin' it to the FIA? He actually calls for rule changes to encourage overtaking. And that's exactly what the FIA has done by adapting the aerodynamic rules drawn up by Rory Byrne, Pat Symonds and Paddy Lowe. Voila!

Another thing that could help overtaking is the KERS which would provide 80 HP for the duration of six seconds each lap. So following his own logic, Mr di Montezemolo should be praising it. Instead, he is bashing it. Oh, Ferrari is struggling with KERS and McLaren and BMW are not? What a coincidence. That guy is full of hypocrisy.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:33 PM   #11
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I wonder of his constant criticism towards Singapore has anything to do with the fact that Ferrari scored no points in that race. I think Singapore was challenging for the drivers and spectacular for the spectators, and even offered some overtaking. Tracks should be judged individually, without generalizing. Yes, some street courses suck, as do some road courses.

Valencia, on the other hand, was sterile, dusty and the environment was uninspiring to say the least. (That said, I didn't fall asleep any sooner than I did during the Barcelona race.) However, Mr di Montezemolo never criticizes Valencia. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Felipe Massa won that race. Hypocrisy 101.

As for the title of the thread, how is he stickin' it to the FIA? He actually calls for rule changes to encourage overtaking. And that's exactly what the FIA has done by adapting the aerodynamic rules drawn up by Rory Byrne, Pat Symonds and Paddy Lowe. Voila!

Another thing that could help overtaking is the KERS which would provide 80 HP for the duration of six seconds each lap. So following his own logic, Mr di Montezemolo should be praising it. Instead, he is bashing it. Oh, Ferrari is struggling with KERS and McLaren and BMW are not? What a coincidence. That guy is full of hypocrisy.
Montezemolo did criticize Valencia too, so get your facts right and keep the fiction for you.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:34 PM   #12
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BTW I don't agree with him about KERS, if they can't get it right than they better build a damn good car without it.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:44 PM   #13
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I think Luca may come to regret his recent exchanges with Bernie and the FIA, we'll see if Ferrari will get slightly less preferencial treatment in the future, as Bernie said, Ferrari have been treated in a more leanient manner then the other teams, both from a sporting and fiscal perspective, with Ferrari's current stance to side with FOTA against the FIA it could eliminate much of this elevated status, resulting in teams being treated more equally which is good news for the sport, as the playing field will be much more level but bad news for Ferrari, no more mid-season rule clarifications in thier favour, things like that!!
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:37 AM   #14
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I think Luca may come to regret his recent exchanges with Bernie and the FIA...
Interesting times. On the one hand we have the old guard - Max 'n' Bernie - who have run F1 between them for some time; and on the other we have FOTA currently headed by Luca. It's all very different to the FISA/FOCA days

Who will ultimately have the upper hand
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:18 AM   #15
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Montezemolo did criticize Valencia too, so get your facts right and keep the fiction for you.
Yes he did but no to the same levels as Singapore where they were the clowns and could have caused an injury to many pit members.
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:16 PM   #16
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I think Luca may come to regret his recent exchanges with Bernie and the FIA, we'll see if Ferrari will get slightly less preferencial treatment in the future, as Bernie said, Ferrari have been treated in a more leanient manner then the other teams, both from a sporting and fiscal perspective, with Ferrari's current stance to side with FOTA against the FIA it could eliminate much of this elevated status, resulting in teams being treated more equally which is good news for the sport, as the playing field will be much more level but bad news for Ferrari, no more mid-season rule clarifications in thier favour, things like that!!
Load of bollocks!

Montezemolo is the head of the FOTA and is speaking in the name of all the F1 teams when he criticizes Bernie.
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:54 PM   #17
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Load of bollocks!

Montezemolo is the head of the FOTA and is speaking in the name of all the F1 teams when he criticizes Bernie.
He may be the head of FOTA but is also the head of Ferrari which is a member of FOTA so he is speaking for both parties in effect.
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:04 PM   #18
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Well, that was a rather strong personal opinion than anything else when saying Singaport is a farce, someone may not like it, and there can be some negative feedback like over bumpiness at some parts, but a farce is a way overly exaggerated comment unless you're joking.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:38 AM   #19
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The reason I placed that title is because Luca is breaking ranks with the FIA. Feels as if someone finally saw the light and got a fresh breath of air. A little infighting never did anyone any harm (see: CART v Indy) .

Well, that was a rather strong personal opinion than anything else when saying Singaport is a farce, someone may not like it, and there can be some negative feedback like over bumpiness at some parts, but a farce is a way overly exaggerated comment unless you're joking.
I really-really-really didn't like Singapore as a race circuit.
Is it pretty? Yes. Is it necessary? No.


Some tracks on the F1 calendar are just plain bland and need to be reconsidered. Valencia nearly put me to sleep. I thought that I had been sucking down on NyQuil since my eyelids were so heavy.
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:55 AM   #20
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The interesting thing here, as others have intimated, is why he has chosen this moment to speak out. On whose behalf he is speaking I don't know — none of us truly do without him saying whether he's doing so on behalf of FOTA.
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