[ZZipZZipe]

It's home training that makes the difference. If you raise her to understand that she's as valuable as any person of either gender and she is taught self respect, she will be more than prepared to handle the type of guy that you're talking about.

I've seen Women in the D.R. back a tiguere down with a look, never saying a word. They only prey on the weak minded.

Solid post.

[pprropeciaaa]

dv8, for sure my daugther will be looked by men, as all women are, around the world at any country. That's not the point. We are talking about hte fact that here there is a stronger harassment towards women than in many other countries. Being looked by men is not a problem even for fathers, but here there is more than that too often ...

ruben... it depends on where you raise them.. if you are going to raise them in Sosua, that is one thing,,, quite another in the Capital or Santiago, or even Bavaro or Jarabacoa.

I think that people do not travel enough around the country and get their impressions only from the sankie towns.... too bad.

[GutleNus]

It's home training that makes the difference. If you raise her to understand that she's as valuable as any person of either gender and she is taught self respect, she will be more than prepared to handle the type of guy that you're talking about.

I've seen Women in the D.R. back a tiguere down with a look, never saying a word. They only prey on the weak minded.

This is all true and dandy, but all the home training, education, self confidence and anything else I can give her does not change the way other boys/men look at her, consider her, disrespect her etc. why would a father put himself and his daughter through this if he didn't have to, if there is a better education, higher degree of respect elsewhere. I don't see why a father would do that, there is a high chance I'd end up in trouble somewhere down the line.

We can holiday in DR, my responsibility now is what is best for her, our needs now are second.

[Crilosajsamq]

This is all true and dandy, but all the home training, education, self confidence and anything else I can give her does not change the way other boys/men look at her, consider her, disrespect her etc. why would a father put himself and his daughter through this if he didn't have to, if there is a better education, higher degree of respect elsewhere. I don't see why a father would do that, there is a high chance I'd end up in trouble somewhere down the line.

We can holiday in DR, my responsibility now is what is best for her, our needs now are second.

I agree that you wish to give your kids (gender nonspecific) the best chance at a healthy childhood environment possible. I did. There's no way I'd have cosidered raising my kids where I grew up in NYC. All the nurturing in the World can't overcome some environmental considerations.

My point is this....do all you can do to give them the best that you and your wife have to offer as Parents and if you can afford a more desireable location to raise them then by all means do it but all your best efforts and all that nurturing will guarrantee nothing. It's like studying for a big test...it won't guarrantee passage but the failure to do so will guarrantee failure.

[ZX3URrBH]

As givadogahome said, just like me, my daugther having the most powerful ethical and moral behaviour, that will not change the behaviour many many men will have towards her unfortunately ....
there is NO SOLUTION to avoid that in the daily life here ...

[AdipexAdipex]

there are plenty of well-to-do girls here, brought up by rich and influential parents. do you think danilo medina's daughters ride on a stick of some poor bar tender from cienfuegos? please, don't give me that junk. you can create an environment where your girl will have nothing to do with chopo rats.
of course, you can still have all the money and influence and still come up with paris hilton but i would not blame her fall on dominican machos

[ZX3URrBH]

my god ....
Having self respect does not mean that she will never be harassed!!!
Having self respect will make her getting into less troubles, for sure!!!! lesss but not free harasment
But she will have to deal with those nasty, vomiting harassements I am used to see and heard from many men here ... it is a fact, period.
And no one tell me it is not true, because my wife is absolutely tired of those behaviours happening very very often ... ok??????
If Im telling this is because I know well what I am talking about ...
Cheers.

[AdipexAdipex]

ruben, take my sister in law: she grew here, went to good schools, she is a good christian and a specialist in her field. and did i mention she beats those dominican next top model uglies to the ground? her parents gave her the best background both when it comes to morale and education. but she is very level headed herself. is she being hit on by dominicans? yes and no. yes, because she is beautiful and she has many admirers. and no, because she never was of interest to dominican tigueres: she is smart, confident, rich and totally out of their league.

as far as being a sex object - give me a break, dude. do you know our own matilda calls me "tits" or "boobies"? because yes, this is, basically, the first thing (two things, really) people notice about me . do i care? i cannot be bothered. people look. i look. it means nothing. unless your daughter grows up to be some crook faced cow men will pay attention to her. in any country.

[QualityReachOut]

I'll go a little further and say that if you raise her right The DR is a better environment when it comes to that, because not only will she not go for the tiguere, but will learn how to deal with these guys (something very valuable in life for a woman IMO). Look at how Dominican guys whistle or "psssst" or BS women...The typical Dominican woman can handle this without any hesitation, but the typical foreign raised woman doesn't know what to do. I've seen it how they get angry, embarrassed, annoyed, etc...while the Dominican woman can remain cool as a cucumber under these situations and even BS them back if need be.

[ZX3URrBH]

dv8, for sure my daugther will be looked by men, as all women are, around the world at any country. That's not the point. We are talking about hte fact that here there is a stronger harassment towards women than in many other countries. Being looked by men is not a problem even for fathers, but here there is more than that too often ...

ruben, take my sister in law: she grew here, went to good schools, she is a good christian and a specialist in her field. and did i mention she beats those dominican next top model uglies to the ground? her parents gave her the best background both when it comes to morale and education. but she is very level headed herself. is she being hit on by dominicans? yes and no. yes, because she is beautiful and she has many admirers. and no, because she never was of interest to dominican tigueres: she is smart, confident, rich and totally out of their league.

as far as being a sex object - give me a break, dude. do you know our own matilda calls me "tits" or "boobies"? because yes, this is, basically, the first thing (two things, really) people notice about me . do i care? i cannot be bothered. people look. i look. it means nothing. unless your daughter grows up to be some crook faced cow men will pay attention to her. in any country.

[DoctorTentonyya]

So I got the conclusion that I dont wanna raise a girl in a country where men respect women that way.
Ok, lets go for your thoughts ....

You are 100% right. Now, where do you plan on moving?

[Crilosajsamq]

my god ....
Having self respect does not mean that she will never be harassed!!!
Having self respect will make her getting into less troubles, for sure!!!! lesss but not free harasment
But she will have to deal with those nasty, vomiting harassements I am used to see and heard from many men here ... it is a fact, period.
And no one tell me it is not true, because my wife is absolutely tired of those behaviours happening very very often ... ok??????
If Im telling this is because I know well what I am talking about ...
Cheers.

My God!!!

(?)

Self respect doesn't mean that Men will not try to harass her but it does give her the tools to fight it off. It happens in the D.R. and it happens in NYC and it happens in Mumbai and Nairobi and London, too. Believe me when I tell you that I also know what I'm talking about.

A well raised Woman will know how to shame a disrespectful Man with a look. Every Man born of Woman will recognize then he's crossed the wrong line when reminded.

If that doesn't work....there's always "call Daddy". We'll get the problem fixed.

[pprropeciaaa]

and i would agree though with the others... unless i was in a tight religious community established here... like the JWs or the Mormons, or one or the other branches of the Catholics, not a nebulous pastor,inc. but a real community of believers where you would have a culture of respect to support you.

otherwise... well.. if you did not come to live in the city

the daughter, of course, is the sure visa outta here for either the mom or the girl

[PypeMaypetasy]

Start with this when she is born

pen gun (.22 cal) - Edmonton- YouTube

End up with the video I posted AK-47 when she turns 13.

[ZX3URrBH]

It will depend on many facts, mostly work facts, but I assume that having my own family would be great to go back some day to my lovely hometown Barcelona.
Cheers.

You are 100% right. Now, where do you plan on moving?

[Avoireeideree]

I personally would rather have my son grow up here because he will learn to appreciate what it is to see poor people i also want him to go with his uncle intop the mountains herding cows and hard work to learn that he dpes not want to do that all his life and make something of himself!.Also compared to my country there is more opprtunity talent wise here for him to prosper really Dominicans are good in all sports and other activities.

[khjhkfggt]

Prayer.

Instilling them with a strong sense of values and self-worth.

A 12-gauge.

Any two of the above will be a good start, but all three will be the trifecta....

[GutleNus]

My God!!!

(?)

Self respect doesn't mean that Men will not try to harass her but it does give her the tools to fight it off. It happens in the D.R. and it happens in NYC and it happens in Mumbai and Nairobi and London, too.

There are areas in London and everywhere that it happens, and I wouldn't raise my daughter there either. A father doesn't want his daughter to have to fight anything off. Yes, in life she will have to, but there is such a thing as damage limitation, setting your sights high, living among those you wish to be associated with. We don't have so much control of all this in DR, simple really.
I think we all agree anyway, we only want what is best for our kids, and we all have different ideas.

[GutleNus]

it is the road through adolescent that is so tough here, Dred...

Yip, from the age of 10 till death!

[Crilosajsamq]

it is the road through adolescent that is so tough here, Dred...

Trust me when I tell you. That is not an easy road anywhere.


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