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Old 01-08-2008, 06:35 PM   #1
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Default Alonso hints at get-out clause WHY ?
http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story/7639014

Fernando Alonso has hinted there is a get-out clause in his Renault deal which would allow him to quit the team at the end of the 2008 season.
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:41 PM   #2
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Doesn't surprise me at all. These things are fairly standard. Often they are something like that if the team fails to score x number of points in a certain number of races then the driver is free to leave.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:17 PM   #3
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as a 2 x wdc that is a smart deal for Alonso. Plus maybe Flavio has retirement or movement on his mind as well
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:26 PM   #4
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i bet thats just in case asslonso starts off like he did at mclaren and if renault get sick of his winging they can kick him off the team hehehe
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:38 PM   #5
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That's why the Renault deal took so long, all along it was said that Flav wanted him to sign for 2 years or more but Alonso wanted to be free for 2009 if Renault turned out to suck as much as they did in 2007.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:39 PM   #6
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There were reports a while back that Alonso's wish for a 1yr contract was preventing any deal. Red Bull may have been one team willing to consider that, but it seems he has reached a compromise with Renault.

Does this mean that a move to Ferrari is still on the cards for 2009
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:40 PM   #7
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Does this mean that a move to Ferrari is still on the cards for 2009
Yes, he has already signed for 2009... in his dreams
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:27 AM   #8
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This is a tuff "read" without seeing the contract.

Alsonso may have insisted on a one year commitment due to Renault's poor performance in 2007.

On the other hand... Renault may have insisted on the one year contract... giving Renault an "OUT"...

because of Alonso's character flaws.

As good a driver as Alonso is... his attitude disrupts a team.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:58 AM   #9
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Yes, it disrupts 'a' team.....Mclaren.

Alonso & Renault is a completely different scenario. Different as in 'successful'.
Many people at Renault were GLAD to see Alsono go... in 2006 !!!

He left Renault.... with much... BITTERNESS and RESENTMENT...
at the end of the 2006 season.

I'm sure the same emotions that Renault felt in 2006 regarding Alonso... were in the McLaren team, last year.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:29 AM   #10
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Many people at Renault were GLAD to see Alsono go... in 2006 !!!

He left Renault.... with much... BITTERNESS and RESENTMENT...
at the end of the 2006 season.

I'm sure the same emotions that Renault felt in 2006 regarding Alonso... were in the McLaren team, last year.
Yeah right... funny boy
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:20 AM   #11
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From what Autosport were saying at the time, he has a two year contract with get out clauses after 1 year incase it goes the same way as his McLaren time or a better ride (i.e. Ferrari) comes along.
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:02 AM   #12
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Alonso & Renault is a completely different scenario. Different as in 'successful'.
If that is the case, why the need for a get out clause. Personally I think Onslo is on a par with the Scots that enter the highland games - tossers.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:57 AM   #13
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Many people at Renault were GLAD to see Alsono go... in 2006 !!!

He left Renault.... with much... BITTERNESS and RESENTMENT...
at the end of the 2006 season.

I'm sure the same emotions that Renault felt in 2006 regarding Alonso... were in the McLaren team, last year.
Actually I think Tamburello has a good point.

Renault and McLaren are two teams with totally different cultures.

Alonso's antics were tolerated at Renault as long as he drove the nuts off the car every other weekend which he did. They weren't at McLaren which requires its drivers to tow the party line a lot more closely. There's a good interview with Flavio somewhere where he talks about balancing the personal needs of a fast driver's ego with the need to cut him down to size when he gets too big for his boots.

If there was so much bitterness and resentment at Renault regarding Alonso may I suggest that they wouldn't have him back? Everything I've read about the team indicates that they're glad to have him back though they remember his negatives as well as positives.

That said we did see a preview of Alonso's inability to handle pressure with his comments in 2006 re: not getting full Renault support which was clearly total BS.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:22 AM   #14
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Actually I think Tamburello has a good point.

Renault and McLaren are two teams with totally different cultures.

Alonso's antics were tolerated at Renault as long as he drove the nuts off the car every other weekend which he did. They weren't at McLaren which requires its drivers to tow the party line a lot more closely. There's a good interview with Flavio somewhere where he talks about balancing the personal needs of a fast driver's ego with the need to cut him down to size when he gets too big for his boots.

If there was so much bitterness and resentment at Renault regarding Alonso may I suggest that they wouldn't have him back? Everything I've read about the team indicates that they're glad to have him back though they remember his negatives as well as positives.

That said we did see a preview of Alonso's inability to handle pressure with his comments in 2006 re: not getting full Renault support which was clearly total BS.
No FA was not the golden boy @ mac, and he never did to golden boy, anything close to what golden boy did to him...geeaasss, NOW do you see why I keep repeating myself, Wilko..got to love the brit view of the world....Loui is throwing fits and it is all Freddie's fault....I guess we should blame Louie being the champion choker of all time on Freddie......
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:34 AM   #15
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Yes, he has already signed for 2009... in his dreams
Has Dr Phil confirmed that yet?
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:55 AM   #16
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No FA was not the golden boy @ mac, and he never did to golden boy, anything close to what golden boy did to him...geeaasss, NOW do you see why I keep repeating myself, Wilko..got to love the brit view of the world....Loui is throwing fits and it is all Freddie's fault....I guess we should blame Louie being the champion choker of all time on Freddie......
Did you actually read what I wrote?

How Alonso's teammates reacted to him is irrelevant. His reaction to times when he was beaten by his teammates is.

By all accounts when Alonso was beaten by Fisi he went berserk. You did not want to be in the Renault garage at Indy 2006 when Fisi simply outpaced him all weekend. It didn't matter whether Fisi was subservient or Renault preferred Alonso to win.

The same happened at McLaren when Hamilton beat him more often than Fisi beat him at Renault.

McLaren didn't tolerate tantrums whether it be from Alonso or Hamilton. Renault did within certain boundaries.

Oh and whilst I'm sure Hamilton had his fits, can you actually come up with anything substantive that suggests that he threatened to blackmail McLaren like Alonso did?
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:00 AM   #17
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I think FA and Renault were already in discourse late of last season about possibility they work together next season, that's why he turned down the more beautiful money from Toyota whereas he has no contract in hand.

Both Renault and Alonso already knew each other, and therefore no need to make contract in a rush.

I think the long negotiation to make the deal was coupled with which partner they would work with next season. FA would always prefer Fisi to others, but Jr seems to be a string attached if they want more investment from partners like Telmex.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:57 PM   #18
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I would suspect that after the 2007 season it will be common to have "get out" clauses for both parties involved in the contract!
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:10 PM   #19
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I'm glad Alonso is on the grid and ready to roll. If things don't workout then he can just throw a hissy fit, leave, and choose another team for 2009.

To be honest, I would just relish the sight of Lewis giving this Iberian punk a world class beat down on the track. I'm hoping Renault is competitive so it can be a fair fight against McLaren.

Anyone else feel that way?
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:33 PM   #20
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I see it from the way other than expectation to cash down bitterness he had during he drove McLaren, but how good he will develop a car from the 4th in the championship.

This is really a big job, the policy of the use of MES for the series will be another task from which McLaren will have some benefit for the Renault to fight against.

If both parties satisfied with the result, it could probably the single season contract to be extended. Who would want to hire Alonso other than Renault? Ferrari has said that Kimi is stronger than FA, unless if he can prove a miracle this year to make their eyes open.
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