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Old 11-03-2008, 02:32 PM   #21
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Congratulations to Ferrarri.

But I think there is too much drama here. They clearly had the fastest car over the season, with two able drivers, and yet, failed to win both championships. Mostly due to repeated strategic mistakes.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:35 PM   #22
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The only team who deserve the WCC this year, congratulations.

Ferrari had two drivers competing for (at least half) of the year, whereas Kovalainen was very quiet and hindered McLaren. He needs to step up if McLaren are going to win it next year!
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:40 PM   #23
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Congratulations to Ferrarri.

But I think there is too much drama here. They clearly had the fastest car over the season, with two able drivers, and yet, failed to win both championships. Mostly due to repeated strategic mistakes.
They won the constructor's title by 19 points.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:17 PM   #24
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Ferrari were by far the best package this year IMO. If they too had one driver doing the winning then they would be drivers champions too.

I think it does say a lot about Kova's lack of pace, mind.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:31 PM   #25
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I would disagree with that. I would say the McLaren was far better. Ferrari were crap in the wet.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:37 PM   #26
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Congrats to the team for winning the WCC but somehow I think winning the WCC this season should have been a lot easier for Ferrari
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:55 PM   #27
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Heart wrenching.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:29 AM   #28
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Heart wrenching.
yes indeeed,

And I do beleive that both Maclaren's and Ferrari's were equally as fast this year with a slight edge to Mclaren on relaibilty and performance in incliment conditions as well as pit crews.

This championship would have been won in Shangai if
1. The FIA did not overturn the Spa race
2. Massa had not spun LH out of contention, and the FIa brought him in for a stupid penalty


and the constructor title would have been closer if anybody but Kovy were driving that 2nd Mclaren. He simple did not do his part for the majority of the year. He lucked inot his one race win and never did enough in the others to keep the Mac's at the top. Kovy needs to do much much more in 2009 or he'll be replaced before the season is over.
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:16 AM   #29
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Congrats to Felipe! Despite a troubled beginning of season and consistent criticism towards him he proved that he is a genuine top driver and a classy race in changing conditions confirmed this.

As I have said before, for me there wasn't much difference, who was going to win the title and hence I really enjoyed the last few laps. It's even a bit sad that one of those great rivals had to lose in the end. What makes the loss a bit sadder, is that for some reason I fear this might have been Massa's best chance to win the title. Either due to Ferrari's fall in the future or he gets a new team-mate, who beats him (Alonso? Vettel?), but I hope this hunch is wrong and we will see Massa in title battles in the future too as he as a driver has proved that he as a driver is certainly capable of mounting such challenge.
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:40 AM   #30
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Congrats to Felipe! Despite a troubled beginning of season and consistent criticism towards him he proved that he is a genuine top driver and a classy race in changing conditions confirmed this.

As I have said before, for me there wasn't much difference, who was going to win the title and hence I really enjoyed the last few laps. It's even a bit sad that one of those great rivals had to lose in the end. What makes the loss a bit sadder, is that for some reason I fear this might have been Massa's best chance to win the title. Either due to Ferrari's fall in the future or he gets a new team-mate, who beats him (Alonso? Vettel?), but I hope this hunch is wrong and we will see Massa in title battles in the future too as he as a driver has proved that he as a driver is certainly capable of mounting such challenge.


I can't add anything to that.
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:54 AM   #31
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yes indeeed,

And I do beleive that both Maclaren's and Ferrari's were equally as fast this year with a slight edge to Mclaren on relaibilty and performance in incliment conditions as well as pit crews.

This championship would have been won in Shangai if
1. The FIA did not overturn the Spa race
2. Massa had not spun LH out of contention, and the FIa brought him in for a stupid penalty


and the constructor title would have been closer if anybody but Kovy were driving that 2nd Mclaren. He simple did not do his part for the majority of the year. He lucked inot his one race win and never did enough in the others to keep the Mac's at the top. Kovy needs to do much much more in 2009 or he'll be replaced before the season is over.
And if Ferrari hadn't suffered engine failure at Hungary with Massa far out in the lead three laps from the finish? Massa +10, Hamilton -1
Or if Ferrari's infamous pit light hadn't sent Filipe out of the pits with the fuel rig attached?? Massa was easily the equal of Hamilton, and IMHO his overall drives were far more impressive. I agree, the edge went to Mclaren on the equipment this year, yet I feel Massa was the better driver.

Kovy had no chance to challenge Hamilton, he always was saddled with the heavier fuel loads, even when he was turning faster lap times in practice than Hamilton. Hamiton got lucky this week. Gawd is this going to be a winter on the boards.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:50 PM   #32
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What makes the loss a bit sadder, is that for some reason I fear this might have been Massa's best chance to win the title...
Sadly I think you might be right. I thought 2007 was Felipe's best chance for the WDC. He was firmly established at Ferrari alongside a "newboy" in the other seat and the chance was there to impose himself on the team but perhaps Kimi's reputation (and salary!) meant Ferrari saw things a little differently. This year Felipe has more than been a match for the disappointing Kimi so 2008 was perhaps an even better opportunity for him and yet he just came up short.

There are a whole new set of challenges for everyone with the new regs in 2009. Kimi will (or should!) be out to right what went wrong this year or he could find himself shown the door. Hamilton has the impetus of being WDC. The likes of Vettel and Kubica are on the rise.

It's a tough ask for Felipe, but it will be fascinating to see how he responds.
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:59 PM   #33
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And if Ferrari hadn't suffered engine failure at Hungary with Massa far out in the lead three laps from the finish? Massa +10, Hamilton -1
Or if Ferrari's infamous pit light hadn't sent Filipe out of the pits with the fuel rig attached?? Massa was easily the equal of Hamilton...
Well said Not to mention that Kimi was as bad as Kovalainen or Ferrari would've won the Constructor Title months ago
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:00 PM   #34
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Well done Ferrari and well done Massa! Hopefully next year they can secure both titles! 2009, here we come
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