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GrottereewNus 07-21-2012 04:37 AM

SOOOOOO,after 20 DAYS,my uncle finally had his surgery today and is recovering,20 days fellows,20 days with a femur fracture....

GutleNus 07-21-2012 04:44 AM

How is he, how did it go. Have they saved his leg, the ankle being exposed was more the concern after all this time.
wishing him well

GrottereewNus 07-21-2012 01:33 PM

The leg was saved,he just going through a fever now.I'm still amazed at the fact,that they didn't even suggest to ampute the leg after so long and going through fever.I will get more details today,I know it only lasted two hours in the OR,don't know if that's normal for the procedure.....?? Thanks.

MARMELADINA 07-21-2012 08:31 PM

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SOOOOOO,after 20 DAYS,my uncle finally had his surgery today and is recovering,20 days fellows,20 days with a femur fracture....
not to take away from your uncle;s pain and wait but i know that a lot of foreign doctors and missions have preempted a lot of the bone surgeons for work in Haiti.. NGOs pay more than the government .. which pays about 32000 a month... i think, around there

illilmicy 07-21-2012 11:09 PM

Wow!! is right. Glad to hear something was finally done. Maybe the docs really knew the best way to go? Sure seems very odd for most of us. Sure hope he's getting mega antibiotics with an IV. Fever is indeed worisome. Please let us us know how things progress. God Bless.

videolkif 07-22-2012 02:56 AM

The police here work under appalling conditions in many cases. It is hardly surprising so many are corrupt under the circumstances. I don't condone corruption at all, but I can understand it when they earn so little, work such anti-social hours, are dragged around the country away from their families and then are not taken care of when they need to be... I wonder how many gringos would be willing to perform their duties more efficiently in the sort of conditions they work under and with such limited resources...

Mowselelex 07-22-2012 10:59 AM

Unbelivable reading, im happy he didnt lost his leg- or his life.

ptmQqoxw 07-22-2012 03:19 PM

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The police here work under appalling conditions in many cases. It is hardly surprising so many are corrupt under the circumstances. I don't condone corruption at all, but I can understand it when they earn so little, work such anti-social hours, are dragged around the country away from their families and then are not taken care of when they need to be... I wonder how many gringos would be willing to perform their duties more efficiently in the sort of conditions they work under and with such limited resources...
Ummmmm, is there a group that goes around with pistols forcing Dominican men to become PN?
No, there is not.
Get another job.
There is no excuse for the corruption.
If someone told me "Nursing is full of night shifts, and some day shifts so we can confuse your sleep pattern and disrupt your personal life. You will be paid less than a living wage for sometimes more than 40 hours per week. You must work in the hot sun and buy your own water. Oh yeah, and when you get sick we will not give you the surgery that you need for more than 20 days", I would say "No, thank you"

NOBODY forces these men to become PN, so please........

SHALENA

gyjsdtuwr 07-22-2012 06:48 PM

Glad to hear that he got the treatment he needed and is on his way to recovery. Hope there are no lingering effects. Prayers for a speedy recovery.

GrottereewNus 07-23-2012 02:15 AM

With all due respect,no,there certainly isn't a group forcing people to join the police.What forces you is the will of fire.YES,THE WILL TO TRY TO CHANGE THINGS ON YOUR OWN.NOT EVERY COP IS CORRUPT SHALENA.The Dominican system and society force you to corrupt yourself.I'm sure it's a gradual change in your mental state.Imagine yourself,just a cabo en la policia nacional.Your superiors steal,people don't respect you.You going to school at nite,paying for it,but guess what? You don't know anybody,even though you are overqualified for the position,or you don't have a pretty face.You take the bus,they take the jeepeta,you live under a zinc roof,they have central AC.Either work the fields or get a few sets of uniform and a lowly but steady check.The answer is easy,I'm sure most would agree.










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Ummmmm, is there a group that goes around with pistols forcing Dominican men to become PN?
No, there is not.
Get another job.
There is no excuse for the corruption.
If someone told me "Nursing is full of night shifts, and some day shifts so we can confuse your sleep pattern and disrupt your personal life. You will be paid less than a living wage for sometimes more than 40 hours per week. You must work in the hot sun and buy your own water. Oh yeah, and when you get sick we will not give you the surgery that you need for more than 20 days", I would say "No, thank you"

NOBODY forces these men to become PN, so please........

SHALENA

GutleNus 07-23-2012 02:38 AM

I agree with both of you. I think the youth who sign up now these days sign up as thugs, knowing they are going to live a life of legalised crime. This was not always the case, although there has always been that corruption, the foot soldiers kept a foot on the ground, and it was kept slightly further up the food chain for the most part. Greed and the stakes got bigger somewhere and the benchmark dropped, so now the entire mob are as bent as they come. I can generally show respect for a decent slightly older PN who shows signs of just going about his life and business. But new generation PN I frinkin detest the bast ards, I wish all of them very nasty things.

ZZipZZipe 09-21-2012 08:21 AM

Very, very sad to hear about this. If you need a referral to a compassionate orthopod in the public system, I can call in a favor...

Be careful out there. The last thing you want here is to test the emergency services. This unfortunate situation underscores that.

GrottereewNus 09-21-2012 09:22 AM

Thanks much


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2000 dollars is just for the surgery, i mean. have him transfer to the private hospital, if possible. i hope he gets out of this ok.

GrottereewNus 09-21-2012 10:26 AM

Gracias Luis




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And you want to know why they are on the take so easily???

Jesus! This is a really sad case!!

Sorry to have to read this...

Best of luck to him and the family.

HB

GrottereewNus 09-21-2012 10:32 AM

Poor quality of emergency care in DR.
 
Approximately 12 days ago,my uncle was 20 minutes away from getting off his shift,the night shift,this particular day.He was summoned to go pick up and transport a prisoner to another location.He's a policia nacional teniente in his 20th something year of service.Usually he patrols around in a sub,but that day it was out of service,so they gave him and his subordinate one of those dirt bike looking moto.On San Isidro autopista,they decided to return to the precinct because the bike didn't have a working headlight.Picked up another moto,now back on San Isidro,a young man,pulls out of a Cabana,they hit head on.The subordinate got a lil scrapped off,but my uncle suffered a femur fracture and a compound fracture to one of his ankle(bone protuding out of the skin ).He was taking to Dario contreras,where they had no beds,later transfer to RADIO Patrulla hospital(suppossesly just for policias) Now you would think,femur fracture=emergency medicine,civil servant=let's take care of this guy.Not in Santo Domingo.Two days go by,no surgery.My mother speaks directly to the surgeon long distance from here.Surgeon states,that they have a Major with fractured skull that arrived prior to my uncle,and he's still waiting.More days go by.Now they claim,that they have to find specials insert screws before they perform surgery.After that,they have to wait,until the skin on his ankle heals some more before they operate on the femur.Today,they said that they can't perform the surgery because he's anemic,so now he needs a blood transfusion. The kid's father offered to pay for everything in retur for his boy not going to jail,so obviously money is not a problem,what gives?

Now,you would think,the institution(national police)would pay for everything.The insurance that he gets thru his job,is giving him the run around.We shouldn't compare but,had this been in NY,this is how it would have happenned.He would have been in an ambulance with emts and paramedic in 7 minutes,hospital would have been notified of a incoming patient and extent of injury.His mother would've been picked up by a state trooper and brought to the hospital and the police commish,would have showed his face at least for a few minutes.Maybe one day.......http://www.dr1.com/forums/images/smi...sappointed.gif

MARMELADINA 09-21-2012 10:58 AM

abreu runs about 100 us a day without tests and surgery

that bill is a scandal!!!!! call Nuria!! call Huchi!!

best of luck...

best surgeon at Abreu is Dr Dominio... for bones, that is

GrottereewNus 09-21-2012 11:14 AM

Thanks cobra,AlterEgo,but according to my mother,its a military hospital,so they only allow their own in,but she's still gonna call to be sure.Thanks all for your compassionate thoughts.I'm not saying that my uncle was a stand up member of the P.N. but believe it or not,there is actually good cops in the DR,that are honest and are everyday on the grind,putting their lives in danger for others,for a diminutive salary.When you drive by and see one of those guy in the moto,while you sleeping,that guy is working,while you have weekends and holidays off,he's working,but most of all,that guy,might be one of the few good ones left in DR,so don't look at all of them with same eye please.It's hard not to with the latest array of news.




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Very, very sad to hear about this. If you need a referral to a compassionate orthopod in the public system, I can call in a favor...

Be careful out there. The last thing you want here is to test the emergency services. This unfortunate situation underscores that.

GutleNus 09-21-2012 12:04 PM

That's not good, if they left his ankle unattended for days then there is a high chance infection gets into the bone, and once that happens it's goodbye leg. This is really sad, for someone with so many years under his belt he deserves better. I really hope through all this waiting he is being dosed with antibiotics, hell they could have fixed this in a couple of hours anywhere else. they normally open a femur break straight up to check for internal bleeding, I expect they know what they are doing but sounds like this guys future is being diced with.
i hope it comes good, and in time or his working days could be over.

GrottereewNus 09-21-2012 01:10 PM

A shame he can't be transferred



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abreu runs about 100 us a day without tests and surgery

that bill is a scandal!!!!! call Nuria!! call Huchi!!

best of luck...

best surgeon at Abreu is Dr Dominio... for bones, that is

wrewsTear 09-21-2012 04:43 PM

2000 dollars is just for the surgery, i mean. have him transfer to the private hospital, if possible. i hope he gets out of this ok.


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