[EzequielTMann]

Put on your tinfoil hats ladies and gentleman and prepare for a ride!

Earthquake Virginia USA 8/23/11
2011-08-23 17:51:04.0 38.00 N 77.98 W 5 5.8 VIRGINIA

All natural earthquakes have a p-wave or primary wave that precedes the main earthquake event. "The name P-wave stands either for primary wave, as it has the highest velocity and is therefore the first to be recorded; or pressure wave,[1] as it is formed from alternating compressions and rarefactions."

Here's a few seismographs of previous earthquakes in the U.S.
Alaska: http://www.geosci.ipfw.edu/observe/e.../fullQuake.gif
Illinois: http://media.trb.com/media/photo/201...0-11053446.jpg
Illinois: http://www.news.wisc.edu/story_image...inoisQuake.gif

Underground nuclear explosions do not produce a P-wave.
Here's a seismograph of North Korea's nuclear test:
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/1...eismo_zoom.jpg

Now here are seismographs of the Virgina quake:
http://www2.nbc17.com/mgmedia/image/...2/seismograph/
http://www.post-gazette.com/images5/...racted_500.png
http://www2.tricities.com/mgmedia/im...h-seismograph/

Where is the p-wave?

So I was thinking, well Virginia suffered 6 aftershocks last night and I don't know how many today. Can underground nuclear explosions cause aftershocks in a manner consistent with earthquakes? Answer: Yes, they can Virginia.

Aftershocks of the Benham nuclear explosion
Quote

R. M. HAMILTON and J. H. HEALY

NATIONAL CENTER FOR EARTHQUAKE RESEARCH U. S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, MENLO PARK, CALIFORNIA 94025

Abstract

The BENHAM nuclear explosion, a 1.1 megaton test 1.4 km beneath Pahute Mesa at the Nevada Test Site, initiated a sequence of earthquakes lasting several months. The epicenters of these shocks were located within 13 km of ground zero in several linear zones that parallel the regional fault trends. Focal depths range from near surface to 6 km. The earthquakes are not located in the zone of the major ground breakage. The earthquake distribution and fault plane solutions together indicate that both right-lateral strike-slip fault movement and dip-slip fault movement occurred. The explosion apparently caused the release of natural tectonic strain.



Where is the p-wave? ???

This is a post from another forum that y'all can't access so a link wouldn't do any good.

[Saispapedlimi]

This is a post from another forum that y'all can't access so a link wouldn't do any good. Why not? The link would work once you joined. I'm curious as to which forum this is on. I'm sure BFFT is lurking out there wanting the same info(that or he already on that forum...he.he..)

My guess is that not all areas of the earth are geologically conducive to producing P-Waves so the argument put forth that "all earthquakes" do is bull crap. Any geologists want to confirm this or explain why certain formations don't produce P-Waves? Or explain why my guess is wrong?

And where the hell would they test a nuc on the east coast. Little densely populated for such things. They test them out in Nevada for good reason because if some thing does go wrong no one will be hurt by it.

[Karpattaisp]

If Bush brung down the WTC, then why can't Obama cause an earfquake?

Makes perfect sense to me!

[tLO0hFNy]

Zoo mystery: How did apes and birds know quake was coming?

By Joel Achenbach, Published: August 24

Her name is Iris, and with her straight, elegant, red-orange hair she is beyond dispute the prettiest orangutan at the National Zoo. She’s calm, quiet, unflappable. “Iris lives the life of a queen,” says great-ape keeper Amanda Bania.

On Tuesday afternoon, the queen lost her cool.

It happened a little before 2 p.m. Primate keeper K.C. Braesch was standing just a few feet away when Iris emitted a loud, guttural cry, known to scientists as belch-vocalizing. Iris then scrambled to the top of her enclosure.

Braesch stepped back and scanned the enclosure to see what might have agitated the ape. Was it Kiko, the male? Although generally a lump, Kiko can turn into a hothead and throw things. But no, Kiko was lounging.

Then — all this had happened within about five seconds — Braesch felt the earthquake.

“Animals seem to know,” she said Wednesday. “You always hear it anecdotally, but this is the first time I’ve seen it.”

Orangutans, gorillas, flamingos and red-ruffed lemurs acted strangely before humans detected the historic magnitude-5.8 earthquake. Now the question hovering over the zoo is: What did the animals know, and when did they know it?

Therein lies a scientific mystery, one in which hard facts and solid observations are entangled with lore and legend. There has been talk over the years about mysterious electromagnetic fields generated by rupturing faults. There has been speculation about sounds inaudible to humans, and subtle tilting in rock formations, and the release of vapors that people can’t smell.

But there also may be less to the mystery than meets the eye, with Tuesday’s zoo weirdness merely serving as a reminder that many wild animals are paying close attention to nature while humans are doing whatever it is that humans do.

The zoo documented a broad range of animal behavior before, during and after the tremor that began in central Virginia and shook much of the eastern United States. For example, a gorilla, Mandara, shrieked and grabbed her baby, Kibibi, racing to the top of a climbing structure just seconds before the ground began to shake dramatically. Two other apes — an orangutan, Kyle, and a gorilla, Kojo — already had dropped their food and skedaddled to higher turf.

The 64 flamingos seemed to sense the tumult a number of seconds in advance as well, clustering together in a nervous huddle before the quake hit. One of the zoo’s elephants made a low-pitched noise as if to communicate with two other elephants.

And red-ruffed lemurs emitted an alarm cry a full 15 minutes before the temblor, the zoo said.

During the quake, the zoo grounds were filled with howls and cries. The snakes, normally inert in the middle of the day, writhed and slithered. Beavers stood on their hind legs and then jumped into a pond. Murphy the Komodo dragon ran for cover. Lions resting outside suddenly stood up and stared at their building as the walls shook.

Damai, a Sumatran tiger, leaped as if startled but quickly settled down. Some animals remained agitated for the rest of the day, wouldn’t eat and didn’t go to sleep on their usual schedule.

“They’re more sensitive to the environment than we are,” said Brandie Smith, senior curator for mammals. “I’m not surprised at all that they’re able to intuit that these things are going on. That’s how they survive.”

Don Moore, associate director of animal care, said: “Elephants, we know from experimental studies, have an infrasonic ability. They can hear sounds underneath the level of sounds we can hear.”

The belief that strange animal behavior is a precursor to earthquakes goes back to antiquity. A recent scientific study suggested that toads fled to higher ground days before the 2009 earthquake in L’Aquila, Italy. In the most famous case of modern times, snakes and frogs emerged from their holes in 1975 in the dead of winter several weeks before a magnitude-7.3 earthquake in Haicheng, China (the odd animal behavior helped persuade officials to evacuate the city just before the tremor).

But scientists have struggled to convert anecdotal evidence into testable hypotheses and robust conclusions that can be published in peer-reviewed journals. Even the Haicheng case is squishy, because there were numerous foreshocks that may have rattled the snakes and inspired the public officials to take action.

Susan Hough, a U.S. Geological Survey seismologist who has researched earthquake predictions, said the simplest explanation for what happened at the zoo on Tuesday involves what scientists call the P wave.

An earthquake generates two types of seismic waves. The first is the relatively weak, fast-moving P wave, or primary wave. Then comes the more powerful S wave, or secondary wave, which lumbers along at a leisurely pace and heaves the ground up and down.

A back-of-the-envelope calculation by Hough suggests that the first P waves would have reached Washington about 15 seconds before the S waves. That may explain a lot: Iris and the other animals may have been responding to the P waves before humans noticed the ground shaking.

That leaves the mystery of the red-ruffed lemurs. They began hollering about 15 minutes — not seconds — before the earthquake. But that could be a coincidence, an outcry unrelated to the temblor. Hindsight can be misleading, as selective memory creates illusions of cause and effect.

All this remains an unresolved issue, and the possibility that animals are sensitive to terrestrial phenomena not discovered by humans can’t be ruled out.

As Hough put it, “There’s more going on in the Earth than we understand.”