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Old 03-26-2008, 06:02 AM   #1
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Default Alonso Not Happy At Renault[merged]
According To Newsnowf1...alonso Is Not Happy With The Way Things Are Going At Renault. He Is Waiting For The Ride To Open Up At Ferrari If Massa Doesn't Improve. He Leaves Mclaren Because He's Not Happy And Now He Wants To Leave Renault Because He's Not Happy. Suck It Up Fernando..there's Alot Of Drivers Who Wish They Could Be In Your Postion.
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:09 AM   #2
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link please!

According to TVE international 2 days ago, he's happy at Renault...
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:29 AM   #3
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Here is a link to the story on BBC News — http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7312280.stm

Bit early for him to be talking about this sort of thing, isn't it?
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:35 AM   #4
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He just made it known that he's disposed to take up a place in a better team.
I bet there are at least another 10 drivers on the grid that have the same view about their team.
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:15 AM   #5
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He just made it known that he's disposed to take up a place in a better team.
I bet there are at least another 10 drivers on the grid that have the same view about their team.
Wrong.

You lose.

Please send me my money or I will send DC over to kick the blank out of you, if he is not to busy closing the door massa's foot or talkin some trash at an interview.

Right Answer:

Atleast 13 (not counting Freddie)
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:29 AM   #6
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He Leaves Mclaren Because He's Not Happy And Now He Wants To Leave Renault Because He's Not Happy. Suck It Up Fernando..there's Alot Of Drivers Who Wish They Could Be In Your Postion.
First of all, he never said he is unhappy at Renault. That is your prejudice at work.
He simply stated two realities:

1) He purposely put a clause in his contract with Renault that if the car couldn't reach a certain competitive level that he has the option to leave!

2) Consequently he doesn't have to suck up jack squat. He is a 26year double world champion, who took both his championships at the expense of M. Schumacher. He's calling the shots. And yes, there are a lot of drivers that would love to be in his position. Unfortunately there are no current ones that can claim to have his credentials, contract flexibility, and talent.
That's reality!!
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:39 AM   #7
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First of all, he never said he is unhappy at Renault. That is your prejudice at work.
He simply stated two realities:



2) Consequently he doesn't have to suck up jack squat. He is a 26year double world champion, who took both his championships at the expense of M. Schumacher. He's calling the shots. And yes, there are a lot of drivers that would love to be in his position. Unfortunately there are no current ones that can claim to have his credentials, contract flexibility, and talent.
That's reality!!
Not if u drink enuff kool aid......
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:50 AM   #8
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Not if u drink enuff kool aid......
OK Rev.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:07 AM   #9
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2) Consequently he doesn't have to suck up jack squat. He is a 26year double world champion, who took both his championships at the expense of M. Schumacher.
If Alonso beat MS in 2005 then we can definitely say that Schumy kicked his butt big time in 2001, 2003 and 2004. Moreover we can also say that Alonso will get beaten very badly in 2008 by a lot of mediocre drivers....

Alonso and the whining has already started. And it is just 2 races into the season. What a difference from MS back in 2005 who never once said anything bad about his team in public.. Alonso is a moaner and whiner and he deserves that Renault this year..
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:24 AM   #10
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When has Alonso ever been happy? He was bitching about Renault in 2006 when he was in the process of winning a world title.

It's not going to do Renault any good to have their "star" driver talking about "get-out" clauses in his contract. Good way to keep up team morale Fernando!
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:31 AM   #11
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When has Alonso ever been happy? He was bitching about Renault in 2006 when he was in the process of winning a world title.

It's not going to do Renault any good to have their "star" driver talking about "get-out" clauses in his contract. Good way to keep up team morale Fernando!
Exactly so. Why would Ferrari want someone like that. Atleast Kimi never whines about the team...He may not be a leader like MS but he is much more preferred to Tifosi's than Alonso the moaner.. If Alonso is such a great leader then why cant he do the same thing which MS did back in the 90's to get Ferrari back to winning ways. MS could have won many more WDC if he always drove the best car. But Alonso is always looking to bail out...

Whenever Alonso gets his butt kicked he starts to complain and whine...Plus he is amongst the few drivers in F1 who got beaten by a rookie....

His career is going the JV way and he has only himself to blame for it...
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:42 AM   #12
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I didn't hear that he isn't happy at Renault, I think getting back his status that he can't get during at McLaren would be something to make him happy.

Two things I heard recently:
1. He prefer giving no comment about impressive performance of his former team and teammate, while eloquently commenting about Renault performance with some optimism although there are to much problem need to be sorted out.

2. He prefer Ferrari again for this year's winner.
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:10 AM   #13
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It is clear more is being conjured out of the BBC quoted article than was actually alledged to have been said by Fernando.

Everyone can draw their own conclusions as to what the guy would like to do: join Ferrari, of course.

Whether there is room for him at Ferrari remains to be seen.

Of course, Massa had no results after making some (insert your own description here) errors in the first two races this year, and unless he starts winning, he will soon be relegated to Kimi's on track protector onmaking sure Kimi will score the maximum points against Lewis Hamilton.

His first corner attempt at forcing Kimi to yield the lead looked frought with danger to both cars, and had he took both cars out, he would have hastened Fernando's passage to Ferrari (my opinion here).

To make matters worse (or better depending who's side you are on), Bernie would dearly love to see Alonso at Ferrari racing against Kimi as this would make oodles more money for him.

Now we await Bahrein to see how Massa will shape up.
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:12 AM   #14
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If Alonso beat MS in 2005 then we can definitely say that Schumy kicked his butt big time in 2001, 2003 and 2004. Moreover we can also say that Alonso will get beaten very badly in 2008 by a lot of mediocre drivers....

Alonso and the whining has already started. And it is just 2 races into the season. What a difference from MS back in 2005 who never once said anything bad about his team in public.. Alonso is a moaner and whiner and he deserves that Renault this year..
First of all I am a fan of Mikes first, and foremost. I felt like my heart was ripped out when Mike's engine let go in Japan 2006! I was pissed off for a month. The reason I referenced him was to contrast how difficult a task Fred had to become the most accomplished driver in the current field. I NEVER SAID HE WAS A GREATER DRIVER, CHAMPION, OR HUMAN BEING THAN MIKE!! (which seems to be a touchy subject with you) He could have handled the situation at McLaren so much more professionally. He didn't! Now he is paying the price.
He is not whinning at Renault! As far as his attitude toward his current team I have no idea where you have read about his whinning about them! This is the only statement I've read that refers directly to his relaionship with the team and his current campaign:
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"I'm at Renault because we won in 2005 and 2006 and I want to get back to that, if not this year then next year," he told Spanish newspaper AS.

In fact he has gone out of his way to inform his massive Spanish following to not put to high of expectations on him or Renault. These are his words to his fans:

"Take a sabbatical, or enjoy the season for the spectacle of Formula One and not for my chances of success," he said.

His tones in his statements are in no way derogatory toward Renault. If anything they are encouraging, not necessarily complimentary. Simply realistic!

It's early to talk about moves and rumors, but Massa has had two bad races with mistakes and that has sparked speculation," Alonso said.

Translation:

You guy's (the press) have brought this up, not me!
http://sportal.com.au/motorsport-new...ari-move-45514
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:17 AM   #15
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First of all I am a fan of Mikes first, and foremost. I felt like my heart was ripped out when Mike's engine let go in Japan 2006! I was pissed off for a month. The reason I referenced him was to contrast how difficult a task Fred had to become the most accomplished driver in the current field. I NEVER SAID HE WAS A GREATER DRIVER, CHAMPION, OR HUMAN BEING THAN MIKE!! (which seems to be a touchy subject with you) He could have handled the situation at McLaren so much more professionally. He didn't! Now he is paying the price.
He is not whinning at Renault! As far as his attitude toward his current team I have no idea where you have read about his whinning about them! This is the only statement I've read that refers directly to his relaionship with the team and his current campaign:
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"I'm at Renault because we won in 2005 and 2006 and I want to get back to that, if not this year then next year," he told Spanish newspaper AS.

In fact he has gone out of his way to inform his massive Spanish following to not put to high of expectations on him or Renault. These are his words to his fans:

"Take a sabbatical, or enjoy the season for the spectacle of Formula One and not for my chances of success," he said.

His tones in his statements are in no way derogatory toward Renault. If anything they are encouraging, not necessarily complimentary. Simply realistic!

It's early to talk about moves and rumors, but Massa has had two bad races with mistakes and that has sparked speculation," Alonso said.

Translation:

You guy's (the press) have brought this up, not me!
http://sportal.com.au/motorsport-new...ari-move-45514
AS always, a good post

Pity others read more in others' posts and jump in with both feet firmly planted in their mouths (figuratively, of course).
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:45 AM   #16
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First of all I am a fan of Mikes first, and foremost. I felt like my heart was ripped out when Mike's engine let go in Japan 2006! I was pissed off for a month. The reason I referenced him was to contrast how difficult a task Fred had to become the most accomplished driver in the current field. I NEVER SAID HE WAS A GREATER DRIVER, CHAMPION, OR HUMAN BEING THAN MIKE!! (which seems to be a touchy subject with you) He could have handled the situation at McLaren so much more professionally. He didn't! Now he is paying the price.
He is not whinning at Renault! As far as his attitude toward his current team I have no idea where you have read about his whinning about them! This is the only statement I've read that refers directly to his relaionship with the team and his current campaign:
.
"I'm at Renault because we won in 2005 and 2006 and I want to get back to that, if not this year then next year," he told Spanish newspaper AS.

In fact he has gone out of his way to inform his massive Spanish following to not put to high of expectations on him or Renault. These are his words to his fans:

"Take a sabbatical, or enjoy the season for the spectacle of Formula One and not for my chances of success," he said.

His tones in his statements are in no way derogatory toward Renault. If anything they are encouraging, not necessarily complimentary. Simply realistic!

It's early to talk about moves and rumors, but Massa has had two bad races with mistakes and that has sparked speculation," Alonso said.

Translation:

You guy's (the press) have brought this up, not me!
http://sportal.com.au/motorsport-new...ari-move-45514
If he is such a leader then why does he have to mutter anything to the press at all. There is definitely something brewing in his mind as he knows this year he will get his butt kicked by a lot of drivers..

He says that he wants to drive the best cars. Which driver does not want to do that..However why cant he take this as a challenge and get his team back to winning ways instead of talking to the press. It hardly brings any confidence to his team..
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:03 AM   #17
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If he is such a leader then why does he have to mutter anything to the press at all.
The term "leader" is used exactly zero time in my response to your attack!

There is definitely something brewing in his mind as he knows this year he will get his butt kicked by a lot of drivers...
I can't argue with a mind reader!
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:28 AM   #18
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Hm. I've just been enjoying the spectacle of Alonso's pure driving talent in a lessor car, watching him grab that twitchy, ugly ING Renault by the throat and raising the car to positions in the standings that car really has no right to be in.

Why are Alonso haters saying he can "improve" the team like MS? Alonso's only been back in the Renault for two races since leaving McL! Problably he won't, but how do you know for sure? I wish I had your crystal ball!
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:35 AM   #19
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Hm. I've just been enjoying the spectacle of Alonso's pure driving talent in a lessor car, watching him grab that twitchy, ugly ING Renault by the throat and raising the car to positions in the standings that car really has no right to be in.

Why are Alonso haters saying he can "improve" the team like MS? Alonso's only been back in the Renault for two races since leaving McL! Problably he won't, but how do you know for sure? I wish I had your crystal ball!
Atleast he should stop whining about where he will go next yr...Just encourage the team and stop talkin to press would be a good way to start..
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:22 PM   #20
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i expected Alonso to give this statement....
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