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TeapseTic 09-04-2010 04:45 PM

Us troops, helping haiti or themselves??
 
Seems after reading the March issue of Stars and Stripes and looking at some affiliated web sites, it seems that the main objective for troops deployed to Haiti was for Haiti to be used for a training ground for troops that have no combat training,http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smilies/pirate.gif getting them ready for Afghanistan rather than rendering services to the earthquake victims in Haiti.
I find this typical of US standards, and seems we are not alone, the Canadian military is using Haiti for the same.
Hummmmm

Derrida 09-04-2010 04:52 PM

WTF are you talking about. You have links to the articles you are referring to. Or just trying to stir sh!t. I am sure that whatever tha troops are doing in Hatia is more than you are doing. Another armchair quarterback.

pIp83Uns 09-04-2010 04:54 PM

Which issue of Stars and Stripes are you referring to?

Since Stars and Stripes is published daily, it is difficult to discern which issue has the reveling story in it. Please post the issue of interest. I look forward to reading it.

Ehlgamxf 09-04-2010 04:58 PM

I would find it hard to believe that it would be a MAIN objective as you state.
A secondary or tertiary objective maybe.

A military force is constantly training, practicing or on exercise. If the forces that are currently deployed to Haiti aren't actually engaged in the digging, stopping the looting, coordinating relief efforts, etc, then possibly their commanding officers might take up the opportunity to use this unique scenario as a training aid.

KahiroSamo 09-04-2010 05:02 PM

What's your agenda sparky?

How about a link as Jumbo suggested.

By the way; impressive body of posts you have here on Haiti1. http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smilies/tired.gif

TeapseTic 09-04-2010 05:07 PM

The Pentagon is using Haiti as a Training Ground for Afghanistan


OK Jumbo, I'm just trying to stir up some s***. While your at it, why don't you read up on some other issues in the world. Maybe you'll learn something.
Global research.

DurryVony 09-04-2010 05:08 PM

I agree with thr OP that this is being used as an opportunity to enhance their presence in the area and possibly to be used as a staging area for future campaigns in Colombia, Venezuela and points south.

Filling25 09-04-2010 05:14 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing FARC wiped out or Chavez evicted...so what...? I am not in a position to determine what is best for the US of A...They were elected and selected, let them do it and if you do not agree, vote differently in the next elections.

I think I will post what is supposed to be the best bar joke so far...look in the Clown Bin

HB

TeapseTic 09-04-2010 05:14 PM

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What's your agenda sparky?

How about a link as Jumbo suggested.

By the way; impressive body of posts you have here on Haiti1. http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smilies/tired.gif
A Giant Step for Mankind – Made in*Haïti

Hows this for impessive ???? I only post what I can back up, not like the usual crap here going back and forth....until an argument.
grow up....

Frjrbefd 09-04-2010 05:14 PM

I am sure the Haitians would agree that it is a small price to pay in exchange for the billions that American taxpayers have been shipping to Haiti.

We could have bought the whole damn country for less.

TeapseTic 09-04-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

I wouldn't mind seeing FARC wiped out or Chavez evicted...so what...? I am not in a position to determine what is best for the US of A...They were elected and selected, let them do it and if you do not agree, vote differently in the next elections.

I think I will post what is supposed to be the best bar joke so far...look in the Clown Bin

HB
Not what's best for the US....what's best for Haiti?

DurryVony 09-04-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

I wouldn't mind seeing FARC wiped out or Chavez evicted...so what...?
HB
They had a saying in wide practice before the invasion of Iraq. "Beware of trading in the devil you know for the one you dont."

DurryVony 09-04-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

I am sure the Haitians would agree that it is a small price to pay in exchange for the billions that American taxpayers have been shipping to Haiti.

We could have bought the whole damn country for less.
Or in the past 100 years of micromanaging the country you could have established an adequate and appropriate government that can/could/would respond to the needs of the people.

pIp83Uns 09-04-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

The Pentagon is using Haiti as a Training Ground for Afghanistan


OK Jumbo, I'm just trying to stir up some s***. While your at it, why don't you read up on some other issues in the world. Maybe you'll learn something.
Global research.
I still do not find the link to the original article, only the link to the Global research article, which I think you will admit is not the same thing.

Reading a secondary source that has an agenda is not at all enlightening. I would like to see the context in which the primary source was written, and the specifics they used to document their information.

Frjrbefd 09-04-2010 05:44 PM

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Or in the past 100 years of micromanaging the country you could have established an adequate and appropriate government that can/could/would respond to the needs of the people.
Apparently that only works in Japan and Germany.

DurryVony 09-04-2010 05:55 PM

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Apparently that only works in Japan and Germany.
But not in the Phillippines, VietNam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama, Dominican Republic , Jordan, Iran(then), Iraq(now), Taiwan, Kazakstan, Tajikstan and Czech(oSlovakia).
South Korea and Thailand are still a toss.

TeapseTic 09-04-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

I still do not find the link to the original article, only the link to the Global research article, which I think you will admit is not the same thing.

Reading a secondary source that has an agenda is not at all enlightening. I would like to see the context in which the primary source was written, and the specifics they used to document their information.
Why is it someone always has to question authentisity?? You asked for the link, here it is. Make your own mind up, as did I after reading. If you want the direct source, look at all the March issues of Stars and Stripes...it'll give you something to do, rather than question weather someones post is valid.
.....and it is the same thing, Global Research is quoting Stars and Stripes.....

Frjrbefd 09-04-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

But not in the Phillippines, VietNam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama, Dominican Republic , Jordan, Iran(then), Iraq(now), Taiwan, Kazakstan, Tajikstan and Czech(oSlovakia).
South Korea and Thailand are still a toss.
Yep, so now we stick to just sending money and training troops, except in the case of former world superpowers.

I don't think Haiti qualifies...

Frjrbefd 09-04-2010 06:00 PM

Hey wait a minute! Taiwan is doing fine! And I think Panama is kind of doing ok too!

Siffidiolla 09-04-2010 06:07 PM

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I agree with thr OP that this is being used as an opportunity to enhance their presence in the area and possibly to be used as a staging area for future campaigns in Colombia, Venezuela and points south.
limpiate la baba porfi. http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smilies/happy.gif

Amazing how many people criticize the US military wherever.

FYI bozos, I was in Haiti and they needed the US military, remember thousands of criminals were running free, raping, looting and killing.

There are only 2,400 US miltary now and our doing a fantastic job securing the peace for Hatians and thousands of foreign volunteers and missionaries.

Also, fyi thge US miliary's duty is to constantly train, whether that be Colombia, SC or Afghanistan.


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