[iklostardinn]

http://fascistsoup.com/2010/03/24/wi...and-civilians/

WikiLeaks – Video Of US Shooting Journalists And Civilians

WikiLeaks has promised to reveal a Pentagon murder cover-up at the US National Press Club on April 5. Although, very little information is available about the nature of the information available to WikiLeaks, it is definitely sensitive enough to prompt the US government into action.

A flurry of recent updates on the official WikiLeaks Twitter account suggests that they are currently under an aggressive US and Icelandic surveillance operation. Here are the recent tweets by WikiLeaks in chronological order:

* WikiLeaks is currently under an aggressive US and Icelandic surveillance operation. Following/photographing/filming/detaining.
* If anything happens to us, you know why: it is our Apr 5 film. And you know who is responsible.
* Two under State Dep diplomatic cover followed our editor from Iceland to http://skup.no on Thursday.
* One related person was detained for 22 hours. Computer’s seized.That’s http://www.skup.no
* We know our possession of the decrypted airstrike video is now being discussed at the highest levels of US command.
* If you know more about the operations against us, contact https://secure.wikileaks.org/
* We have been shown secret photos of our production meetings and been asked specific questions during detention related to the airstrike.
* We have airline records of the State Dep/CIA tails. Don’t think you can get away with it. You cannot. This is WikiLeaks.

In the past, WikiLeaks has played a pivotal role in exposing wrongdoing. It has managed to remain true to its principle of only publishing documents of political, diplomatic, historical or ethical interest. Over the years, it has managed to gain both respect and reputation for making a positive impact.

At the moment, the big question is, did WikiLeaks byte off more than it can chew? Wikileaks is a fairly reputable source in this arena. I am interested to see how this played out.

As Iceland crumbled, US banks looted the coffers. JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, primarily (if you are interested, i have a document that implicates them in complicity with bringing down Iceland).

If true, add it to the other illegal acts committed by Obama (selling political favors, Geithners looting of TARP for his and Obamas friends, etc).

If anyone can debunk this, please do. But not using opinions...i don't buy opinions on this matter (even though your opinions are always welcome).

[exsmoker]

I read a lot of statements but found no "video of reporters being shot", is this one of those "I've got a secret" games, going around in a circle??

[emorbimefed]

I read a lot of statements but found no "video of reporters being shot", is this one of those "I've got a secret" games, going around in a circle??

From what i understand, Wikileaks is only telling this story right now because of a fear for their lives. They claim to have proof that Uncle Sam has followed them and tried to intimidate them and threaten them.

The video release happens on April 5.

[HornyMolly]

Why wait? If the video is that smoking gun then the faster they get it out the safer they are. Horses>unlocked stable>etc.

[skupaemauto]

Why wait? If the video is that smoking gun then the faster they get it out the safer they are. Horses>unlocked stable>etc.

i know. my BS detector is going off, too.

The only thing is....the reputation of Wikileaks is pretty solid. They are known for having what they say they have.

a few weeks ago they sent out a request for help cracking the encryption on a video. now they have this. who knows.

it will be interesting to watch play out. like i said, two banks deeply involved in TARP are documented as being deeply involved in the whole Iceland bank collapse.

[theonsushv]

The video release happens on April 5.

[boltondd]

Here is my take.

There is stuff going on NOW that was started by someone other than the president DECADES ago & either they learn about it when we do or they cannot do a thing about it until it is exposed to the public or they wind up like Kennedy. (please lets not start this debate here for BFFT's sake.)

Now if someone can prove a president or someone working directly for him signed off on a black op type mission then he gets what he deserves.

But I fully believe there is a "plausible denial" factor in this government & every other government in the world.

[JohnfAclambrJA]

Yep there is definitely a get it done, but I don't want to know how you do it feel to many such reports.

[O25YtQnn]

yeah, that is what i am saying about my "BS" meter.

[vaalmerruutel]

I dont know...seems to me there are quite a few in the media that could stand to be shot

[Seesspoxy]

I dont know...seems to me there are quite a few in the media that could stand to be shot

If only we could get them aimed at Olbermann, huh?

today is the 5th. time for wikileaks to put up.

[gunhijala]

If only we could get them aimed at Olbermann, huh?

today is the 5th. time for wikileaks to put up.

here we go....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPr...ature=youtu.be

[CorpoRasion]

here we go....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPr...ature=youtu.be

Damn.

Watch the video. I am interested to hear what anyone has to say.

[Alexeric]

Damn.

Watch the video. I am interested to hear what anyone has to say.

Tough Luck!!

Stay outta the middle of the action if ya' don't wanna be a target.

I still think that the MSM reporter that filmed our troops being shot by enemy snipers should have been executed for treason.

[Lhtfajba]

Wikileaks is a fairly reputable source in this arena. I am interested to see how this played out.

Damn.

Watch the video. I am interested to hear what anyone has to say.

Now they can have a reputation for putting out a biased hatchet job. Please notice that at 4:47, according to Wiki's notations it's Saaed that's on his cellphone at the time of the assault. Then notice at 16:19 that it was Namir (Noor-Eldeen) who was talking on the phone to one of his colleagues when the assault started. So much for accuracy.

I also noticed that Wiki didn't bother to notate at least 2 individuals who were definately carrying AK-47's (one was in the stripped shirt who 1st came on camera at 3:12 and you can see him slinging the AK-47 around at 3:30; the other was wearing a solid shirt standing right next to stripped shirt). Nor did Wiki bother to notate the individual with the RPG that was peeking around the corner of the building trying to set up his shot. So much for "fair and balanced".

In addition, since I never could see a back shot of them to see was was attached to their shoulder straps, I couldn't tell if Saaed and Namir were carrying cameras or something else. Even if they were carrying cameras instead of guns, I guess they picked the wrong day to be hanging w/ the terrorists. Duh!

It's also common knowledge that the terrorists will pick up their own to try and make it look like civilians were attacked without cause. As for the kids - not only do they take them along on their terroristic activities, they also use them as suicide bombers.

[kiosokkn]

Was that an RPG, or was it a camera? I saw nothing even remotely like an RPG. What time in the video did you see it?

Re: the AK's...i, too, thought that i saw AK's:



But, are you sure it is an AK, and not a camera stand? He does stick the end of it in the ground and leans on it....not the way you would expect someone to treat a weapon.

8 people dead, 2 of them journalists....damn well BETTER make sure you know what you are shooting at.

This is less criticism of the military for me, and more criticism of how stupid we can be when trying to avoid PR catastrophe's.

The "body" that was being picked up, it looked like they were gathering up the injured reporter. Of course, it would explain why kids were in the van, if that is so: they weren't terrorists, and were going about their normal daily routine when they had to respond to an emergency that happened unexpectedly.

Another reporter details how, several minutes later, he and some journalists were congregating in an area nearby, and they opened fire on them as well. How do we know that the "insurgents" dying in the videos are actually identified appropriately?

The lack of a critical eye has allowed our nation to be sold down the river.

[thierabess]

Tough Luck!!

Stay outta the middle of the action if ya' don't wanna be a target.

I still think that the MSM reporter that filmed our troops being shot by enemy snipers should have been executed for treason.

Yeah, heaven forbid that people try to carry on a normal life in their country.

We should just tell them that LogiQ feels that "normal" is suspended.

[SergeyMaikov]

Another question...are we ruling out any possibility that any men with guns could have been a security crew hired by Reuters?

[sposicke]

Was that an RPG, or was it a camera? I saw nothing even remotely like an RPG. What time in the video did you see it?

Re: the AK's...i, too, thought that i saw AK's:



But, are you sure it is an AK, and not a camera stand? He does stick the end of it in the ground and leans on it....not the way you would expect someone to treat a weapon.

8 people dead, 2 of them journalists....damn well BETTER make sure you know what you are shooting at.

This is less criticism of the military for me, and more criticism of how stupid we can be when trying to avoid PR catastrophe's.

The "body" that was being picked up, it looked like they were gathering up the injured reporter. Of course, it would explain why kids were in the van, if that is so: they weren't terrorists, and were going about their normal daily routine when they had to respond to an emergency that happened unexpectedly.

Another reporter details how, several minutes later, he and some journalists were congregating in an area nearby, and they opened fire on them as well. How do we know that the "insurgents" dying in the videos are actually identified appropriately?

The lack of a critical eye has allowed our nation to be sold down the river.

I was looking at it in full screen (pausing and playing) and it sure looked like two rifles at 3:30. I just tried to view it again, but it's blocked. If I get on another computer tonight, I'll look again.

Re leaning on a possible camera stand: I didn't see where either stripped shirt or solid shirt leaned on anything and I can't see either of them doing it in the snip you provided. If I get to watch the entire video again in full screen, I'll see if I can spot what you're talking about. In addition, I've seen hunters plug their barrels with mud more than once, so it sure wouldn't surprise me to see a terrorist mistreat their weapon.

As far as whether it was an RPG or a camera, why would a cameraman be peeking around the corner of a building trying to take a picture of a helicopter? If it was a camera and he had nothing to hide, then why was he hiding instead of standing out in the open trying to get a clear picture?

I don't see how you can deduce the people in the van weren't terrorists trying to "clean up" just b/c they had kids in the van.

No, the "other" journalists weren't congregating in and fired upon in a nearby area. They were nearby when the assault took place, went to the assault area within a few minutes after it happened and were then supposedly fired on in the same way the van was. But since there's no video showing those journalists being fired upon, it still remains unproven that it happened.

[Plokiikmol]

Another question...are we ruling out any possibility that any men with guns could have been a security crew hired by Reuters?

A security crew would have been surrounding their client and escorting them from one place to another; not standing in the middle of a street waiting for their client to walk up and join them.