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**disappointment2** · 11-17-2011, 04:32 AM

World Rally Championship - News - Hirvonen replaces Ogier at Citroen

Too bad he's leaving the blue oval

Now he's only gonna play support and not be allowed to win a single rally unless Sèb retires. Can't wait to see Latvala next year, we's gonna be quite a competitor for the drivers championship

**didrexx** · 11-17-2011, 05:18 AM

I was shocked at the news and about Ogier going to another team as well. Its going to be very interesting for fans, now we have more than 2 contenders for the championship, Loeb, Latvala, Ogier, maybe Mikko, the Min guys.

Always liked Mikko ever since people criticized him during hist first half season at Ford, but disappointed that he would play second fiddle to Sebastian. As I said in another thread, he lost his last chance of becoming world champion when retiring Wales, and this move sealed that.

It could be the case with Button going to McLaren and beat Hamilton with the same machinery. But then Button was already world champion and had a good contract, I'm doubting Mikko will get the same support as Loeb. Still, I WANT TO SEE MIKKO SKILLS IN THE CITROEN VS LOEB.

It seem plans for Mikko has been laid out:
“Everybody knows he can play the perfect supporting role, which is what he did fantastic for us in 2006 and 2007. It’s very clear what the strategy is [at Citroen] and who is their number one." Malcolm
"Mikko is a talented driver and his consistency will be a big help in our fight to retain the manufacturers’ title." Quesnel

Hopes he prove me wrong.

**karkinadze** · 11-17-2011, 05:21 AM

Go Loeb.

**allachakb** · 11-17-2011, 07:08 AM

I thought I was being trolled before I read the link. Would not have guessed this one.

**LymnInvinny** · 11-17-2011, 07:30 AM

Knew this was in the pipelines. Interesting move, although I don't think Quesnel will allow them to go head to head. I hope this doesn't turn into another Sordo scenario for Mikko. Having a Citroen C4 is good but only if he is allowed to drive it at full speed...

**Ternneowns** · 11-17-2011, 07:47 AM

Knew this was in the pipelines. Interesting move, although I don't think Quesnel will allow them to go head to head. I hope this doesn't turn into another Sordo scenario for Mikko. Having a Citroen C4 is good but only if he is allowed to drive it at full speed...

surely you mean a DS-3?

**rbVmVlQ2** · 11-17-2011, 07:58 AM

I hope he will continue with Citroen after Loeb leaves. This will be his best chance. I was initially skeptical about this deal myself but i can see that Mikko could not keep driving semi-perfect cars. On a positive note, he has come along way since 2004 with Subaru.

**payloansday** · 11-17-2011, 08:24 AM

I think Citroen will leave together with Loeb....

**NofFoomiTot** · 11-17-2011, 09:07 AM

...and will be replaced by Peugeot

**payloansday** · 11-17-2011, 09:47 AM

sounds good.

**rbVmVlQ2** · 11-17-2011, 10:08 AM

I think that it would be imprudent to write off Mikko's chances of a title long-term. Not for 2 years anyway, maybe at Peugeot like Gronholm.
I think that he still has a good chance of winning Sweden and Finland at least.

**Uciaucrx** · 11-17-2011, 10:51 AM

Another thread needed?

**xanaxist** · 11-17-2011, 03:47 PM

Don't forget-also Quesnel will be replaced for 2012!!

**Mr Andrews** · 11-18-2011, 12:26 AM

Bad choice by Citroen, good bye to title for Mikko. I agree that next two seasons may be the last two years of the Citroen works operation.

**jdynwa** · 11-18-2011, 12:47 AM

Bad choice by Citroen

Who do you think hey should have choosen? I dont think there was any other option, Ogier basicly kicked out, Latvala continiues 1 year more with Ford, the younger guys still lack experience.

**Emedgella** · 11-18-2011, 01:00 AM

I think Citroen will leave together with Loeb....

Me too. Maybe PSA will follow him to Le mans with the Loeb racing team or whatever its going to be called? Maybe not in the same class as peugeot though

Hey, werent you the one who was calling everyone a "village idiot" for suggesting Hirvonen may move to Citroen?

**DrBrightonone** · 11-18-2011, 03:22 AM

Who do you think hey should have choosen? I dont think there was any other option, Ogier basicly kicked out, Latvala continiues 1 year more with Ford, the younger guys still lack experience.

In my opinion Petter Solberg is still a faster driver than Hirvonen.

**jdynwa** · 11-18-2011, 04:19 AM

In my opinion Petter Solberg is still a faster driver than Hirvonen.

Citroen who has been working with him close now for some time dont seem to share your opinion.

**adesseridopaw** · 11-18-2011, 05:01 AM

Citroen who has been working with him close now for some time dont seem to share your opinion.

More a case of Petter working with/for Citroen. Not a good comparison, Petter has never had the same resources, he can't change components every 5 minutes, he has to think of the next event and he has to give some return to his backers. Keep in mind also he had to help fund the last 2 or so rounds himself, not a comfortable position to be in. If he was in Hirvonen's situation I think Petter would be faster.

**rbVmVlQ2** · 11-18-2011, 08:33 AM

Me too. Maybe PSA will follow him to Le mans with the Loeb racing team or whatever its going to be called? Maybe not in the same class as peugeot though

Hey, werent you the one who was calling everyone a "village idiot" for suggesting Hirvonen may move to Citroen?

Why would Citroen and Loeb only commit for another 2 years? Surely they would like to extract further marketing revenue beyond this point? The DS3 will still be amazing!

If you are right it will be the end of Mikko's career; i can't imagine who would sign him after what is coming his way next year.

11-17-2011, 04:32 AM	#1
disappointment2 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	CONFIRMED: Mikko moves to Citroën for 2012 World Rally Championship - News - Hirvonen replaces Ogier at Citroen Too bad he's leaving the blue oval Now he's only gonna play support and not be allowed to win a single rally unless Sèb retires. Can't wait to see Latvala next year, we's gonna be quite a competitor for the drivers championship Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2011, 05:18 AM	#2
didrexx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	I was shocked at the news and about Ogier going to another team as well. Its going to be very interesting for fans, now we have more than 2 contenders for the championship, Loeb, Latvala, Ogier, maybe Mikko, the Min guys. Always liked Mikko ever since people criticized him during hist first half season at Ford, but disappointed that he would play second fiddle to Sebastian. As I said in another thread, he lost his last chance of becoming world champion when retiring Wales, and this move sealed that. It could be the case with Button going to McLaren and beat Hamilton with the same machinery. But then Button was already world champion and had a good contract, I'm doubting Mikko will get the same support as Loeb. Still, I WANT TO SEE MIKKO SKILLS IN THE CITROEN VS LOEB. It seem plans for Mikko has been laid out: “Everybody knows he can play the perfect supporting role, which is what he did fantastic for us in 2006 and 2007. It’s very clear what the strategy is [at Citroen] and who is their number one." Malcolm "Mikko is a talented driver and his consistency will be a big help in our fight to retain the manufacturers’ title." Quesnel Hopes he prove me wrong. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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karkinadze Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	Go Loeb. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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allachakb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	I thought I was being trolled before I read the link. Would not have guessed this one. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2011, 07:30 AM	#5
LymnInvinny Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	Knew this was in the pipelines. Interesting move, although I don't think Quesnel will allow them to go head to head. I hope this doesn't turn into another Sordo scenario for Mikko. Having a Citroen C4 is good but only if he is allowed to drive it at full speed... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2011, 07:47 AM	#6
Ternneowns Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 541 Senior Member	Knew this was in the pipelines. Interesting move, although I don't think Quesnel will allow them to go head to head. I hope this doesn't turn into another Sordo scenario for Mikko. Having a Citroen C4 is good but only if he is allowed to drive it at full speed... surely you mean a DS-3? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2011, 07:58 AM	#7
rbVmVlQ2 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	I hope he will continue with Citroen after Loeb leaves. This will be his best chance. I was initially skeptical about this deal myself but i can see that Mikko could not keep driving semi-perfect cars. On a positive note, he has come along way since 2004 with Subaru. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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payloansday Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 605 Senior Member	I think Citroen will leave together with Loeb.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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NofFoomiTot Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 429 Senior Member	...and will be replaced by Peugeot Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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payloansday Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 605 Senior Member	sounds good. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2011, 10:08 AM	#11
rbVmVlQ2 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	I think that it would be imprudent to write off Mikko's chances of a title long-term. Not for 2 years anyway, maybe at Peugeot like Gronholm. I think that he still has a good chance of winning Sweden and Finland at least. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Uciaucrx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	Another thread needed? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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xanaxist Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 489 Senior Member	Don't forget-also Quesnel will be replaced for 2012!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-18-2011, 12:26 AM	#14
Mr Andrews Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 347 Senior Member	Bad choice by Citroen, good bye to title for Mikko. I agree that next two seasons may be the last two years of the Citroen works operation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-18-2011, 12:47 AM	#15
jdynwa Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	Bad choice by Citroen Who do you think hey should have choosen? I dont think there was any other option, Ogier basicly kicked out, Latvala continiues 1 year more with Ford, the younger guys still lack experience. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-18-2011, 01:00 AM	#16
Emedgella Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	I think Citroen will leave together with Loeb.... Me too. Maybe PSA will follow him to Le mans with the Loeb racing team or whatever its going to be called? Maybe not in the same class as peugeot though Hey, werent you the one who was calling everyone a "village idiot" for suggesting Hirvonen may move to Citroen? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-18-2011, 03:22 AM	#17
DrBrightonone Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 556 Senior Member	Who do you think hey should have choosen? I dont think there was any other option, Ogier basicly kicked out, Latvala continiues 1 year more with Ford, the younger guys still lack experience. In my opinion Petter Solberg is still a faster driver than Hirvonen. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-18-2011, 04:19 AM	#18
jdynwa Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	In my opinion Petter Solberg is still a faster driver than Hirvonen. Citroen who has been working with him close now for some time dont seem to share your opinion. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-18-2011, 05:01 AM	#19
adesseridopaw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	Citroen who has been working with him close now for some time dont seem to share your opinion. More a case of Petter working with/for Citroen. Not a good comparison, Petter has never had the same resources, he can't change components every 5 minutes, he has to think of the next event and he has to give some return to his backers. Keep in mind also he had to help fund the last 2 or so rounds himself, not a comfortable position to be in. If he was in Hirvonen's situation I think Petter would be faster. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-18-2011, 08:33 AM	#20
rbVmVlQ2 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Me too. Maybe PSA will follow him to Le mans with the Loeb racing team or whatever its going to be called? Maybe not in the same class as peugeot though Hey, werent you the one who was calling everyone a "village idiot" for suggesting Hirvonen may move to Citroen? Why would Citroen and Loeb only commit for another 2 years? Surely they would like to extract further marketing revenue beyond this point? The DS3 will still be amazing! If you are right it will be the end of Mikko's career; i can't imagine who would sign him after what is coming his way next year. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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