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Old 07-25-2012, 09:18 PM   #1
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:21 PM   #2
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Wth???
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:13 PM   #3
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Plastic Surgery? Looks like the same man to me except for having a nose job. Eyebrows, hairline, shape of mouth, adams apple, all look the same.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:23 PM   #4
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http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_Ja...alse_flag.html

Get big rolls of tin foil out because the author jumps to conclusions without any real thought(for example the author doesn't think about Credit Cards as a method of funding the $20,000 in guns and ammo), but interesting none the less.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:28 PM   #5
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The lips are different.
When I first noticed the first pic of his
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:47 PM   #6
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Hard to say. He is smirking in one pic and solemn in the mug shot. So that can change the look of the mouth. Maybe the guy had his lips injected as well? The left pic does appear to look like a drawing but it could just be bad contrast. I've seen several comments to that effect when the pic was first released.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:51 PM   #7
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My number one rule is Question Authority and second is to question their answers.

A full time post-graduate student has so much extra money he can purchase all this firepower? As well as all the home made explosive devices/gear,etc.

Take note the shows him in an orange jumper.when he made the court appearance his jail garb was a burgundy color.....
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:20 PM   #8
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My number one rule is Question Authority and second is to question their answers.

A full time post-graduate student has so much extra money he can purchase all this firepower? As well as all the home made explosive devices/gear,etc.

Take note the shows him in an orange jumper.when he made the court appearance his jail garb was a burgundy color.....
That is the jist of the article I quoted. He could have the credit card limits to purchase that much. Deadmen don't care what bills they leave behind. But it still doesn't explain how he got the know how to build the bombs and fire the weapons when no one had ever seen such behavior from him. And yes you can google a lot of that. I'm not in the firm Conspiracy camp on this but it is interesting.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:34 PM   #9
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Angle of the camera explains the nose.

Broke graduate students aren't always broke. This guy had a grant. I had some grants in grad school and could have bought a lot of crap with them, but I had to pay for school, but it still was my choice how to spend the money, the checks came to me.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:57 PM   #10
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Take note the shows him in an orange jumper.when he made the court appearance his jail garb was a burgundy color.....
And he's wearing a white t-shirt under his burgandy court jumper and not wearing a t-shirt under his organge mug jumper. And he's wearing an orange t-shirt for his college ID mug. I'm at a loss trying to figure out how wearing different cloths on different days in different locales fits into any type of conspiracy scenario.
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:03 PM   #11
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And he's wearing a white t-shirt under his burgandy court jumper and not wearing a t-shirt under his organge mug jumper. And he's wearing an orange t-shirt for his college ID mug. I'm at a loss trying to figure out how wearing different cloths on different days in different locales fits into any type of conspiracy scenario.
Just asking questions-t-shirts are not standard jail house issue...and in most jails-they only issue two types of garb -one for "normal" inmates and the other type for trustees..and where did the orginal ID pic come from?-it certainly looks computer generated to me..........?
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:26 PM   #12
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Just asking questions-t-shirts are not standard jail house issue...and in most jails-they only issue two types of garb -one for "normal" inmates and the other type for trustees..and where did the orginal ID pic come from?-it certainly looks computer generated to me..........?
I'm guessing the orig college ID mug is something the news media dug up to get on the air asap since the Aurora PD stated they didn't know when they would release his booking mug shot. As far as looking computer generated - my guess is that a lot of quality was lost in reproduction/editing for distribution; and college, corporate & driver's license photo ID's are pretty crappy quality-wise to begin with. Google "James Holmes" and select images - you'll see some images of the same ID that don't look computered generated.

Re the different jail garb - I don't work for any judicial system so I'm best guessing here, but it's seems reasonable that different levels of detainees have different jumpers. When he was booked and his mug taken, he could have been a city/county detainee at that time and then upgraded to a federal detainee by the time he had to make his first court appearance.


ETA: just finished reading up a little on the meaning of different colors for detainee jumpers. The basic gist is that every detention facility is different and uses different colors to denote different things. In one facility an orange jumpsuit may denote a detainee who has already been sentenced (or not sentenced), in another facility it's worn only by detainees who are in transit or in public, in another it means he's high risk or high threat.
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:40 PM   #13
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I'm guessing the orig college ID mug is something the news media dug up to get on the air asap since the Aurora PD stated they didn't know when they would release his booking mug shot. As far as looking computer generated - my guess is that a lot of quality was lost in reproduction/editing for distribution; and college, corporate & driver's license photo ID's are pretty crappy quality-wise to begin with. Google "James Holmes" and select images - you'll see some images of the same ID that don't look computered generated.

Re the different jail garb - I don't work for any judicial system so I'm best guessing here, but it's seems reasonable that different levels of detainees have different jumpers. When he was booked and his mug taken, he could have been a city/county detainee at that time and then upgraded to a federal detainee by the time he had to make his first court appearance.
If that were true-his plea court appearance would have been by a federal judge.
And you are right in some respects-the jail garb he was wearing could also denote inmates making a court appearance-for security reasons....

Another thing-he was dressed in swat gear with a gas mask-just how many people could actually point him out as the shooter>?
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:52 PM   #14
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My number one rule is Question Authority and second is to question their answers.
Got any questions for Obama and his administration? Satisfied with all of their answers?
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:02 PM   #15
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Got any questions for Obama and his administration? Satisfied with all of their answers?
Sure I do-but this thread is not about the current President.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:03 PM   #16
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If that were true-his plea court appearance would have been by a federal judge.
And you are right in some respects-the jail garb he was wearing could also denote inmates making a court appearance-for security reasons....

Another thing-he was dressed in swat gear with a gas mask-just how many people could actually point him out as the shooter>?
Re federal judge: have no idea as I grew weary of the 24/7 coverage and only tune in when I think there's actually something new being reported.

Re different garb for court security reasons: good possibility (see note added to post above)

Re id'ing shooter: I doubt anyone could point him out as the shooter. It's a good guess that the best eye-witness id will be from the person who saw him leave under the pretense of making/taking a cell phone call. Combine that with the police who can id him as being the one they apprehended at his vehicle w/ the guns & gear in his possession immediately after the shooting, ballistics evidence that will probably prove the guns in his possession at the time of apprehension are the same ones used in the shooting, and a myriad of other evidence that will be gleaned during the investigation, and it will probably add up to a very convincing case.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:05 PM   #17
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Sure I do-
Believe it when I see it.

So if this is a conspiracy, who's behind it and why?
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:08 PM   #18
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Believe it when I see it.

So if this is a conspiracy, who's behind it and why?
Like I mentioned before-just asking questions here....

believe what when you see it?
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