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Old 05-26-2008, 04:00 PM   #1
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Default And he's doing another mesmerising, Senna-esque push...
I could actually feel James' saliva spraying out of the television whenever Hamiltons name was mentioned(at least once a minute) with his fawning not at all endearing like Murray Walker's. That and feeling the need to also compare Senna and Hamilton at least half of the time.

Did this get on anyone elses nerves a lot?
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Old 05-26-2008, 04:02 PM   #2
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Did this get on anyone elses nerves a lot?
Nah, because while I was watching ITV's pictures I was listening to 5Live
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:39 PM   #3
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I feel that James had an OK day (a rare thing I know). The Brits are always going to get a big rap from the Brit commentator, like Murray and Nigel, Murray and Damon etc. Nothing wrong with trying to keep the excitement alive...

PS I couldn't give a s*** where Mark Webber is at any point of a 10 Delayed Telecast, but then again, he is the hero of home here...
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:56 PM   #4
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not any different than the focus on Danica Pat at Indy. More focus was on her than anyone else.

Loved her stomp down the pit road, as it was pure nonsense, and the announcers went gaggaga, yayayddaa.

It was like Scott Dixon was no where, and who is that other driver who finished behind him......

The difference is that at least Hamilton does win races and drive consistently at the top, so "creating media interest in an attempt to drive up viewer interst" will always be there on someone, it is just than some are more deserving of it than others.....
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:25 PM   #5
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I really rate Lewis as a driver but it does iritate me,

Ill compare Lewis to Senna when his achievements compare..
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:55 PM   #6
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I'll explain my comments a bit further if I may. I do find James Allen to be, well, full of it for want of a better word. But if his style of commentary was going to fit anywhere, Monaco was always going to be it, where plenty of drama, excitement, heck, even the odd legal pass was happening on track.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:43 AM   #7
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It's not Allen's style that's irritating. It's his unbridled man-love for Hamilton that's gone completely over the top.

As someone posted in another thread he kept asking Mike Gascoyne how he thought Hamilton was doing every time they crossed to the Force India tech boss. WTF? Gascoyne has nothing to do with Hamilton and I'm sure would much rather of commented on his own drivers. Gascoyne at least had the decency to answer the idiot.

The last 15 or 20 laps were the worst though. I lost count of the times he managed to work Senna and Hamilton into the same sentence. Just go down and have the guy's babies Allen and spare us the worship. We fans can do it but commentators can't. The're supposed to leave the bias at home and at least try to be impartial.

Stop comparing a guy who has won 6 races and ZERO titles to a three-time champion who won 41 races and achieved a legendary status. Hamilton is not Senna. Right now he's not even Damon Hill or Jacques Villeneuve. When his career is over or he's got 3 titles under his belt you can make the comparison. Until then, don't. Please!

This is why some people don't like Hamilton. His fans in the media are going completely over-the-top. In Australia we have little choice but to watch and read the British media because we don't have our own specialist F1 media and F1 barely rates a mention in the mainstream press. Having Hamilton-worship rammed down your throat is bloody annoying.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:50 AM   #8
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I could actually feel James' saliva spraying out of the television whenever Hamiltons name was mentioned(at least once a minute) with his fawning not at all endearing like Murray Walker's. That and feeling the need to also compare Senna and Hamilton at least half of the time.

Did this get on anyone elses nerves a lot?
Post-Senna, it's been a cliche to call the 'next big thing' as Senna-esque

JYS overhyped Jan Magnusson as the next Senna

Mo Nunn fuelled JPM as the next Senna

Same thing happening in NASCAR post-Dale Earnhardt Snr - Kyle Busch is apparantly hailed as the new Intimidator.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:06 AM   #9
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The problem is that now you´re the next Senna, and the next day you´re a total failure.

I remember when people tried to kill and bury Michael Schumacher at the beginning of 2003... and he won the WDC
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:07 AM   #10
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Stop comparing a guy who has won 6 races and ZERO titles to a three-time champion who won 41 races and achieved a legendary status.
Gilles Villenueve won ZERO titles and achieved legendary status.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:34 AM   #11
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Gilles Villenueve won ZERO titles and achieved legendary status.
And that legend arose after his death. Whilst he was racing he was spectacular to watch but hardly legendary.

Some people have been comparing Hamilton to the all-time greats since half way through his first season. Some people were even making that call before he'd won a single bloody race! There's a difference between saying somebody could be an all-time great and saying somebody is and all-time great. Senna is an all-time great. Hamilton is nothing more than unfulfilled potential.

For his fans this kind of worship from the media won't be annoying. For those, like me, who have no reason to like the guy, it's become very irritating
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:20 AM   #12
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Some people have been comparing Hamilton to the all-time greats since half way through his first season. Some people were even making that call before he'd won a single bloody race! There's a difference between saying somebody could be an all-time great and saying somebody is and all-time great. Senna is an all-time great. Hamilton is nothing more than unfulfilled potential.
Alonso is regarded as a great because he won 2 WDC and so came into last season as the man to beat.

Lewis just about matched Alonso so is the hype not warranted?
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:24 AM   #13
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Alonso is regarded as a great because he won 2 WDC and so came into last season as the man to beat.

Lewis just about matched Alonso so is the hype not warranted?
uh..oh.. here we go again..
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:12 AM   #14
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The fact that I much prefer to watch the race on Speed TV with their big southern Nascar accents speaks volumes for ITV.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:09 AM   #15
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Alonso is regarded as a great because he won 2 WDC and so came into last season as the man to beat.

Lewis just about matched Alonso so is the hype not warranted?
He's a talented driver with a load of potential. That potential is still largely unfulfilled.

Surely you're not suggesting that Hamilton is in the same league as Senna? Hamilton has achieved exactly Jack **** compared to Senna. He's never driven a crap car nor has he ever had to come from the back of the grid. There are still many questions about the guy that have to be answered.

That's why people are sick of the sycophantic commentary of James Allen. He's been fawning all over Hamilton since early 2007. Allen carries on like there's never been a better driver. Schumacher won more than any other two or three world champions put together yet many people feel that Senna was better. Allen and others seem to want to put Hamilton alongside Senna after 1 season.

In my view the comparison is absurd and has no place in the commentating of a race.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:25 AM   #16
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you need to take into account spygate aswell this has all been said before but is he only as good as the car he is driving.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:43 AM   #17
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I was getting irritated over Allen's "Senna-esque" quips!
My eyes were about to fall out from rolling so much.

Hamilton is a great driver, and my favorite driver, but this is getting out of hand. Every single time I watch ITV there's always someone licking Hamilton's arse. Get over it! Let the men race without the biased bull**** and show the rest of the field for Christ sakes.

What also made me angry was how ITV vilifies Alonso.
Last year happened last year. Enough of the bitterness you tossers.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:01 PM   #18
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BBC, please do not sign Allen for next year!!!! After the last two races I am already sick of Senna & Hamilton being used in the same sentance - no more please!
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Old 05-27-2008, 03:45 PM   #19
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I was getting irritated over Allen's "Senna-esque" quips!
My eyes were about to fall out from rolling so much.

Hamilton is a great driver, and my favorite driver, but this is getting out of hand. Every single time I watch ITV there's always someone licking Hamilton's arse. Get over it! Let the men race without the biased bull**** and show the rest of the field for Christ sakes.

What also made me angry was how ITV vilifies Alonso.
Last year happened last year. Enough of the bitterness you tossers.
I feel the same - I actually like Hamilton, but the OTT sycophancy is a joke. They were still going on about being 'robbed' last year at Monaco. The British press/media kicked off the Hamilton/Alonso 'war' last year after Monaco, with silly ill-informed comments. Even on Saturday in an interview with Alonso - last year was brought up. Please, let it go. Unfortunately Hamilton is F1/Motorsport in Britain.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:57 PM   #20
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For the time being, the only thing about Lewis that is "Senna-esque" may be his crash helmet.
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