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Licacivelip 10-15-2008 06:42 PM

Who deserves to be crowned champion?
 
Forgett for a moment the drivers standings. Who do you guys think has deserved the championship the most this season?
The main contenders would surely be, Massa, Hamilton, Alonso, Kubica, Vettell.

Your thoughts.

Cnbaapuy 10-15-2008 07:45 PM

The one who gets most points at the end of the season.

Emedgella 10-15-2008 10:48 PM

No driver deserves anything. You and your team have to win it - earn it - not deserve it.

cholleyhomeob 10-15-2008 11:55 PM

I don`t know.

MiniBoy 10-16-2008 12:53 AM

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The one who gets most points at the end of the season.
I second the statement - the one who finishes at the top of the table.

posimoka 10-16-2008 01:39 AM

On balance I'd say Kubica. He's really impressed me this year, and has done a superb job with what is not the best car on the grid. Being a contender at this point of the season is very impressive IMHO.

TepSteade 10-16-2008 04:49 PM

Its a tough question.

Its like Kubica has been mighty consistant, hence he still up there. But at same time, Kubica is the definition of what people don't want to win championships.

Majority of people moan and moan how race wins arent encouraged enough. And that consistancy wins championships and thats boring.

So in many respects, you'd have to say Hamilton's attitude to winning at all costs, is the most exciting, and appealing way of winning in terms of majority opinion.

Most deserving for me would be Alonso. Top scorer in the last 6 races, by some margin too. He 3 points off the other McLaren. In a car which has for majority of the season been 5-6th fastest car on the grid. During that time, he was continously getting it in the top 10, and in the points, punching above its weight.

Now the car is 4th best car, maybe 3rd at some venues, and again, he punching above his weight, winning races now!

I honestly think we need this man up front, he is a true talent, and its slightly wasted down in 7th in drivers championship.

So for me, Alonso.

But as pointed out, its a team effort, if I take this into account, I'd have to say both Hamilton and Massa deserve it. Whilst I want Massa to win it, I can't help but feel Hamilton is fighting against Ferrari and race Stewards for his championship. So in many ways, Hamilton may deserve it more.

But you could argue Massa has lost out on several ocassions due to team failures, which equalise what Hamilton has lost out due to unfair penalties, but then as stated, its a team sport, if Ferrari mess up, its all part of being a team.

LasTins 10-16-2008 05:44 PM

Alonso because of his spirit and because he is a true master of the game and never gives up.
From the contenders, I say Massa because he improved a lot this year, than Kubi, because he is extremely consistent. Hamilton drove excellent races, but to me he is very dangerous driver and makes too many mistakes which cost other people's races.

zoneouddy 10-16-2008 09:54 PM

I think I could be a worthy champion.

KraskiNetu 10-16-2008 10:18 PM

The Driver with the most points should win.

But If I was to rank in order of talent.

1. Alonso......By Far!

2. Massa....2 wins taken away through no fault of his own.

3. Vettel....Such a raw talent. Looking forward to his career.

4. Hamilton....Has so much talent but he is the #1 driver with the best car on the best team and should be running away with the Championship.

5. Kubica....Started hot. Mid season was a let down. Picking it up as of late. Needs to stop complaining about his team.

6. Kimi....Been a disapointment this year but has shown flashes of brilliance.

7. Bourdais...Considering he is the #2 Driver on the 2nd redbull team he has impressed me. Great at car setup.

8. Webber...Would love to see him in a good car.

fubyFrery 10-18-2008 06:21 AM

Alonso is the worst sportsman ive ever seen. He's a bad loser and childish. Should a WDC be sounding off about interfering in the title shootout? It's a disgrace. All Hamilton bashers just hate the English and are jealous. Lewis will be WDC 2008 and will carry it with more grace and honour than Alfonso ha ha ha...............Alonso should have drove his McLaren faster last year if he's so good..........loser :-)

BV6lwvXf 10-18-2008 01:18 PM

The Oracle has spoken.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/10828

LasTins 10-18-2008 01:43 PM

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Alonso is the worst sportsman ive ever seen. He's a bad loser and childish. Should a WDC be sounding off about interfering in the title shootout? It's a disgrace. All Hamilton bashers just hate the English and are jealous. Lewis will be WDC 2008 and will carry it with more grace and honour than Alfonso ha ha ha...............Alonso should have drove his McLaren faster last year if he's so good..........loser :-)
Um, it is not Alonso who needlessly unlapped himself risking the race leader's result in Japan, eh? Neither it is ONLY Alonso who is frustrated about the golden boy.
And BTW I love the English culture, the English soccer teams (Glory Man United), their history, my fave books are British...
Still I can't stand Hamilton (although I respect his talent).

SobiquYo 10-18-2008 01:44 PM

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Um, it is not Alonso who needlessly unlapped himself risking the race leader's result in Japan, eh? Neither it is ONLY Alonso who is frustrated about the golden boy.
And BTW I love the English culture, the English soccer teams (Glory Man United), their history, my fave books are British...
Still I can't stand Hamilton (although I respect his talent).
He unlapped himself in a safe manner, so that he could take advantage of any last lap prangs ahead of him, however unlikely.

It's a total non-issue.

LasTins 10-18-2008 01:46 PM

From what I saw it was dangerous, Lewy even flashspotted his tyres. It was childish to the extreme, but I guess that lewis fans will view even an on-trac murder as "racey".

SobiquYo 10-18-2008 02:40 PM

It was a perfectly logical and reasonable thing to do, as I just explained. Your constant Lewis bashing is what is childish.

LasTins 10-18-2008 04:49 PM

Not according to FIA stewards, who obviously also think that something with him often is wrong http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

SobiquYo 10-18-2008 05:31 PM

Give it a break.

posimoka 10-18-2008 06:16 PM

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Um, it is not Alonso who needlessly unlapped himself risking the race leader's result in Japan, eh?
It's already been explained why Hamilton unlapped himself. Had he followed the leader his race was over when Alonso took the chequered flag. By unlapping himself there was a (very remote, admittedly) chance incidents or retirements could have seen him make up places.

There was no risk whatsoever. Alonso knew that and let Hamilton go.

LasTins 10-18-2008 06:34 PM

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Give it a break.
I am sorry, and I think that the arguments made by you and Arrows are pretty weird. He was into the last lap and 12th. He had no chance for points. It was his stupidity.
Pity, because he is really an amazing driver.


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