[Kimeoffessyr]

is that wheel hub not held in place by the wheel nut i think he would have had a lose wheel.

[pataagusata]

Good point. The only thing that apparently doesn't move is the track, but then it is part of the earth which rotates and revolves around the sun. We need Einstein to resolve this.

But is the Earth aerodynamic since it moves through "empty" space? Therefore, the FIA would allow the earth (especially since Bernie owns most of it!)

[pkxlugbsbv]

BeansBeansBeans thanks for the backing.

I just thought it was strange that you replied to DonJippo saying he was ignorant of the rules when he was merely making the same point but with humour.

The thing is JJanicke seems to think it IS an aero device so he's not completely right Personally I think it's a good bash

I too agree that the moving wheel cover is doesn't justify a thread. If there was any advantage gained I'm sure it was unintentional. No need for disquilification

I do not consider it a movable areo device. The FIA classified it as legal last year. That said I do find it strange that a mass damper is considered a movable aero device and therefore banned, and a brake cooling system, that clearly moves with relation to the sprung chassis and improves airflow around the wheels isn't considered one.

So bash away, while knowing I was right all along

[VFOVkZBj]

Personally I'm baffled how a MOVING AIR extractor is not a "movable aerodynamic device" in the first place.

I do not consider it a movable areo device. The FIA classified it as legal last year. That said I do find it strange that a mass damper is considered a movable aero device and therefore banned, and a brake cooling system, that clearly moves with relation to the sprung chassis and improves airflow around the wheels isn't considered one.

So bash away, while knowing I was right all along

Split personalities?

[pkxlugbsbv]

Split personalities?

The brake cooling fairings are, by the FIA, legal and I accept that. That doesn't mean I have to agree with decision. But a decision is a decision and as long as the FIA enforces it unilaterally I could care less whether or not it's actually a movable aero device.

[VFOVkZBj]

The brake cooling fairings are, by the FIA, legal and I accept that. That doesn't mean I have to agree with decision. But a decision is a decision and as long as the FIA enforces it unilaterally I could care less whether or not it's actually a movable aero device.

Why is a disc on the outside any different to a duct on the inside of the wheel. It's a brake cooling duct. Story. End off.

[pkxlugbsbv]

Why is a disc on the outside any different to a duct on the inside of the wheel. It's a brake cooling duct. Story. End off.

Because the duct actually negatively impacts aero efficiency. That's why teams try to minimize the size of the duct as much as possible.

The brake cooling fairing improves airflow around the tires, reducing the drag they produce. The FIA actually introduced rules some time back to stop teams from building wheel/tire fairings.

Keep 'em coming!

[ElisasAUG]

It's dilemmas like these that make 22 pieces of identical 2x2 flat cardboard would be easier to understand.

[pataagusata]

Because the duct actually negatively impacts aero efficiency. That's why teams try to minimize the size of the duct as much as possible.

The brake cooling fairing improves airflow around the tires, reducing the drag they produce. The FIA actually introduced rules some time back to stop teams from building wheel/tire fairings.

Keep 'em coming!

So a moveable aero device that decreases performance is allowable, but if it increases performance, it's not legal? I thought ALL moving aero devices were illegal (even the stupid ones that would decrease performance.)

[pkxlugbsbv]

wmcot, sounds reasonable to me. Why would you get penalized if you are already penalizing yourself?

[pataagusata]

wmcot, sounds reasonable to me. Why would you get penalized if you are already penalizing yourself?

Just following the rules...

[VistaULTIMATEdownloadaPro]

Last I understood it extracted air through the brakes for cooling, and it moves when the tires steer. Personally I'm baffled how a MOVING AIR extractor is not a "movable aerodynamic device" in the first place.

Tires move too under steering, and Ferarri use them too, so ban them!

[inmeirulez]

Tires move too under steering, and Ferarri use them too, so ban them!

Awesome. No more front wheel steering... They'll need to use the Differential to steer the cars.

[pkxlugbsbv]

Wow this thread has spiraled into the nether regions.

Peace-out!

[sharpyure]

Wow this thread has spiraled into the nether regions.

Peace-out!

Sounds like there is also a need for a proctologist on the FIA inspection team...maybe he could also use a rectal thrermometer to figure out correct fuel temps....

[Lebybynctisee]

Sounds like there is also a need for a proctologist on the FIA inspection team...maybe he could also use a rectal thrermometer to figure out correct fuel temps....

Trouble is, some of today's drivers are puckered up tighter than a snare drum, the FIA guy would have trouble inserting the aforementioned temerature monitoring device....!!