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Old 05-08-2012, 07:28 AM   #21
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I noticed many of u haven't given post Butterfly a big chance
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:03 PM   #22
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I have a soft spot for Mariah. She's ridiculous on so many levels, but she is certainly talented. Her voice has lost the sheer force it once had and some of its gorgeous, crystal-clear tone, but she still has a remarkable voice. Sometimes I find the "head voice" she overuses to be kind of annoying, though.

Some of her music is unbearably generic, Music Box being a good example. And some of her music lacks focus. That said, she's had a number of very strong songs and albums. I'm particularly fond of her debut, Butterfly, and E = MC2. I think E = MC2 is very underrated and actually prefer it to The Emancipation of Mimi, which is also good.


Favorite songs:

Vision of Love
Vanishing
I Don't Wanna Cry
You're So Cold
Without You
Fantasy
Breakdown
The Roof
I Feel It (unreleased, from the Emancipation era)
Last Kiss
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:33 PM   #23
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I prefer E=MC2 over Emancipation too
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:02 PM   #24
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No Mariah fan here, but anyway, I stumbled across this fan reaction to a remix of the new song. Well, enjoy watching, it's sooo terrible
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:54 PM   #25
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Here's the unreleased track I mentioned as one of my top 10 Mariah tunes ... "I Feel It":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HQOEFG0qWU


And here's some info about the song that I cut and pasted:

"I Feel It" was originally written and produced by Carey and Mahogany for the The Emancipation of Mimi album. The song was supposed to be released on all versions of The Emancipation of Mimi and was confirmed as a track from early reports of the album's tracklisting. However, only weeks before the album was to be released, the sample of The Dynamic Superiors' "Here Comes That Feeling" that was used in the song was denied clearance by the original songwriters. Carey and her record label pleaded to have the sample cleared, but were once again denied. As a result, the track was not legally allowed to be released and the track "Joy Ride" replaced it on the album. A very brief and rough cell phone recording of a snippet of "I Feel It" was leaked to the internet by fans of Carey in early 2005. The entire track leaked to the internet in July 2007 after a snippet was featured on Mahogany's official MySpace profile, but a controversy arose after fans complained that he had charged $1.99 for the song but failed to deliver it on time. In a recent interview with Rashmi Shastri Mahogany stated about "I Feel It" that 'it's so soulful you would want the whole album to be like that'.


I LOVE this song. If she delivered a whole album like this it'd probably be her best record.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:38 PM   #26
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HUGE Mariah fan here. The last couple of albums each took a while to grow on me, but Mimi and E=MC2 are pretty damn awesome and I prefer them to some of her older work (I agree with whoever said that Music Box is overrated). Favourite album as a whole is probably Butterfly, and I adore her first album too, warts and all (PRISONER!!! That rap is hilarious).

Memoirs is a fine album, but I never listen to it all the way through, it bores me. There's some standout tracks though. I especially love More Than Just Friends, the lyrics are fun! Hate U is awesome, but is marred by the terrible, TERRIBLE vocal editing in the bridge. Just syllable after syllable being pasted together there and it is so noticable. Ugh. She definitely lost the vocal power she posessed in the '90s, which is why, when performing live these days, she usually lips half of her songs, only singing the verses and mouths along with a tape when the vocals gets tougher. It's kinda sad, really. I still enjoy most of her studio work though.

The new single is alright, definitely too much rap though. But I have good hopes for the album.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:39 PM   #27
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Here's the unreleased track I mentioned as one of my top 10 Mariah tunes ... "I Feel It":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HQOEFG0qWU


And here's some info about the song that I cut and pasted:

"I Feel It" was originally written and produced by Carey and Mahogany for the The Emancipation of Mimi album. The song was supposed to be released on all versions of The Emancipation of Mimi and was confirmed as a track from early reports of the album's tracklisting. However, only weeks before the album was to be released, the sample of The Dynamic Superiors' "Here Comes That Feeling" that was used in the song was denied clearance by the original songwriters. Carey and her record label pleaded to have the sample cleared, but were once again denied. As a result, the track was not legally allowed to be released and the track "Joy Ride" replaced it on the album. A very brief and rough cell phone recording of a snippet of "I Feel It" was leaked to the internet by fans of Carey in early 2005. The entire track leaked to the internet in July 2007 after a snippet was featured on Mahogany's official MySpace profile, but a controversy arose after fans complained that he had charged $1.99 for the song but failed to deliver it on time. In a recent interview with Rashmi Shastri Mahogany stated about "I Feel It" that 'it's so soulful you would want the whole album to be like that'.


I LOVE this song. If she delivered a whole album like this it'd probably be her best record.
SO MUCH BETTER THAN JOYRIDE. That song is really boring. Such a shame they couldn't get the sample cleared.

Another gem of a song that remains fairly unknown is Slipping Away, a B-side from the Daydream album:
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:10 AM   #28
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That Throwback remix of "Triumphant" is killer. I did not have nearly the same reaction as that guy in the video up above, but I love the remix!
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:39 AM   #29
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SO MUCH BETTER THAN JOYRIDE. That song is really boring. Such a shame they couldn't get the sample cleared.

Another gem of a song that remains fairly unknown is Slipping Away, a B-side from the Daydream album:
I had the single and totally forgot about it. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:22 PM   #30
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I had the single and totally forgot about it. Thanks for sharing!
Had, as in, not anymore? Too bad, it's quite rare these days, you could make a few bucks selling it. And you're welcome!
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:27 PM   #31
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Why do you think the vocal editing in the bridge of Hate U is bad?? I don't hear it. To say its terrible is really extreme. I think it's so beautiful and so heartfelt all the way through. Everything from the lyrics to her vocals and even her background vocals at the end work so beautifully.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:52 AM   #32
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Had, as in, not anymore? Too bad, it's quite rare these days, you could make a few bucks selling it. And you're welcome!
Yeah back in 1996 but I traded the ABMB single with a girl freshman year for a Smiley Face backpack along with a 3T single Yes, was super lame!
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Old 07-08-2012, 12:28 PM   #33
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So, wait, are there no other MC purists in here? (i.e. Daydream and everything before is acceptable, everything after is horrific?)
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:36 PM   #34
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The only two Mariah albums I ever owned were Daydream and Butterfly. I was 11 or 12 and I adored those albums. I still play them occasionally for the sentimental factor. Otherwise I don't really like Mariah at all.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:18 PM   #35
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I prefer Mariah post-Butterfly. Her most heartfelt work came after that.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:23 PM   #36
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I totally forgot about Everything Fades Away which is the best thing about the Music Box album.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:56 PM   #37
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I have a soft spot for Mariah. She's ridiculous on so many levels, but she is certainly talented. Her voice has lost the sheer force it once had and some of its gorgeous, crystal-clear tone, but she still has a remarkable voice.
This is exactly how I think of Mariah. When I was young, I used to be a big fan of her music. Then, my musical taste changed drastically and now I rarely listen to her anymore. Still, I give every new record a listen and I still think she is a very talented songwriter and singer. It's just not my cup of tea anymore. Her sense of humor, however, is unparalleled! To me, some of Mariah's best songs are:

The Roof (Back In Time)
Breakdown
Close My Eyes
Outside
Looking In
If It's Over
Vision Of Love
Vanishing
Crybaby
Subtle Invitation
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:33 PM   #38
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So, wait, are there no other MC purists in here? (i.e. Daydream and everything before is acceptable, everything after is horrific?)
*bes an MC purist with you*
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:08 PM   #39
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While I prefer her 90s output, I still enjoy some tracks from the 00's albums. I got into her around Daydream (I think One Sweet Day was the first cassette single I had) and stuck with her.

The Emancipation of Mimi reminded me how much I loved her. It truly showcases her voice better than anything since Butterfly. She's had moments of glory on the follow-ups, but nothing quite as high as that album. For the purists, I think songs like Mine Again, Fly Like a Bird, and I Wish You Knew rank among her bests songs. We Belong Together, perhaps a little overplayed, is still one of my favorite singles from her.

I saw I Wish You Well on someone's list, and that is definitely one of my favorites from the recent albums. Classic Mariah melody and the Biblical nature works for the song.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:23 AM   #40
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So, wait, are there no other MC purists in here? (i.e. Daydream and everything before is acceptable, everything after is horrific?)
Though I do adore early Mariah, I havent given newer Mariah a chance. I need to catch up! with this thread it has inspired me to.
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