[Chiquita]

Hamilton!!

[Haftdrarp]

when you lookat the replays, it was clear that maldonado deliberately steered his car into hulkenberg to intentionally shove him off the track, even worse, in doing so he made contact. the onboards are very telling.
A similar argument could be made for kimi's move on Grosjean however, but the difference is that kimi didn't necessarily steer into grosjean and they were side by side and grosjea nhad the opportunity to concede

In Hulkenberg's case, he was on the racing line and ahead when Maldonado came charging in ( fair enough) but then knowing that he wasn't going to make the pass, decided to steer into nicoH.

I went out not long after the race and have only seen it live. What I posted was in my belief that he made an error. If that was the case I would stick by my view.

However if you have watched the replay and seen if again and you say thats the case I accept it. In that case he deserved his peanlty and more besides as he has done nasty thing before. i.e Perez in Monaco and Hamilton last year in Spa, as well as Hamilton at Valencia.

If that is the case he can't have an arguement with a more stern penalty.

I will have to watch it again.

[Haftdrarp]

Hamilton!!

For not letting Kimi win I assume.

[Bill-Watson]

Shumi made an error, and then compounded it with a pit lane penalty. You simply don't expect that kind of thing from him.

As for Maldonado, the pattern continues. I'm not convinced it warranted a penalty, but it was a poor piece of driving again. It was neither a clean nor decisive attempt at a pass nor was he in full control of his car. At least he didn't cost his team points this time but the credit Pastor earned for his win is rapidly running out.

[wrewsTear]

Igornado
Kamui for getting his @ss beat by HK in the Cateram

You do realise Kamui retired two laps before the end don't you? Not hard to be beaten by a Caterham when your car is broken down in the pits. No wonder you don't rate the guy! He was set to finish just behind his teammate otherwise. Not great but hardly a poor outing either.

No real donkeys today except maybe a few strategy errors, McLaren putting Button out behind Senna comes to mind. Not sure if Lotus made an error bringing Romain in for his last pitstop too as he seemed to be stuck behind Alonso for too long.

Maldonaldo deserves a mention, I think it was a genuine error due to overenthusiasm but he has way too many of them. Might be interesting to tally up an alternative championship where Maldonaldo doesn't lose so many points due to avoidable accidents, Williams could have been challenging Sauber then.

[statistica]

Uhoh I take back what I said about Jenson.

Garry was so right about Vettel crying on the radio. This season is so much more interesting. Who'd have thought 11 races in he would have just 1 win, and 2 other podiums? Equal to Grosjean.

Maybe Glock for being so far behind Pic. I think he regrets not driving that now-Lotus car when he was offered it for 2010...

[Gosxjqum]

Donkeys - (pains me to say this but...) Bunson and Webber, they are both front running drivers (especially webber) and they diddnt set the race on fire like I expected. I still want Webber to be WDC.

[statistica]

Yeah I think Webber too now actually...

And super-reliability (20+ finishers again), but I guess that's the price to pay for having closely matched engines and cars...

Random Thought: I'm concerned that in my mind I'm starting to regard the Hungaroring as something of a classic track now, such has been the effect of Hermann Tilke on F1. The place does have some character I think, and is distinctive.

[SmuffNuSMaxqh]

Random Thought: I'm concerned that in my mind I'm starting to regard the Hungaroring as something of a classic track now, such has been the effect of Hermann Tilke on F1. The place does have some character I think, and is distinctive.

it only took me 20 years but now I agree
any non tilke or pre-tilke track is a classic imo

...but i do miss the turkey race, love that track

[Endatrybeeddy]

Michael because he decided to stop driving in 18th.

[TerriLS]

Donkey goes to Red Bull for giving up track position on a circuit that made passing virtually impossible. I'm also not buying Horner's excuse that the diff was playing up causing excessive tyre wear. Even if that was the case Webber would still have been better off staying out and defending his position. Considering the DRS had no effect what-so-ever Webber would hardly have been a sitting duck. Was Vettel's diff playing up too?

[paypaltoegold1]

THE donkey is Maldonado. Someone should throw the book at this kid so that he stops using his car as a weapon.

Honourable mention to MSC for his brain fart, and the Maclaren and Red Bull team for putting their drivers on a three stopper when clearly track position mattered most on a track where overtaking was so difficult.

Webber and Button in particular have to be furious with their team's strategy calls.

[DumnEuronoumn]

You do realise Kamui retired two laps before the end don't you? Not hard to be beaten by a Caterham when your car is broken down in the pits. No wonder you don't rate the guy! He was set to finish just behind his teammate otherwise. Not great but hardly a poor outing either.

No real donkeys today except maybe a few strategy errors, McLaren putting Button out behind Senna comes to mind. Not sure if Lotus made an error bringing Romain in for his last pitstop too as he seemed to be stuck behind Alonso for too long.

Maldonaldo deserves a mention, I think it was a genuine error due to overenthusiasm but he has way too many of them. Might be interesting to tally up an alternative championship where Maldonaldo doesn't lose so many points due to avoidable accidents, Williams could have been challenging Sauber then.

You are correct. Kamui "could" have finished a pathetic 15th instead of 18th in a car vastly better than the Caterham. I don't think Kamui could hold HK's jock in equal cars, because he does not possess his instincts or craft. Disregarding my colorful language, Kamui was beaten by HK, fact.

As for my rating of pilots and challengers.....Scoreboard baby!!

[viagracheapest]

FIA for not dropping this pathetic circuit

[Roferurse]

Maldonado. Yes he probably got the penalty based on recent events so he is even more of a donkey for pulling off a move and hitting someone again.

He is a donkey because he al, he al, he always does it......

[Stappipsy]

Look at MSC, what a donkey!
F1 Hungaroring 2012 start - part 4 - YouTube

[Podosinovik]

Has to be "confused" Gramps... doddered to the wrong start place causing an aborted start, then cut his engine cos "that's what we always did for a restart". Time moves on, things change
GP Ungarn 2012 (Analyse): Kimi ganz cool, Schumi ganz konfus - AUTO MOTOR UND SPORT

[bushomeworkk]

when you lookat the replays, it was clear that maldonado deliberately steered his car into hulkenberg to intentionally shove him off the track, even worse, in doing so he made contact. the onboards are very telling.
A similar argument could be made for kimi's move on Grosjean however, but the difference is that kimi didn't necessarily steer into grosjean and they were side by side and grosjea nhad the opportunity to concede

In Hulkenberg's case, he was on the racing line and ahead when Maldonado came charging in ( fair enough) but then knowing that he wasn't going to make the pass, decided to steer into nicoH.

It looked like countersteering as he lost the grip on the rears , rather than "deliberately steered his car into" , as you put it .

If the stewards thought that it was anything like what you project on him , he would be banned .

[jadabaad]

It looked like countersteering as he lost the grip on the rears , rather than "deliberately steered his car into" , as you put it.

Exactly.

The car was drifting, correct the steering and still 4 wheel drifting...

[Bill-Watson]

If the stewards thought that it was anything like what you project on him , he would be banned .

Well he wasn't banned for steering into Perez at Monaco so I wouldn't be too sure.