[CreativeSuiteDown]

Not a poll, really. I just want to know who among the tribe does, and why (or why not.) It's a lifelong question of mine, and I don't think I've brought it up here before, so here goes... I look forward to your responses.

[Garry Hovard]

As with many topics of which it is really hard to know from this side of the Veil, I choose to suspend my disbelief for lack of evidence for or against.

Anyone who has had any kind of shamanic experience or contact with the Spirit Realms has to agree that there is more to this existance than what we know by our five senses.

I do believe that an all-powerful Deity could very easily have set up this kind of system. Anyone who doesn't is limiting their veiw of the Divine, to their own peril.

Reincarnation would also help to explain a lot of the odd experiences people have with each other, that knowing that you have been together before, contrary to the facts of this life.

Blessings on your paths

[gernica]

Actually it was my inherent belief in reincarnation that helped push me out of christianity (well that and 3 1/2 years in seminary but that is another story...or twenty). The whole 'god works on mysterious ways' b.s. never really held water with me.

A simple comparison that I use: You're a dad. You decide to teach your kids to swim. So you dump them all in the ocean. They get one shot at finding land. But you dump some close to land, some on a boat, some so far from land they will never see it, some in the jaws of a shark. How do you decide who goes where? Just be a jerk and dump them randomly? A couple make it back, most drown, oh well. That's life.

Human life, with a one shot for heaven mentality, seems about like that to me.

Now we consider karma and reincarnation. Start swimming. Ok, sure you drowned a few times but your progress is saved, so you don't start back at the beginning every time. You do good, you get bumped ahead towards shore. You do bad, you get dunked. Your choice.

So if you seem to have all kinds of problems and other folks got it easy...there may be a reason for it. Sometimes I think I must have been Hitler in a prior life

Now the real trick is freeing yourself from karma altogether, get off this wheel of life, and go back to godhead. Good karma/bad karma, you still come back for more fun.

The swimming, the ocean, the beach, it's all illusion. Remove the illusory coverings of Maya and you will see that there is no separation from god. It is all illusion.

Some of us just take a whole lot more turns in this game to figure it out. Saying it is one thing, really believing it and figuring out to apply it to life...


But I'm too agnostic to believe in much.

[poulaMahmah]

I do believe in reincarnation always have and will,why....

This is a subject thats really hard to explain as to the why and how.
I am sure others can explain it much better the I.


I have had many flash backs from previous lives through my dreams.
For me its always just been a given,when there has been no other explanations for certain feelings,likes and dislikes.

I know in my heart of hearts this is my last run on earth so to speak.

[ddwayspd]

Okay. A Doubting Thomas here to respond to the question.

No, I do not believe in reincarnation as the word is commonly used. That is, I do not believe in the concept of many lives for one individual, personified 'soul'.

But, we all are basically energy. Energy never dies. When the brain dies our physical existance is finished. But where does this energy go? I don't know. It is still in the universe and it may, or may not, become a part of some other physical existance.

Were it to become a part of another human being then I suppose that one could say that this is reincarnation. But does this energy have recall of any other composition of physical existance? Again, I have no idea but I, personally, doubt it.

Peace & Love!

[MidwestMadman]

The following is the opinion of the author and in no way represents this station or any of its employees.


I have a hard time with the concept of reincarnation.
Though I do hear more senceable descriptions here at the tribe than outside.
I do not know a single person who was an Egyptian slave or a stable boy or any other lowly person, nor do I ever hear someone talking about their life as a cricket or a badger. They all seem to be of noble birth, you know an Egyptian princess, an Indian Maiden, one of the 3 Musketeers etc. Just once I would love to hear someone say they were the son/daughter of a pig farmer in Sussex in the 1300’s.
I feel you get one trip around the park and if you didn’t get it right you don’t get a Mulligan.
Again these are my private thoughts on the subject.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled program.

UncleMike

[Abaronos]

But, we all are basically energy. Energy never dies. When the brain dies our physical existance is finished. But where does this energy go? I don't know. It is still in the universe and it may, or may not, become a part of some other physical existance.

Peace & Love!

The energy must go somewhere. Why not into another spirit about to be born?

Of course, I don't really know what happens. However, I am open to the reincarnation theory.

Still, I don't usually say that I believe in reincarnation, but I do think I lean that way.

[johobuo]

Okay.
But, we all are basically energy. Energy never dies. When the brain dies our physical existance is finished. But where does this energy go? I don't know. It is still in the universe and it may, or may not, become a part of some other physical existance.

I feel we pass on to another plane of existence and our energy ( the soul or whatever it is that makes us unique) joins the energy of the universe. I don't

UncleMike

[tinamasak]

The energy must go somewhere. Why not into another spirit about to be born?

I can't answer your question. My knowledge is fixed in this physical existance. My beliefs (those rooted in my spiritual essence), however, can span time and space.

Peace & Love!

[Dvjkefdw]

The belief in reincarnation is aan essenatial doctrine in my spiritual tradition, the Sanatana Veda Dharama, together with the belief in a Supreme Reality (God), the immortality of the soul (life), and the Law of Karma.

Do I have proof for reincarnation? No! But I strongly believe in it.

One other thing... I have never believed that I have ever been an extaordinary person in any of my past lives. I believe that I have been someone similar to who I am now... just someone else who earns a living through hard work and woul like to find spiritual enlightenment.

Hermano Luis
Moriviví Hermitage

[beckercpa]

Hi Luis,

I figured you would be responding to this sooner or later.

... would like to find spiritual enlightenment.

Hermano Luis
Moriviví Hermitage

Well, from my personal ovservation I think you are doing very well in this regard.

Peace & Love!

[Glanteeignile]

Reincarnation is perhaps the central most important aspect of my belief system.
As the seasons of nature cycle, so will I. Birth, life, death, and rebirth are but a reflection of the cycles the Great Spirit, and our Mother Earth have been overseeing since the time the first life form formed with in the oceans.

Once I came to truly embrace this "truth" I have lost much of my fear of death, seeing it as a natural part of the great cycle of life..


In Service to the Spirit:

Ancient1

[lopushok]

Hi Ancient1,

Nice post and welcome to the Tribe.

Peace & Love!

[cut sifted ephedra sinica]

Do I believe in reincarnation?
Sure. Mostly because I can't imagine not existing. That and energy is not destroyed, just shuffled.
So what I am reincarnated as is totally up to question.
I mean I maybe reincarnated as part of a split second reaction in the core of a star....who knows. Or maybe reincarnation is the passing of your body into elements which feed fungi, plants and other animals and allow them to live on.....

[cheapphenonline]

I like that ocean metaphor! Yeah, I never got that you only get one chance thing either.

[Theateetetuig]

Not a poll, really. I just want to know who among the tribe does, and why (or why not.) It's a lifelong question of mine, and I don't think I've brought it up here before, so here goes... I look forward to your responses.

if one believes in karma, one must believe in reincarnation, according to hindu spiritual law anyway

I prefer to see it as the atoms in my body are the same atoms that have always existed, just in different forms, one can safely call atoms "that spiritual energy" in my opinion.

I like to think also of the millions of cells that make my body up, or anything for that matter, as individual living units all put together to make a whole unit, each of these cells, with the exception of red blood cells, can reproduce, digest and excrete, all the basic functions humans perform.

[Ferrotoral]

The belief in reincarnation is aan essenatial doctrine in my spiritual tradition, the Sanatana Veda Dharama, together with the belief in a Supreme Reality (God), the immortality of the soul (life), and the Law of Karma.

Do I have proof for reincarnation? No! But I strongly believe in it.

One other thing... I have never believed that I have ever been an extaordinary person in any of my past lives. I believe that I have been someone similar to who I am now... just someone else who earns a living through hard work and woul like to find spiritual enlightenment.

Hermano Luis
Moriviví Hermitage

nice post, belief is the key to everything

[Sydneyfonzi]

Madgael! I have missed you my dear brother.

I just had an epiphany the other day. I have some friends that are very orthodox Christian. They firmly believe that they come to Earth and then leave to go to Heaven, never coming back again. I belive in reincarnation so you would be suprised to hear me say that they are correct also.

I have really been engrossed in my spiritual understandings as often as I have time to ponder. I have had a near death experience so I can offer that as much as thoughts and lives are different throughout, so is death. With that realization, why would reincarnation and finding peace in a Heavenly home be the same, could both occur? I feel that the answer is yes.

Stick that under your tongue and chew.

[preachadaq]

The belief in reincarnation is aan essenatial doctrine in my spiritual tradition, the Sanatana Veda Dharama, together with the belief in a Supreme Reality (God), the immortality of the soul (life), and the Law of Karma.

Do I have proof for reincarnation? No! But I strongly believe in it.

One other thing... I have never believed that I have ever been an extraordinary person in any of my past lives. I believe that I have been someone similar to who I am now... just someone else who earns a living through hard work and woul like to find spiritual enlightenment.

Hermano Luis
Moriviví Hermitage

Thank you Luis!!!
I was trying to find the words to explain.

I, like you don't believe that I have ever been an extraordinary person in any of my past lives either.
Just a person trying to get lifes lessons right,so I dont have to keep coming back to do them over and over again.

[irridgita]

of course.....it is one of the oldest forms of belief......why else would we have to do and live as we do........
if it weren't a fact, we coulod all be just lumps of poo on a rock and serve no higher purpose ......
as it is, we are the stuff of G.d, every molecule, every breath, for a purpose.....to search for the All.......to realize our oneness with the All.
Rev'raven