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**JANALA** · 06-09-2006, 02:15 AM

Hi Coffeebeing,

I think also that Chuang Tzu was speaking to the following section of Lao Tzu:

Too Much Learning; Too Many Words
Much learning means frequent exhaustion;
That is not so good as holding on to the mean.
By many words is wit exhausted.
Rather, therefore, hold to the core.

Holding to the core meaning holding to one's inner essence (or spirituality). Words are only words. The idea of communications is to transfer thoughts and concepts. Once the thoughts and concepts are understood, the words can be forgotten. It is my understanding that the one who teaches without words is the one who teaches by example. Teaching by example requires very few, if any, words.

Also, there is much we can learn through intuition. Intuition does not need words. Yes, we do use words in our mind in order to more fully understand the intuitive inspirations but they too, once the inspiration is fully understood, can be forgotten.

Only when we wish to share these inspirations do we again need words. But again, the words will soon be forgotten but the inspiration may well live forever.

Peace & Love!

**LarryG1978** · 07-14-2006, 04:13 PM

A quote from Chuang-Tsu has been bouncing around in my bean today:

The purpose of a fishtrap is to catch fish, and when the fish are caught, the trap is forgotten.

The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits. When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten.

The purpose of words is to convey ideas. When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten.

Where can I find a man who has forgotten words? He is the one I would like meet.

**EvaQWmrm** · 07-14-2006, 05:14 PM

Wow...you have some heavy stuff bouncin' 'round in there!!!

**ValintinoV** · 07-14-2006, 06:45 PM

Yikes!..I guess I do...LOL

Wow...you have some heavy stuff bouncin' 'round in there!!!

**TEFSADDERFISA** · 07-15-2006, 12:58 PM

What happens if your a women

For the thought provoking thought

**venediene** · 07-15-2006, 04:05 PM

(I mean this in a humorous way) A woman without words?..Marry her!

What happens if your a women

For the thought provoking thought

**Storwaytozy** · 07-15-2006, 05:26 PM

(I mean this in a humorous way) A woman without words?..Marry her!

HEY!!!

**Draftcasino.com** · 07-15-2006, 05:29 PM

LOL..I'd be bored silly.....

HEY!!!

**zdoppiklonikaa** · 07-15-2006, 05:30 PM

Heck...from what I've seen you're already half way there anyway...Silly man!!!

Do you EVER sleep???

**Gymnfacymoota** · 07-15-2006, 05:31 PM

Yep...but meditation reduces my need for it....I did get 6 hours tho..

Heck...from what I've seen you're already half way there anyway...Silly man!!!

Do you EVER sleep???

**EnvellFen** · 07-15-2006, 05:34 PM

Cool...and you're ahead on the packing...you'll be able to spend the weekend with us!!!

**blogforloversxx** · 07-15-2006, 05:37 PM

On and off....got a Group Meditation thingy this afternoon..a birthday dinner....then a Healing Lights meditation at night.....Than...Sunday Services Sunday morning...My 2nd Degree Ritual after that...then we're going to a huge herb farm for healing energies after that..

Cool...and you're ahead on the packing...you'll be able to spend the weekend with us!!!

**makemoneyonli** · 07-15-2006, 05:43 PM

And I'm thrilled that I'm goin' for a walk!!! Jeez!!!

**Janny2006** · 07-15-2006, 05:44 PM

LOL..I'm gonna' do that in a little while by the ocean..

And I'm thrilled that I'm goin' for a walk!!! Jeez!!!

**HRCPda7R** · 07-15-2006, 05:49 PM

Um...it's exceedingly humid here...is that anything like an ocean???

**ycMC0PLg** · 07-15-2006, 05:51 PM

Yeah..humid here too. But the breeze by the ocean is kinda' nice. ..

Um...it's exceedingly humid here...is that anything like an ocean???

**XGoFivk7** · 07-15-2006, 05:57 PM

Hmm...I kind of miss the ocean...

Um...we have taken this off topic and it's my fault...I'm sorry...

**citicroego** · 07-15-2006, 05:59 PM

Hey..it's my topic and my birthday.....write away!!!...LOL

Hmm...I kind of miss the ocean...

Um...we have taken this off topic and it's my fault...I'm sorry...

**RIjdrVs3** · 07-16-2006, 01:49 PM

(I mean this in a humorous way) A woman without words?..Marry her!

**pMJWFoAWD** · 07-16-2006, 01:51 PM

Hey..it's my topic and my birthday.....write away!!!...LOL

Excellent answer,

browine points for you

06-09-2006, 02:15 AM	#1
JANALA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	Hi Coffeebeing, I think also that Chuang Tzu was speaking to the following section of Lao Tzu: Too Much Learning; Too Many Words Much learning means frequent exhaustion; That is not so good as holding on to the mean. By many words is wit exhausted. Rather, therefore, hold to the core. Holding to the core meaning holding to one's inner essence (or spirituality). Words are only words. The idea of communications is to transfer thoughts and concepts. Once the thoughts and concepts are understood, the words can be forgotten. It is my understanding that the one who teaches without words is the one who teaches by example. Teaching by example requires very few, if any, words. Also, there is much we can learn through intuition. Intuition does not need words. Yes, we do use words in our mind in order to more fully understand the intuitive inspirations but they too, once the inspiration is fully understood, can be forgotten. Only when we wish to share these inspirations do we again need words. But again, the words will soon be forgotten but the inspiration may well live forever. Peace & Love! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-14-2006, 04:13 PM	#2
LarryG1978 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	Words A quote from Chuang-Tsu has been bouncing around in my bean today: The purpose of a fishtrap is to catch fish, and when the fish are caught, the trap is forgotten. The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits. When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten. The purpose of words is to convey ideas. When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words? He is the one I would like meet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-14-2006, 05:14 PM	#3
EvaQWmrm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	Wow...you have some heavy stuff bouncin' 'round in there!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-14-2006, 06:45 PM	#4
ValintinoV Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 335 Senior Member	Yikes!..I guess I do...LOL Wow...you have some heavy stuff bouncin' 'round in there!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 12:58 PM	#5
TEFSADDERFISA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	What happens if your a women For the thought provoking thought Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 04:05 PM	#6
venediene Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	(I mean this in a humorous way) A woman without words?..Marry her! What happens if your a women For the thought provoking thought Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:26 PM	#7
Storwaytozy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	(I mean this in a humorous way) A woman without words?..Marry her! HEY!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:29 PM	#8
Draftcasino.com Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 353 Senior Member	LOL..I'd be bored silly..... HEY!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:30 PM	#9
zdoppiklonikaa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	Heck...from what I've seen you're already half way there anyway...Silly man!!! Do you EVER sleep??? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:31 PM	#10
Gymnfacymoota Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	Yep...but meditation reduces my need for it....I did get 6 hours tho.. Heck...from what I've seen you're already half way there anyway...Silly man!!! Do you EVER sleep??? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:34 PM	#11
EnvellFen Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	Cool...and you're ahead on the packing...you'll be able to spend the weekend with us!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:37 PM	#12
blogforloversxx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 350 Senior Member	On and off....got a Group Meditation thingy this afternoon..a birthday dinner....then a Healing Lights meditation at night.....Than...Sunday Services Sunday morning...My 2nd Degree Ritual after that...then we're going to a huge herb farm for healing energies after that.. Cool...and you're ahead on the packing...you'll be able to spend the weekend with us!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:43 PM	#13
makemoneyonli Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	And I'm thrilled that I'm goin' for a walk!!! Jeez!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:44 PM	#14
Janny2006 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	LOL..I'm gonna' do that in a little while by the ocean.. And I'm thrilled that I'm goin' for a walk!!! Jeez!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:49 PM	#15
HRCPda7R Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 315 Senior Member	Um...it's exceedingly humid here...is that anything like an ocean??? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:51 PM	#16
ycMC0PLg Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	Yeah..humid here too. But the breeze by the ocean is kinda' nice. .. Um...it's exceedingly humid here...is that anything like an ocean??? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:57 PM	#17
XGoFivk7 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	Hmm...I kind of miss the ocean... Um...we have taken this off topic and it's my fault...I'm sorry... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-15-2006, 05:59 PM	#18
citicroego Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 405 Senior Member	Hey..it's my topic and my birthday.....write away!!!...LOL Hmm...I kind of miss the ocean... Um...we have taken this off topic and it's my fault...I'm sorry... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-16-2006, 01:49 PM	#19
RIjdrVs3 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 522 Senior Member	(I mean this in a humorous way) A woman without words?..Marry her! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-16-2006, 01:51 PM	#20
pMJWFoAWD Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	Hey..it's my topic and my birthday.....write away!!!...LOL Excellent answer, browine points for you Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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